Suffering, Seeds, and the Long Game – A Conversation with Ben Part 2 (Video)

What if the breakthrough you’re praying for requires patience—and maybe even suffering? In Part 2 of this conversation, Joe and Ben dive into the power of planting seeds and playing the long game in faith. Ben reflects on how a simple, unintentional comment about Bible study became a seed in his own life—and how that awareness now shapes the way he talks about Christ with others. We talk about patience, God’s timing, and the difference between forcing faith and faithfully loving people. Ben also shares the transformational experience of training for and completing the New York City Marathon—using physical suffering as a way to test perseverance, deepen trust in God, and prove to himself that he no longer quits when things get hard. Faith isn’t just belief—it’s endurance. If you’ve been tempted to give up, remember: growth takes time, seeds take patience, and sometimes the fire is what shapes you most.