Suffering, Track Two, and Finding Common Ground in the Grey: Disrupting Death with Barb Pesut

 ”And so, in my perfect world, over the next decade, we would … really dwell in the grey a little bit more and be honest with one another about how we're making sense of this, about what we feel comfortable with, what we don't feel comfortable with. Because if you can't have those conversations, everything ends up on one side of the divide or the other, and we go forward in a polarised manner.” In the first episode of 2026, Kathy and Keri-Lyn have the privilege and pleasure of speaking with Dr. Barb Pesut about suffering, Track Two, and finding common ground in the grey.  Barb Pesut is a Professor in the School of Nursing at the University of British Columbia Okanagan. She holds a Principal Research Chair in Palliative and End of Life Care and has been doing research in MAID since 2017. Music for Disrupting Death was created by the ever-lovely Sarah McInnis. Sarah is a music therapist, a songwriter, a multi-instrumentalist and End-of-Life Doula. In 2021, Sarah began The Legacy Song Project, writing original songs for folks at the end-of-life, and for folks who have lost loved ones. To learn more about Sarah, visit her website https://sarahmcinnis.com. This episode of Disrupting Death was produced by Keri-Lyn Durant.