This is the place where sports can be in the show. We have do rad Nick. Spike people and shelter with the casey had on what's up with that. Hey, John, don't do you want to?
Man, just throw back. I forgot. Man, you take this off. I forget.
You forget that your team was playing Casey in the Super Bowl. I did. I forgot. I just got throw back.
And I forgot. I just put on the head. Whatever match you make a statement. You make a statement.
This is another example. You ride in the fence. You go ahead pick the Eagles. All this.
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No, no, no. Well, as you guys can see by the title, we are here to definitely look ahead to the upcoming Super Bowl 56 and between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles, but before we get into that, we will give you guys our individual MVP, coach of the year, office, whether you're defense, whether you're coming up with the year and rookie of the year, all of that will be happening later in the show. But we did an instant reaction to it Sunday the news broke Saturday Saturday early Sunday morning something like that depending on where you are I think it was on the West Coast it was still Saturday so we want to go back to the trade that took place between the Dallas Mavericks and the Los Angeles Lakers and see if we have any what I'm cool I'm saying what I don't you didn't get it up my way let them know the movie I'm saying we're around here shouting when he was cussing out here I'm trying to get fans I was like thank you and Q will be joining us because later he said he's running about 10 late but oh yeah man let's go back to the trades if we have any any new thoughts any new feelings on the situation obviously Spike you are not there so we definitely want to get your take on the situation so we'll look at this and they will take a look at the Dallas because we didn't really get a chance to discuss how things look with Dallas so out of the blue a blockbuster tray happened on Saturday night that is expected to impact the balance of power in the Western Conference for years to come the Los Angeles Lakers Dallas Mavericks and Utah Jazz completed a three-team trade that sends Luca Docchich to Los Angeles and Anthony Davis to Dallas before I get into the question about this trade what were your thoughts what are your thoughts on the trade that sent Docchich to Dela? When I first leaned in I thought it was one of them tweets to Sheldon or me to send over to the Davis West Dallas game it's hate be real they didn't trade and once they confirmed it and figured out it was real and your boy came back and said no this is true it made sense that the Lakers were able to do this like the Lakers pull a superstar ever since I've been alive even before he didn't like go back to Will Chamberlain Shaq whoever it may be like they always are able to keep this thing going I was really surprised it was Luca I know at one point Mark Cuban was like he would never let him go but Mark Cuban owned him after most they may say something to that and then already on well yeah he'll make the decisions anyway right so I thought it was interesting the rumors that were coming out saying like Rob Palenco was saying he was overweight and they better get in front of it now and Luca wasn't fitting in with Maverick culture I thought about that time when Michael Finley was popping a beer out of the day at one and just once he kind of took the drink from it so it was just little bitty things it was like okay this makes sense on a larger Mappo scale he didn't because like why would you get with a Luca but if they do I could see him going to the Lakers and I could see Mavericks looking at it now like I got AD and I got got a read I might be able to pull it off again as long as AD say healthy so it was shocking at first but looking at it longer sitting with it it was like okay I understand maybe not from both sides maybe I wouldn't have did if I was Dallas but I can't hmm any any credence to the possibility that this was a tank move by the Mavericks in order to get casinos I don't know if you guys saw that yeah I saw that yeah I don't think there's anything to that no I didn't see what I don't think it was a tank move it was a lateral move but I think I think it does have something to do with with losing the way we echo those sentiments when he said that this is amazing from the standpoint of business of the game Luca was number six in Jersey sales now she was number one in sales with the Lakers now in international market they just signed them TV view let's throw it out there they only negotiated with LA it just doesn't make sense to him being traded makes no sense at all him being only negotiated to trade with LA makes even less sense so it makes sense from perspective though Shelton Nico Harrison and Rob Palinka have been in cahoots for over a decade right because we know Rob Palinka his claim of fame is he's Kobe Bryant's agent and Nico Harrison was you know what I'm saying multiple stints whether it be through Nike through through other ventures Nico Harrison has been there so they have they have a relationship and that's also how he didn't get nobody knew about you know what I'm saying you hear what Rob Palinka says and says that you know we dealt this in good faith you know that there was trust there that was built over time which is the reason why I didn't why I didn't come out you know what I'm saying so I get it from that perspective and here's the thing Ken to answer the question is this a tank move it's not because you know y'all kept grilling me was the wrong wrong wrong word of choice okay oh it was more collusion but y'all was grilling me to say like are the mabs a better basketball team overall and you know obviously I had some more time than everybody's had more time to go to the mabs side of it so hold that hold that thought let's what about the Lakers because we're gonna start with them first like they have Luca they have LeBron they got Matt Sleeber they got Mark Eve Morris like how can the Lakers build around Luca and LeBron or do you think this is it for LeBron and I like do they move on from from him this is this is this to me is the swan song for the people that's bullshit how that she do that too well this is the this is the swan song for LeBron entering the Luca era we talked about before how like you said somebody said with will Chamberlain will Chamberlain to magic there's always going to be a one to check to Kobe there's always going to be that one star and he's going to be in LA you had to replace right now the couple was there you had no picks to get anything to replace him so what do you do hey man y'all get to see you know you get whatever either you'll get here or we're gonna move you to Vegas that's the that's the piece and I believe that I just believe in a couple years you're gonna see Dallas either getting what they want there or they're gonna move in Vegas they got something for this trade because what they got wasn't a trade but yeah Dallas to put it playing I think you've seen the swan song for LeBron the introduction is Lucas team now so we'll see how that plays out it's Lucas team yes I think it's a bit chilly I would I would I would like that because at this point Lucas better than LeBron at least move y'all crazy y'all think that oh I'm saying like the Lakers are seeing this as Lucas team like this ain't LeBron's team moving forward without right now y'all think that like as soon as looking into the court this look at a I'll say this I'll say this game as soon as after this season I think LeBron's gone okay he's gonna move on that's what I'm saying like this is Lucas team like yeah you still got your name on the deed or whatever but like why do you think LeBron is going after this season because I just don't see I don't see how they really can play together and I don't see them really even if they can't figure that part out I don't see them getting enough talent to truly compete because at this point if LeBron's not really competing what is he there for you know especially since they moved out the dude that he just he won a title with when he like the whole point on him going there was to bring AD to win a title yeah but without Lucas I don't see that happening but we saw Luca and we questioned Luca and Kyrie and they made it all the way to the finals like what is the difference with LeBron?
Wait hold on now hold on now look at that team it was Kyrie the big man that could play defense and Luca the offense was Luca and Kyrie that was it that was it you have to mention LeBron has known to the finals with all the guards and Kyrie and Cleveland and with D-Wade in Miami even more so than it was at this stage in his career he looking to be last year I think I think I was staying I think y'all really overestimated either the bench of the Lakers or underestimated the bench of Dallas when they went on that finals run because PJ Washington there was a couple other players that I came right now because his Dallas not to be with foot but there was like when you watched that like that run they made to the finals but a lot of people stepped up a lot of people were like impact players that I do not see on the Lakers especially on the defensive end Nick it was PJ Washington against Minnesota could not miss and then with Kyrie. Well Oklahoma City series he showed up then too. I know I think they were hot but what happened to PJ what am I right? PJ Washington all of them Jokers went back to normal when they got to the finals even Kyrie.
That's because they remember against like we already know Boston even going into that finals was like everybody knew Boston was going to win that so here at the time we were okay they wouldn't know one at time well first of all not everybody picked Boston the majority of us picked the Dallas Mavericks including myself so that's number two number two is this oh my god I got to run to take okay run to take number two is this to me it's not if you lose it's how you lose right and it wasn't because Luca was heroic Luca looked fucking fat lost and lazy that's what Luca looked like in them finals he didn't look like that going throughout the western conference but when he got to the finals bro it was blow by after blow by it was he didn't have and here's the thing I'll blame it on the stamina but he didn't it seemed like his fervor for the game wasn't there he didn't have any heart in them finals bro if you go back and watch those those those low lights it was horrible horrible and even if you don't have the legs bro you have to show the effort he didn't even have the effort all he was doing was complaining to the refs really man this was well don't remember that horrible attempt of trying to get a charge and he was gonna get a five-year with five five five come on man how do you see this playing out in in LA though that's what I'm saying but I think that it worked we look I didn't think I read and Luca would work but it did and now you get away not the office of prowess of Cal rebut but but I think it could work and that's how it could work how can how can it work based up like people make my whole argument you're saying this dude who's going to replace AD who's shorter fatter and not as athletic so I'm looking at it more so he is but like overall like how does this team win it's my bitch and I was the first to put in the chat that you know shit trade LeBron because I don't see it working but again after a little bit of time thinking about what that Dallas Maverick team looked like and I didn't anticipate Luca and Kyrie working well to Ken's point and I agree LeBron is an overall better version of Kyrie Kyrie is a bucket-gitter killer assassin we get that he's better than LeBron at that but every other aspect of the game even including defense at this point in his career LeBron is still better than Kyrie in every other aspect of the game you know what I'm saying so if it worked with Kyrie it can work with Luca I'm not sold on it I have to see it just the same way I had to see it to believe it with Kyrie I got to see it I do think that they are devoid of defensive specialists especially at the big position now you know with this trade but can it work bro you're talking about arguably two of the greatest passers ever and I put in Joker in there too Joker LeBron and Luca are three of the greatest passers-not named Magic Johnson Jason Kidd you know what I'm saying like those guys are that level and then you look at just offensively creative you know what I'm saying the creativity of those two guys have now LeBron has to play a little bit different he's gonna have to come off the ball a little bit more because Luca's that guy is it Luca's team I don't know what I gotta see I gotta see give me a couple games that I'll make an assessment but right now can they win I think they can make the playoffs are they a championship contender hell no I'm not right and to kick it back to the Dallas point for you people you did get rid of him and I understand you're saying he's fighting all this stuff you have it's 29 but eight and six in the finals and also your next level percentage I don't know but his next but what I'm saying is when you replace him you got to get better so that means you got to win a championship next year that's what that means next year's next year's next year's next year's next year's next year's next year's next year's next year's if you don't then that was a horrible trade so it didn't take it no other way I don't care what he was in the finals we talked about from Dallas perspective we'll get to Dallas but I'm sorry yeah but but as far as the Lakers goes the problem that I see is you know with I'll tell you a couple of those names we forgot about Dallas was Derek Lobbly coming off the bench provided defensive spark you had uh uh other big Gabriel I came in his name but he he provided offense and defensive rebounding you don't have those type players in LA that can come in and you gave up your best defender best shot blocker best rebounder so you got to replace that you got you know you got these two skilled players in in Austin Reeves and Dogg Connect who can shoot but you really don't have those defensive guys that can step up and hit a bucket when you need it too so you lost that part that part is what's going to hurt more than anything else you don't have a rent protector so you're going to have to they're going to trade for a center or they're going to have to do something about that part because I don't trust the guys they got in the post right now do you think the brothers out of there that's your that's going to be tough but I think so I think I think you'll look to I would be surprised if you ended up and go and say I but it won't be this year it'll be it'll be next year yeah great uh next mic what do y'all think I see him going back to Cleveland going to go to state I know he said he would like to order his room and say like to play with stuff I know go to state calling everybody and they mama who got a star to come to the team um to help out Steph and his legacy but if LeBron moves from his team to go to Steph I'm looking at that nigga different I don't hold you like even at even at this stage of his career because it's like bro you always going you never have nobody come to you that's that dude now of course you can say like oh yeah ad ad ad was ready to go anywhere else but the world is you know what I'm saying he's just had a little come in looking at it they had nigga this is a trade-in I think he didn't even know about he knew Nick he got a prime k-lug and let's not act like k-lug was wash when he first went to Cleveland to next point like if I'm if I'm standing I'm standing at 30 20 yeah love yeah no I'm saying like we talking about k-lug I'm talking about 30 20 k-lug man I'm talking about the guys that we like the whole point of the images that he's going to another superstars uh team and not being able to bring superstars to his team if you want to say k-lug and Anthony Davis are the superstars that he brought and that's what he's done that's fine I don't look at them as big cogs like LeBron or g-way bringing LeBron to his team or like you know I'm saying like like them bringing a bigger superstar better player to their team like LeBron nobody's better than LeBron LeBron was number one on everybody list for two decades bro so nobody's gonna be bigger than LeBron number one number two stop being disrespectful to k-lug that was 30 20 k-lug that was 30 20 k-lug I think um I think somebody's gonna pass through all this the stel curry home nobody ever talked about stel curry I was only when I talked about stel curry on this program that was the last year so look they've been flailing that's that's that's not what we talking about it's like going to finish a point and then I want to get cute thoughts on what happened and the Lakers side before we move to Dallas I think LeBron's in a good position man for as we talking about the Lakers they're fifth right now we're getting Luca one of the best players in the league right now i'm gonna find my thing about going anywhere I can dial it back I can wait and save my energy in terms of the playoffs Luca can turn it on just like he did last year with Dallas and now you got a long shot like make one or two moves not a free agent you got a long shot for this latest team being able to make a one in the playoffs like who would they be scared of like the Rockets and the Grizzlies and the Thunder in front of them the only team that they were feared in a seven game series is a nuggets and that's because they got a joke if I got LeBron and Luca I like my chances going into the season so I think the LeBron's takes with me you better know okay see right now I mean if they get like if they play if they played each other in the playoffs and I got LeBron and Luca I feel good about being okay see you tripping Spike because SGA gonna eat both of them boys up we said that last year we all said that they was no because no because I said that I said that okay see was gonna make the playoffs but then boys had similar under breath and that there was two young and then he didn't ask whooping and that's what happened is it yeah yeah you're taking him over series one of the greatest players ever at somebody's 100% 100% what about the math so let's look at the math because they're a new look math so now it's Kyrie now it's Anthony Davis they actually got pieces that make sense you know that that actually match way more than the Lakers I think people are not really talking about this team in terms of how they compliment each other so the math guy of course Anthony Davis but then they also got Matt's Christie and then they got a first round pick that may or may not be anything and then and if it is giving how Nico Harris I'm talking to play I don't think he already know he out of there he already knows he got it there but Kyrie's been quiet but he got he has to be the guy and you know there's the narrative about Kyrie being a Robin and ad being a Robin but now Kyrie got to be the leader so Kyrie be successful as a de facto leader of the mouths with AD and is AD still top 10? I don't understand how Kyrie is supposed to be the leader when AD was supposed to be taking over his leader for the Lakers like how do you follow the number two that's the I don't understand why you're trying to put him in that position they're both Robbins so you're two two Robbins equal to Batman don't do it I don't think that's how it works I think I think it's a surprise to me I think when you're talking about a little and a big two Robbins can't equal a Batman they just got to be on the same page you know there's been obviously a lot of coverage and people are talking about the they have a very good relationship like a personal relationship so I think that'll play well on the court now both of these guys for the most part have been injury pro throughout their career so how good will they be down the stretch I don't know obviously what's the AD has been battling you know he's been in and out a little bit Kyrie as well this season but if both of those guys are healthy and playing tip-top they are perfect complimentary players to each other you know what I'm saying huh going clay too yeah clay as well you know same with the floor spacer um clay I've been saying I've been on record now play as not as was as I thought he was you that's a whole other conversation about Golden State and Steve Curranum that we will have one day in time Nick I will give you your props on the Steve Curtain but that being said man Dallas Dallas if they can get it all on the same page and I like Jay Kidd as a head coach they can make a lot of noise and they match up with the the best teams in the west so can they make a finals I can see it but again I got to see it on the court too I got to make sure that those two guys right there that we got the bottom that they healthy and playing well Nick I saw a report that said that AD was quick to waive his no-trade something bonus or whatever it was something that he needed to do to make the trade happen so that was kind of shocking to me that he was ready to go because he had more money in Texas than he is in Cali boy you know Texas is good he burned his house for the insurance I went with it before I go in on the whole AD thing QO and ask me a question I want to get your thoughts on the whole trade is Tyree and AD does this not remind you of when Russ was with PG and OKC and Nick that's that's quintavious that ain't QE really haircut this Russell with the who's my Paul George 2017 yeah that's my expectations for me I mean yeah it's kind of like that you have like guys that are like almost like four or five years away from being washed you know I'm saying and I feel like this is the final window for them to make something happen yeah man this trade was I don't even like there's no other way for me to look at this trade other than the fact that like this is a ratings move I don't there's no from a value standpoint there's no argument for this trade to be made like you can't tell me that you're not going to field any offers from any other team you're not going to open up the market to see what you can get you're going to take Anthony Davis which I get is Nico Harris's guy but to me this just seems too owner involved this seems like a silver and owner thing that's happening with the way that everyone's talking about the ratings and what is going to happen with LeBron after he leaves Luca I was just overseas for seven months and was nothing but Luca Doncic and LeBron James jerseys and he's the biggest European star by far by far it's him yoked if you want to count on it's being a European star sure but it's it's Luca Doncic by far and putting him in a LA market as Boston is still in their window this to me just screams not collusion it's just the basic like it's the basic business like yo we need a revival plan for the NBA and I think that they're now they're now doing this whole smear campaign where they're trying to talk about Lucas Wade we ain't been hearing shit about Lucas Wade being a huge problem we've heard little like trickings here and there there's been tweets here and there reports but now they're coming out saying oh he was drinking too much I don't care if that dude was eating a pail of barbecue wings and watching porn hub in middle of fucking practice and to get jobs 73 points regardless so from a value standpoint you can't tell me that you got the best deal and I don't have any other other way to look at it besides the fact that it looks like legal hairs is just to be in a patchy right now and the Lakers have their transition window now wide open for the next 14 years with Luca Doncic so whatever's gonna happen here for Dallas is kind of secondary the story here is that the NBA is betting on I think Boston LA's markets to be like you know a new millennial like it's the new generation this is the postal brand era officially and I'm not really I'm not really looking at anything beyond the fact that this is just the passing of the torch you know so it's going to be a question for you well before you ask the question Q you were one of the ones before the media and more than the media talking about Luca's conditioning I was and no one would ever get on it and I was like dude this conditioning is bad now what I would I say his conditioning is so bad to where I'm not going to pay him his money no never that I'm not saying you'll trade him for Anthony Davis like I'm not doing that am I saying the 80s am I saying the 80s a bad player 80 is clearly one of the greatest players we've ever seen he's one of the best power words ever so I don't want to do that but I feel like in NFL terms this would be like trading like Joe Burrow for like their game. Yeah like it's just like you don't do that dude like no matter what. But Q like and that leads me to the question I know I agree with you they didn't necessarily get the best deal but did they get the best player possible in the deal you know so because when I look at the other greats in the league to me AD is probably as good of a player that you're going to get a return the rest of it and that was my issue as well what we did our instant reaction to it was like give me more trade cap or more a drop cap or I felt like that's where this deal was lacking but in terms of player for player I don't know you get better than AB.
I think that I don't know if you're wrong but I know that it's wrong to not at least open the market up to see hey will the Sixers give me Joel and B and a player but all I'm saying is that you can't say that you you have this very well if I'm a six fan I want us to get off all these players that we have on the controversy maxing but but here's what I'm saying though because I'm saying though is that if you're a GM and you're telling that you're not gonna do your due deal just to open the market up there's there would have been an all-out Avengers age of Ultron level war for Luca Donchich if you say I'm putting him on the market you might get Chad Holmgren and Josh Williams and whoever else to go with Shae Gilles out there you might get Milwaukee say we'll give you uh we'll give you Gianna's at the kubo because he wants to go somewhere and Gianna's been saying he's trying to get all over I'm not being crazy do I but you tell me I'm afraid for you guys. I'm afraid for you guys. I think if people are saying this correctly I'm gonna put Luca out there and I'm shopping around and I got to do all this with draft picks and draft cap they were trying to get a deal doing quick for some reason I'm not sure why but AD is probably the best thing you're gonna get back here by your school I'm a player. I'm a player wise.
I'm a schooly draft picks. No man. Okay, though you can get that in Booker if you're talking about some younger but you're talking about 31 year old Anthony Davis I'm not saying he's great. I'm not saying he's not great.
I'm not saying that he's not an amazing player. I'm saying that we just saw Luca Donchich get traded and y'all telling me that it's crazy that you couldn't say yo Phoenix you want who you want. You know and when I say like the best player right not only that but the fit for the Mavericks right because I love Devin Booker like I'll come on here for several years and said Devin Booker is top two shooting guard in the league but Devin Booker in my opinion doesn't fit or doesn't take them over the top or potentially better as a basketball unit to me I'm not saying AD is better than Luca but as a basketball unit to me this is more formidable than what Luca was with the maps because you have a rim protector like you said you have a top seven you know power forward of all time that's a rim protector super versatile can shoot three you don't really want him to shoot three but have definitely 15 to 18 foot game you finish around the basket can create his own shot so basketball wise and that's what I mean like the best basketball player not just like individually but for the fit for Dallas I don't know if you get a better because I don't know if Milwaukee is straight like to me honest and look on the same level I don't know if if I'm like I'm not putting Luca in together you know I'm not saying I'm not saying that these are exact one-to-one situations I'm saying that if you're telling me you have a super rare vehicle that is only worth X amount of money and you're trying to sell it and then one guy comes to you and says oh shit does he know it's worth that much you say I'll give you a lesser value vehicle for this super rare vehicle that costs five times more it's in better condition it's one of and instead of saying you know what I like that offer but let me go and shop this around to see if anyone else gonna give me some shit from my super rare vehicle I'm gonna just take the first offer that comes to me and you're telling me that Nico Harrison and what do I call to him Nico and that is insane like that is an insane thing to do if you have a Luca Doncic level player I think you can't go to somebody be like hey just between me and you can I get don't connect maybe every hand I can't get him okay that's cool just give me AD and Max Christie for Luca Doncic just can I have a quick scenario I have a quick scenario for you I want to ask you do you take the same thing if management being that it's new saying I don't want him I don't want him anymore like we not excited him we want you to get the best deal for us and want you to do it quickly wouldn't it make sense to him having a relationship that you have with Rob Palinka that being the first person that he called I agree with that and I think that is the case I think that that is exactly the case but the issue is is that you have to have some level of self-preservation here because if management is going to try to fire you because you're not doing what they want they damn sure gonna fire you because what's the window here I'm not saying that they can't do something in the next two seasons but you're hinging a lot on Kyrie and Anthony Davis' health just to faithful to what you got going on and I don't think that this is the player or at least this is the deal that you need to rush to make you need to see okay if Rob Palinka really wants Luca Doncic can we say that one more time if Rob Palinka really wants Luca Doncic he'll be there in a week he'll be there in two weeks he'll be there in the summer because it's Luca fucking Doncicic you know what I'm saying like if you know me if you're a single man and kindly along it's telling you yo I might take you out on a date you might not be waiting up for it but like my guy if you're around and you don't answer fucking from you feel me so I'm not really hearing the whole like damage control from Dallas now we have a three year window but the future is not what the fuck are you talking about dude what you're gonna say Shout out to that was it I was gonna say I grew with you whole honey on that because even like I said even if you're gonna take a deal from just this team you man that may have been your first car but damn sure shouldn't be relaxed I'm gonna see what else is going on but if I'm gonna take it you gonna give me one of those those other guys to go along with it I'm gonna take a dog connect or I'm gonna take a horse or a reeze you give me something else other than just AD it's more than just this one window I'm not giving you a 25 year old for a player with a couple years now then Kyrie can opt out after the season which just makes this a very it's just it's just a weird situation but it's not about looking at LA man this is just but you know I think I think uh what Spike said made a lot of sense that's the only thing that can make sense is like we're not bringing him back I'm only this guy get rid of him give me what you can and we good with that preservice job I don't know but that remains to be seen I'm really interested in seeing how AD and Kyrie look on the court um Luca's gonna be back after all it's not right so it's definitely going to be be interesting to see what happens and really watching this casino story too because that that's gonna be a something to watch now that that's got put out there that's true so I don't know I don't know uh nevertheless we'll leave it there um man if they win a fucking if Dallas win a title bro and I don't know this if and I don't have anything that I'm just gonna watch myself I imagine that would be that would be uh hell of a story it would if because the great to me the greatest uh GM president whoever that got away with some shit like this was uh do from Toronto what was his name when he tried to get away he's the only one who came away saying look they got rolled a dice and I hit seven you know I'm gonna say you Jerry if Nico if Nico won a title I would even give him credit if he even gets back to the finals to keep it being like obviously like you said a lot of stuff has go to right like everybody has to be healthy and all that shit if he even gets them back to the finals I'm like but this Nico this nigga Nico may be the best GM in the fucking league you know like real like real like because like if you look at his moves he's amazing he joined the team since he took over like getting Kyrie everybody questioned him it worked out you know what I'm saying getting all those other pieces everybody kind of questioned him it still worked out this is the this is the most balliest move ever like I don't know what else is that Nick you do you know how many first round picks you gave up from a kale bridges with your name that's what I'm saying yo I'm not I'm not saying I'm not saying he didn't leave you know shit on the table when it comes to the deal is the deal is a bad deal in general I'm just talking more of like even with that being said if he even gets this team to the finals like because let's be honest like draft picks don't need shit these days there's nobody's really coming out the end of the NCAA that's outside a cooper fucking flag and we he may not be a top pick you know what he's picks are really really mean the only thing is like the only credit that I give Nico is that if he works to shop around Luca one he could um he could say I'm only going to this team which then comes down the whole deal or two like ad is like one of those players that you'll be like all right if I got him that's better than most niggas you know I got your top 10 remember it's hot 10 to me I don't think he was a top 10 player I think he's a top 10 player when healthy he's not in the game he ain't top 10 to me no no no no no no no no no no no no no no you better get huh yeah he's not better than he is yes he is yes he is not even close I just don't understand the move I just don't understand the move because I feel like the future was kind of disregarded when when you're trading a guy who's going to be 26 in a couple of days you just completely disregard the fact that you have guys that are aging and in three to four years he's not even going to be 29 bro like this dude is going to still be in this late 27 28 range I'm looking at teams like Orlando Sacramento and you don't even ask for people like you know just follow in Francois I mean it's clear it's like something else is happening that no one knows about holding into anybody and I don't know if we ever found out but I'll put it to you guys this way this trade is so bad that even if Nick they went back to the finals they still would say this is the bad trade it's just okay so let's take it let's take it let's take it for before we move on if they win the finals right everybody if they win the finals is he not the greatest he ever bought if they win the finals the conversation would be a little bit different let's see I'm gonna look at him like bro but you're still traded no nothing it's still an excusable it's just it's just if the Lakers will go on under Lucas 10 years he's 25 let's say he stops my family 36 having 11 12 year window here right if they win three or four championships under Luca like it makes the other trade look like dude really let's be honest why do we act like the Lakers are like have been a championship type level team like they won in every decade so they won every decade but like we five years away from the next one so my thing is like I'm still I don't I don't I'm not saying this about more norso Luca or LeBron it's more the team of LA it's like bro they in the west bro I'm not picking them over uh Gris Memphis uh Denver uh OKC who else we got Minnesota like I'm not picking these niggas over the line is IQ alone is going to win them a playoff series like yeah serious again I think they're a playoff team that's fine but that's and I think they can be pretty much anybody stands Denver maybe they not going to go outside of it I don't see them going to go to Western Commons finals for the next five years I mean it's not a lot of the players but it's the Lakers every decade they go to the finals bro every decade what do you do? we say that because they went to the finals and that's all because but people that's all because Rob Palico didn't run it back he didn't run it back Rob Palico trying to weigh all their assets regardless that's a separate point they're going to build around Luca Donchich he's the he's the new face I think this is all about revitalizing Boston LA shit because they're both on a timeline to have Tatum Luca be like the guys right now right so I think that's what we're going for and I think that they're gonna undoubtedly build around him dude well we'll get there we are a week away from being able to see exactly what all these things do because the NFL will be coming to a close with the Super Bowl being played Sunday and as we get ready to call it a wrap on the season we want to look back at the players that are not there well depends I don't know who's on people's list and I just recognize some of the players and coaches that have had an outstanding season so we will now give you guys our NFL MVPs coach of the year office player your defense player your coach come back player the year rookie of the year you feel free to you know come on the spot but who do you want to start with it well first I want to say Lou but I almost said it too and can't say that and pour it out a little liquor because the NFL season coming to a air buzz is sad we got to talk about it we got 45 minutes at the top of the show with basketball you know what we're talking about we're talking about a fat white guy at that but he's still great don't worry we got Dallas's spring game about three weeks let's let's show him what to talk to let's start with him let's start with him all right we're gonna do my list man but I think he put them all on one oh he just went all together okay so we don't have to just talk about one or more I guess we just start off with the the weakest one or the most first one that's the first one you have to start it who coach of the year the MVP oh y'all want to start with the MVP we do that last year oh everybody is picking the one I thought I'm interested in that let's do coach of the year then okay we'll do coach of the year boom I said my sitting bro you too long into the franchise mode you know it's it's black history months I'm not gonna make this joke but it's a joke it is definitely there I'm gonna say let's out yo I was gonna say so yeah so we got uh Andy Reed who was that guy next to who was Kevin O'Connell.
Kevin O'Connell. You don't even know the fucking move like this. You don't even know the fucking move like this. You don't even know the damn thing.
And then let's just write this. Is that Dan Quinn? That's Dan Quinn. Yeah, where would this other guy is?
Who do you have people? I have Kevin O'Connell. Kevin O'Connell. So two of you have an O'Connell.
All right. I got Dan Quinn also, guys. So, okay. Let me ask you the question for the Dan Quinn people before we go to Kevin O'Connell.
Was that before the season ended or after their season ended? In the middle of. In the middle of. I don't even know the complete shit.
So I'm purpose-in-one. Okay. Wait, hold on. So y'all looked at this through mid-year.
I thought we was looking at it. Mine was at the end of the year. Mine was at the end of the year. No, I mean, I started to turn that way.
So that's what I started thinking. Oh, okay. Right, right, right. So you said, so Shawn, he was the end of the playoffs for you.
No, the end of the regular season. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's the regular season awards, bro.
I'm just trying to make sure we're like, who's time on his own? Cause I don't know what. I like to spike the Tom Cruise or somebody. Who the fuck is that?
Spike Pick the villain of Daredevil season three. I can't believe y'all niggas is picking white man. Look, Jay Daniels carried this dude. Like, I mean, that's what I'm saying.
Wait, man, look, bro, I just picked a white, a bright job. I got a superstar. It's a generational quarterback. What I'm saying, yeah.
We've seen Dan Queen shit his pants in several situations. Most namely with the Cowboys last season against Green Bay. Most namely, 28, three versus the Falcons. Like he's not a good coach, but he's just no one in situations.
No, I don't know. I mean, you giving, wasn't it? Kevin O'Connell, when that's all my story. That's all my story.
Give the fuck off of here. That's all my story. Yeah. We see him last night.
I'm talking about that. Same thing. What's that about was when they got to the playoffs, where Kevin O'Connor was able to do throughout the regular season with what's been dangames that was him being a hell of a coach. What's Sam Darnell?
Well, he had people and I'm fearless. They had the best one of the best rappers even the league. They had one of the best defensive. What else?
You know, have a quarterback. I think I think I'm done. I think I said, I don't know what's going to be the guy that he was. He's being minutes.
He's losing. And also, okay. I guess what the coach was. I got to have him watching.
Yes, what coach was when they did it was him. O'Connell. When case Keenum went to the N.C. Championship game?
No. Exactly. They didn't. I don't know.
I don't know. They didn't even finish it before. Let me say this about Dan Quinn, because I hear what Spike was saying. He's not necessarily wrong.
My thing is I look at Dan Quinn is that he's always been a part of a turnaround program. Yeah. When he was when he was in Atlanta, that ain't been the same since he left. As great as it was as bad as it was.
If it ain't been the same since he left. In Dallas, them three years, we always went in 12 plus 10 plus games. He was a part of that defense. Now again, you judging them off the regular season.
We're judging them off the regular season. You're talking about playoff shit Lou. That's where you obviously that's the different. He's talking about you.
I get that. I get that. I get that. His pants when it's important.
But you're talking about the playoffs. You're not talking about the series. He's good regular season. My thing is that no one thought that Washington after winning just four games last year was going triple that.
You know what I'm saying? That's insane to say that especially in that division, especially with a rookie QB. So I'm not taking nothing away from Daniel Daniels. I don't have a lot of Daniel's to do.
I'm just saying. Hold on. I don't work with him. I'm giving Dan Quinn two things.
I'm giving him one. He knows how to go to fucking coaches staff. He knows he's always been around a turnaround program. Yes.
And to add on to your point, Nick, he revitalized Earth's career. He brought back Bobby Wagner. He's got another name on that team. It's not like you had names to pull from Washington.
They've got a name. He's a rookie. He's a rookie. And Daniel's.
And he was tied for him to step up with Dan Quinn was supposed to do his job and be a defensive coach. He gave up three Russian touchdowns to say, go on Barkley and Jayden Hirsch. When? I will see that in the last game.
You're still talking about the playoffs. This is the record. Y'all giving him a pass because not all the regular season away don't matter. We know what's happening.
I mean, I think this is terrible. Spike, I think the same coaches, but let's keep it at the regular season. Look, the reason why the right choice is Kevin O'Connell is because we saw him do it with Kurt Franklin, you know, say, or, no, I'm sorry, my bad, Kurt Cousins, you know what I'm saying? Like we saw him do it with Kurt Cousins that we all questioned how good of a quarterback he was.
He went down with a, with an Achilles tear. They go and get Sam Darnell. And even before Sam Darnell, they drafted Jay J. McCarthy and Jay J was like, oh shit, is he the best quarterback out this class when we saw him in preseason?
So we know that for bare minimum, he is a quarterback whisperer supreme. Now the play calling in this end of third, he could get a little bit better when it comes to that. But who the hell had the Minnesota Vikings winning 14 games and challenging for the number one overall see in the NFC? Nobody had that.
And that's all because you could give Justin Jefferson this end of third. That's a Ferrari on the outside. Somebody got to start the engine and put gas in the car. And we, nobody thought Sam Darnell could do that.
So the fact that Kevin O'Connell could do that with damn near any quarterback under the helm, he is definitely the coach of the year. I understand. What was the difference between Kevin O'Connell last year and this year? Like, I don't think that's something I'll think is a big difference.
The biggest difference is that Kirk Cousins is a known commodity. We know he's middle of the pack. We know that he's going to be solid. We know that he could get you to the playoffs.
Is he a Super Bowl winning quarterback? No, but Sam Darnell? So is Sam Darnell. Sam Darnell.
Sam Darnell is a known commodity. The commodity is a known commodity. He's a known commodity. He's played for two years.
He's not a playoff. But we know that he's not a playoff quarterback. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
I've seen this before from multiple situations in Minnesota where they've gotten scrap guys and they've gotten to NCAA games. They've gotten to second rounds. They, you don't remember, K's Kingdom losing 41 to seven against the Eagles in 2018? Like this situation has happened to you.
And I'm not saying that he's not worthy of it. I'm not saying he's not worthy of a top three slot. I'm saying that I don't think anybody, not even Minnesota fans believed it. I think that it always helps in a real reason.
I mean, you know what you believe, Dankwin. You all sat up on this panel and I'm not necessarily used by it. I do. It was not on the panel.
It was on the national media and they believed in the commanders. They believed they could maybe beat the Eagles. Oh, should they beat the Lions? I believe now.
When I started going behind, I believe. Well, the belief in the fact that Daniel was the engine for Sherba, Dankwin, for order instruction to that team. The defense was playing better and they were mediocre. It's like, why though?
Like, they're why wasn't because of Dan Quinn. I can honestly say the why behind Minnesota is Kevin O'Kyn. Well, I don't know what we can say that. I'm sorry.
We can't really say that. Not the truth because we don't know a world where Daniel is a QB, not with Dan Quinn. Exactly. Like the issue is though, is that we see what Dan Quinn brings to certain programs.
Dallas looked considerably worse on defense when he left. So he clearly brings value on that side of the ball. And I'm not trying to have y'all discount what every offensive line in every offensive player was saying the first seven weeks. So Brian Flores called some crazy fucking defenses.
That's not all Kevin McConnell too. So it's all the situation. It's the QB. It's like it's like your staff.
So, you know, I was just looking at the schedule to Minnesota's most impressive win was against Green Bay a couple of times. I was trying to see that was trying to figure out because I'm both tomorrow. I'm not saying that they're not in consideration. But that's all I was going to say.
You know what? The e-bikes that don't even matter because you know what happened when the season was over. The guys that got credit. How do I want to put this?
Kevin O'Connell got credit for Sam D'Arto for the regular season and Sam D'Arto turned around and let him down in the playoffs. Dan Quinn got credit in the regular season for Jayden Daniels and Dan Quinn turned around and let's say Jayden Daniels down in the playoffs. So both of the guys that they ended up showing who they are at the wrong time. I'm not saying that.
I don't understand their flaws. I feel like I'm one of the few people that said it. Not only the San Donallet Kevin O'Connell, I'm kind of that San Donallet too with the play call and I said that in that game about that game. It was too many damn passes.
We saw early on you had to slow down the game for Sam D'Arto because the moment was too big and as a play caller he didn't do that. But again this is not play off. You're not wrong. I was a rookie.
You're not wrong, FIFA. But he was saying he was a coach at the Donallet. He felt like he had to call him out of it. Like I have to give him plays.
He's comfortable with calling him out of it. And then Donald still didn't perform. Like he was called a place and he even hit it all year and he's just holding the ball. He's like a deer in the headlights.
So I get what you're saying and it's not wrong. But I feel like the O'Connell, he felt like I'm good enough. You should be good enough for us to overcome this and Donald nobody. They need to have almost 50 some passes like now but that's too much for Sam D'Arto.
That's not that guy. We are, I was going to say, Ken, it's a cop out there to pick any real you and shit. We're getting ready to pick any real. That's like go ball.
Are you kidding me? Nobody's admitting any. He ain't got a point too though. Like people trying to, no, no, no.
People trying to dismiss what Andy Reid is doing. He lost one game this season too just because he finished his players. And he had all those injuries. Who plays but it's huge bro?
We know hella people that play with. The engine hop, the engine hop games, like we know that was heard. They didn't have hop games. They lost Hollywood bro.
He did his own thing to get him. Kelsey was washed. No one thought he was going to be there. That's what I'm saying.
It's just teams you never believe that nobody on this panel believes they would come through. Everyone started to believe in their name. Where's the one that's? Let's go back player to you.
All right. Come back player of the year. All that shit I was talking about. I got to talk.
I got to talk. I knew I was going to look at me the way you're looking at me like this. I'll say this. I'll say this.
He was literally injured last season. Was he not? He went out last season half like they were on a roll to they after starting 0 and 3 they were like when they beat San Francisco on the road. They were making waves and he got hurt in that Ravens game and obviously season went to shit even though they still had a win at record.
This is the definition of come back. He came back from an injury and he balled out. Because the NFL has changed with the definition is because they used to give it to the guy that got hurt and it came back. It had a decent season.
Joe Burrow hasn't fallen off. You know, like this is for a guy like Sam Darnell, everybody else on the panel selected a guy that was basically out the league and resurrected his career and is looking at the biggest payday in his entire life. That is the definition of come back. Joe Burrow, you still considered a top three quarterback with or without the injury.
So get the hell up out of here. You don't want that cop out and you being a homer shut his name. I'm a rival. I would make on this one and I'll give it to Joe Burrow to.
I'm a say the reason why I lose the reason why I can't say Sam Darnell is because nothing changed about Sam Darnell. What was that record when he got hurt? When did they finish it? At the time he was like, I think there were five or five.
What did they finish it? What did they finish it? What did they finish it? They finished 9-8.
They come back from nothing. We come up with a player. Not some other team. A player.
Yeah. And I'm saying, and all I'm saying is that what he put to me showing is something that you, there was something that you said that after you said it, you couldn't say it no more and I was waiting for you to bring it up because it was his durability. You were always saying like the reason why don't we have Joe Burrow to top five? Oh, that's just me.
He's like, I don't know if he can last the whole season. Yeah. Cool. Then he can last the whole season.
He was still getting hit and everything else. But he still, but he was top three before the injury. He's still top three after the injury. And obviously this season, some people don't think he's on three.
Some people don't think he's on three. He's not top four, he's top four. He's not four. Yeah.
But he's the top two. No. And now he's a combat player here. Yeah.
He's like. You said you call the bullshit. You slip back, man. He was the MVP.
No, I'm not saying he's a VP. He's coming. I'm just gonna have a little Donald by his bro. I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not. Nothing about sandal. He played all the games.
For what? He was the situation. I don't know. The same thing about Joe Burrow.
I'm looking at how it looks. But it looks drastically different. I'm going to go with it. It's the same Donald's best season as Joe Burroughs' worst season.
That's why I can't give it to Joe. That's why we can't give it to him. Because he came back from injury. He always looked.
Well, I think that's on the list too. I think the NFL defines it also as coming back from injury, coming back from incarceration. You know what I mean? It's a place to be going to injury.
They change the injury thing. Look at how the NFL defines it now. What's next? Let's do defense of player to year.
I don't see this one. Uh-oh. We got offensive play together? We do have that.
We got defensive play. We got defensive play. Don't say the referee. I can go ahead and name your defense player.
Nick, do you want to know what the chat feels in terms of AD versus cat? What they say? 87% AD is a better player with 46 votes. So get the fuck up out of here.
Is the post up going on? They got it. Yeah, it's still going on. It ain't going to change.
Give me that result. It ain't going to change. Yeah, so yeah, I think the referee that went did not upload. But I'll go ahead and name my defensive player the year.
And then Nick, you go and spike. Thank you and people in the Shelton. I had Trey Hendrickson. Oh, I'll say yeah.
Same here. Mm. That's interesting. I had a pass or try.
I had a pass or two. I got Trey Hendrickson. Mm. I got Zack Vaughn.
I'm not sure. I'm right with you, Tom, but. Absolutely. Yeah.
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They're success. They're success. He is made. They play.
They play. He's been a revelation. He's been a revelation. He's been a revelation.
He's been a really good this year. Yeah, he's made play. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that.
He's a solid player on a team with a lot of really good players. He's forced a lot of fun moves. He's got a lot of facts this year. He has a lot of talent.
I know because I've looked into it. I've heard people talking highly about everything that he's done. But defense of player of the year is a stretch. Well, you don't want to see.
No, no, no, no. It was really good. Yeah, the only reason I said is because like I said, you can attribute a couple of those men's to him directly. He's played alone like plays that he's made in Christ's time.
Be it recovering the fumble, creating the fumble. It's not funny, but it's true. It's true. I'm sorry.
I'm laughing. You know what I'm laughing. That's what I'm laughing. It's funny.
It's funny. But that's the funniest thing you said. What you said, bro? You said Zack Bond.
No, no, no. Hey, you. Has he not probably single handed one of these two or three games. Like the New Orleans game he balls the fuck out purpose, first, first, first, first.
And I would say that on the defensive side of the ball, Zack Bond's ability to punch the ball out, be around fumbles, secure fumbles, calls fumbles, the sacks. Interceptions, everything, the Jacksonville game turn. He's turned a lot of momentum towards our way. So I'll give him that.
I'm not mad. Let's move on. I'm too long. Oh my God.
I just think it's a Zack Bond. Before we move on, what do Trey Henderson do? Why would I pick him? Trey Andrews.
Let him lead to the league. No help. Yeah, he's the only. Maybe another defensive player on the Bengals.
It's a level of translate to win. Yeah. Sometimes he won. That's what I'm saying.
Let's say it's a player, bro. We're not talking about teams. Trey Henderson tomorrow is Gary. Wow.
Hold on. But that was my just a picture for also selecting Trey Hendricks. We go to the. That's right.
That's right. Five four swumbles. Okay. That's all good.
Five hundred. One more time. How many UGA players do the damn Eagles have? Number one.
Number two, we've talked about the Eagles being top to bottom. One of the best rosters probably ever constructed, right? And on the Cincinnati, like Nick just said, bro, who is on that D line? He's in the line back and forth.
Who's in the second? That boy, Trey Henderson had no help. But he led the league in sacks. Bro, that is an accomplishment.
I agree. Now, I'll. I'll just not. Yeah.
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I don't know if those are two separate arguments if somebody's a better player I know but the year somebody had doesn't always necessarily mean that the presence of a player Right, so but I'm just saying that the years like Bonnie said it's been really fucking good Bro, and it does deserve a look for deepest buddy here I'm not saying that if you don't think that he deserves it fine cool I love pass our time personally just when he was able to shut down the whole side of the field But it's like that goes there's a little bro $6 million bro like that's just crazy I mean she does that how he got all those he got all those elite guys around him It makes the job way and he's the best player in the way offensive and now he's the best player on that team They didn't even miss you Jalen Carter Necessarily you no, but please please one last thing when I was very suspect about the defense the first four weeks of the season before We got the bi-week the one player on defense who really to the two players who showed up was Queen on his act bond I was very She-visioned over the Ole Smith Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter I thought they are did we drive some bus here? But the banjo got it together and everyone started yelling because I got on the queen I would only want it from the Green Bay game till the fourth week that showed up every week we can move on Offensive player to year and before we have to close out the show came we got to talk about the Miles Garrett thing But um, you should go probably out with that But we got off at the player year FIFA who's you say tomorrow takes to the corner winner? Alright, so look I'm gonna start with you. Why the hell you pick with my Jackson?
The hell office of you Most valuable player I'm not sure if I would put him there spoiler alert, but as far as what we've seen a quarterback do I don't think it'd be like you can't hold anything to it him playing that position in the regular season not necessarily in the playoffs It looks different the game looks lower. It looked like he can do anything He wants to at some point in the season. Yeah, he lost the game But I think that's because he has an average as coach they don't give him good schemes I'm telling you the reason why he lost games and they may not look back to do this season I think as far as offensively he's the most unstoppable player probably in the league I don't think we need to touch like or to speak on sequon. Um, yeah, it's just obvious.
I'll just say this about tomorrow It's a triple crown. It's only five. There's only four of the niggas until tomorrow that did that before so I just I like to reward If say I broke the record, I would say say like Nick number three bingles in this whole thing 100% correct the triple crown is great and if you would have broken the record you're right in my head I'm like bro. He did sit down like he intentionally didn't break the record So I gave him credit for something he didn't do because it was clearly there That's why I went and I played Nick Sirioni for that because you saw Zach Taylor said Yeah, the season may be over but we gonna let your March a's get this triple crown of his own That's fine, that's fine.
It's a hell of a step head my thing is this though So we talk about like when mark when Barkley said but he was like my daddy was looking forward to it Kinda cuz he was like like he would have had our family name in the record books So if you lose something then what if you lose on the greatest does one the great That's my show that's why I'm so I'm gonna say it's in with it y'all talking as Eagles fans I'm talking to the Seqwon fan. I wanted to see him break No, this is the fan of the sport like I would rather if you feel like as an organization You don't want your player to like to get hurt against against his old team I'm not playing a karma like that dude. I'm not trying to go and get the record when you when we're in pursuit of a title And it's very much so realistic. So it's like go rest yourself for one Yeah, prepare for Green Bay Because no because Nick the first one as soon as he get hurt and to be like man That's so crazy man, right?
Can't believe second one towards Achilles against the fucking green baby. I'm gonna say this Q because kid Did they not run him? 60 times again? When they get But he would have got it But he would have got it but he would have you can't ignore the triple crownness.
I mean After the triple crown to me it was how they utilized your mark taste like he literally was all over the field They put him in a slot a lot more this year. They come in motion, huh? So much as you got to yeah, you know, so to me it was a triple crown But on top of it, it was just how they utilize them like he literally and if y'all not subscribe I should go subscribe to the Steve Smith YouTube channel like the way he raised out why receivers is amazing Obviously he was one of the most underrated to ever do it in the way he broke down to Marchase changed my perspective And I was like, you know what he is right like he is right. So hey, I'm sorry Y'all minus obviously I didn't have say one of my offensive player.
You say one. I had the Marjaxon So the Marjaxon was my office play to you. I had say one You just realized that I did I just realized it looking back at well I was like well, maybe go into something else because I didn't have him for that but I had him reverse You must have said that to him. No, I said it's all right.
I'm looking at You slipping Jay, that's what he trying to tell you live on Let's go to rookie of year if we can yeah Yeah, don't wanna have left the MVP picks and the Super Bowl picks but I had a jenny Daniels Jenny Daniels all the way Here we go girl Nick that's right I Booper a thug I'm gonna say two things that I don't normally say on this program one I have to agree with FIFA I was wrong on the Josh Island and Rogers Jets, you know bills thing so wrong so that Alan exceeded my expectations He took a team to the championship game. Can we can we click? I was I was I'm going to give credit with credit as far as Josh Island and I'm only which is why I gave him all that criticism last week When he didn't do the fucking thing to get the job done like you can't you can't drag a team there and say like oh shit I need Dalton can't say to save me. Um, I will say this about the reason why I didn't pick Lamar Same reason why I didn't pick Sam Donifil come back player here So what did I learn different about Lamar Jackson?
He don't show up when you need it to do and how many MVPs can we give a nigga? Who can't even get to the fucking Super Bowl? He was like to me like you sell me earlier. You just said I'm saying this for this one contact blue This one exception when you give a QB three MVPs in what five years or six years?
You're putting him in rare areas far saying like he is Like top eight of all time or top five of all time in them conversations And I don't think that I don't as great as Lamar Jackson is I don't think we're saying that which is why I'm like I'm not gonna give him a word of put him in that conversation If I don't really believe it so that's why I'm like this is a year that Josh Island realistically probably so only time is gonna get a MVP award and he deserves it this year more sort of a You can start with a white guy. He's good. He's good. He's good.
I don't even think Lamar can read it So I Yeah, since I was the only other person to pick a quarterback. Let me go look I will agree that Josh Allen did a lot with a little right like yeah I work here. I received out there that struggled a lot of the season They traded mid-season for the guy from Cleveland. I can't think it was named on bad one name.
Yeah for Cooper. Oh, Marie Cooper, um, and he did a lot but like you said, you know, you got him today It's a championship game to happen, you know with with Pat Mahomes And I was the one that if you want to say shot on bail I shot him a lot of bail but to me if we're looking at the regular season Yes, Lamar had more help but Lamar was more spectacular like I think he only threw four picks one of those picks was on him The other three like it had nothing to do with him The season Lamar Jackson was more spectacular in my opinion and he he was just more he was what we call him super Negro like like we literally dubbed him that We all cosign we all cosign that name To me he just had a more spectacular season and that's the only reason why I pick them I'm not saying I'm in this and worth it. I say there's one thing you because it's gonna stand on something that Sheldon always talk about The nigga the nigga one more games for the shittier team Hey, this is the most surprising thing I've been a part of on dating sports like you should be a bail And it's but you know Crazy first of all this is a regular season where that's what we talked about a second of all listen If I came into the season before the season started with the rosters that we see and I said show me better $100 that Josh I'm gonna win two more games than Lamar Jackson in the Ravens what would you say that to honey? Yeah, you know You know it's like Nick is just saying like it's just something about that Lamar guy don't trust You know Because I had Josh Allen typed out for Similar reasons that he was able to do a lot with nothing and I'm hard Numbers were crazy, but in and in doing that I realized that we're talking about MVPs And this is the one opportunity to not just always award MVP to a quarterback from this another guy that's deserving and you take Say quite often he was seen bro.
It's a completely different team. I think that like it's clearly say quite And that's why you got to give it to me at a superhuman season He bought out and he just deserved it for me I did like I said I gave Lamar Jackson offensive player the year and the reason why I did that was because of what you said those very reasons He didn't turn it all over and he had a hell of a season But to me MVP goes to say good Just because of the fact that without him the entire like DNA of the team is different like we have to rely more on passing game The defense might be stressed more it exposes some things that we did not really you know seen because of say quant and Man should one last thing though Nick said MVP I don't know what words your pick or your quote nestle Raven on the show When I was gonna say can't like you said like you asked me but say going bar and focus on the guy want to pick He was the most explosive player in the NFL this year hurts me Y'all know how much I hate the Eagles and everything they have to do with to have a running back and quarterback and still be able to do What he did yes, and I'm not sure that They were a one-dimensional three and he was still able to do it. That's a mate. That's in the maze thing So So that is it those are all of our picks for our our individual award winners for the 2025 NFL season So let's focus our attention to the big game that is happening Sunday Sunday the final final game of 2024 2025 NFL season is rematch us with both of the seven between the Eagles and the Chiefs We ready to do the picks everybody's a pick is on one one graphic So before we reveal the picks anybody want to kind of or we want me to reveal the picks I don't want to do it.
Let's talk a little let me just give my soliloquy to Sequan Barkley He will always be a giant in my heart He's always the reason why I root for Like you said little you don't only think I give a fuck about the Eagles about outside it I can get to it's you know I'm saying but I just want to say that she won't even though I didn't pick it for MVP or offensive player the year It's only because I'm disappointed next year on him for not letting me get the record because he got both of me if that's the case Okay, and he's the engine for why this team is in the school book on a deep-ass shit I don't know if you take sequan Barkley off this team and you're making it this far Nick you gave you gave more awards to the bingles Alright well before I reveal our pit skew do you have one of the super low the refs I got the chief 34 31 Alright, let's reveal the picks and they will talk about what we have boom here we go What's going on? Yeah This is my fault because I for I legit forgot to send it to him, but that's only because Jaliph on you say And I'm trying to tell you bruh, I just the hardest uber I've had to pick so much so that I had to Do it in traumatic fashion, but y'all can see it. I'll pick it silly I'm picking Philly because Blue I know I always say I shouldn't bet against patch my homes and I keep doing it But it's only because this team is I've been going against the team all season long Sheldon Oh, and at one point you just got like brother if this the answer is to answer You know say it like I know patty and them and doing anything but going for a three-peat I think it's much harder than for J-L-Hertz to keep the ball and take one say go what's been this game because they've been doing all season So I think this is a running back that they have the kensie has not seen I think it's a defense that is just as good as Kansas City that causes turnovers And I think that that that offensive line is so good It'll give Jalen time enough time to make a default to AJ Brown. So not saying that Patty can't if Patty wins patty wins I'm not gonna be surprised by that.
I just think that I'm only saying that because they're clearly favored by Vegas and it's patching my home So again, it's not shocking when he went to not Zuvo. I'm just saying that in this Super Bowl I don't think this team is with Seqon is good enough to beat them. I got him 20 I got 28 24 with a Seqon last minute to turn I'm looking at this graphic I just want to make sure that I understand some correctness. I'm gonna ask you Q Mm-hmm before to who y'all be what you said Casey I thought I was the only person to pick a scene I was gonna say y'all y'all insane y'all even watching the same thing I've been watching over the past two and a half three years.
This is this is literally the Michael Jordan effect like I Say one is great the Eagles have a really good football team If there is no way in the world I'm going to bet against the best player that's laced them up that we've seen in this generation and say You may go just super There's no way that I would do it if I was getting real much. It's like I Feel and I understand the logic But this is damn that this is like a super team bro, right it is like like I Nick you've been crunching numbers man. I've been doing my research I've been looking at I've been about all this defense and and Fangio this and and just how connected they are on defense and just They really button up bro. They really button up and they got the talent to pull off what Fangio wants to do And then they can just shorten the game with say Gwan bro.
I just I flew. I don't know how They pull this off if you beat the way to beat Patrick is to get the best team possible And they got it man. Let me ask you this based off what y'all have seen from Patrick my homes over the last two and a half years So this one even if somebody has the best team possible Y'all still think that he wouldn't be able to pull it out now. It's going around Not this go around a little just because again, this is a rematch This is a rematch two years ago with a better running yet running back You know I'm saying so it's just like that could have been the that literally was a three-point game that came down to a juju Tub pause you know I'm saying like it's like like if you put say one if you put say Kwan on that team They may win the Super Bowl.
You know I'm saying with the people the jail on hurts fumble We're talking about a coach one of the best coaches ever. Yes coming off about week. Yes with the best quarterback ever And it really come out the boundary one one two losses maybe like go check the record of him coming out the bi-week You know, you know, I understand what you're saying I really understand what you're saying Nick as far as never having a talent But I think one was a football perspective if I got Andy Reid and I got my homes and I had a whole week to prepare That's not gonna matter like this is generational. It's been broke.
It's like you're going to get Jordan. Well, you know We lost in the last time coming off about week your books I was gonna say I was gonna say something like we've seen Andy re-losing a super before couple times, you know So it's not like he's under injury What do you mean because it comes to the Chiefs when it comes to the Chiefs? It was because of injury when it comes to the Eagles because he has a circle going back in the net Hey, bro, if you good enough to me, I saw I hate when y'all try to double speak like that if you're not to get to the Super You don't have to win this boo. Let's cut it.
I said man Going up in the huddle it can't handle I was gonna say we Eli Manning proves that if you got if you make it to the Super you can win this boo This whole career is about that. So let's cut the noise. So my thing is when it comes to this team is round two, bro I'm sorry. I know patching my homes is the greatest quarterback I've ever seen but that only he's undefeated He's gonna be undefeated moving forward.
The wrong guy losses in the finals. Mm-hmm. I'm saying like so like what are we talking about? I just don't see I just don't see this roster doing it for a couple of reasons that spike said like first and foremost I don't trust Jalen hurts at the end of the day This is a quarterback lead and you're gonna have to put the ball up at some point in time at some point in time Like I'm not saying the majority of the game But at some point in time Jalen hurts his arm is gonna have to do something to win the game And I just don't trust Jalen hurts more than Pat my home Also Andy Reeve is better than everybody on that coaching staff for the Eagles outside of Vic Fangio You know, I'll put Vic Fangio up there, you know, I'm saying but the way that we've seen Kansas City win games is is a clear indication that they can win This game it doesn't matter if it's a blowout.
It doesn't matter if it's close It doesn't matter if it's under 30 points The only time that they did that was just in his last playoff game all fucking season all season So it doesn't matter how and then here's the thing I don't disagree Nick with The Kansas City Chiefs have not seen the likes of a saquon barkler at all like he is different right And they get backwards hurtled somebody this regular season we ain't never seen no shit like that We don't see no longer that being said I think that's the reason why Tyree killers no longer a cheat and they paid Chris Jones They made the right decision there and I'm not saying that they're gonna nullify sequins They want is that great? He's I think he's gonna have an amazing game But I think when it comes down to it we see Chris Jones make time he plays Every time defensively he is their Pat Mahomes defensive. We need them Not even a sack do we need a hurry do we need this what do we need and Chris Jones is there for them? And I think that in this game the biggest game say cause never been there Jailyn hurts was there before but he looked kind of suspect You know the same he lost no you can say it He was pretty great in that game besides the now the miscommunication Rewinded a fumble that's a miscommunication between Sanders and him.
That's not just on I don't believe you lose a game first half. That's just all I know is this is that Pat Mahomes all he knows is Super Bowls to Shannon's starts point. He is desensitized to the big moment and we've seen him be the most clutch outside of Tom Brady So to me I can't pick against that. I don't give a damn How did that damn Philly team is which I said for two seasons now?
They are the best team top to bottom outside of the 49ers, but I'm not picking against my home I just can't you know my one thing I'm just like looking at it's just coming down to situations and I just feel like I can't pick against patreon homes Like as much as I want to like say yo, we should beat these guys like my heart tells me Yo, we should be these guys by three touchdowns by my head is just telling me like it's just situations and it comes It's gonna come down to a minute 13 seconds crazy shit. We're up by like three and they're just driving and I just don't know if we have What it takes to stop You got 26 bro, I believe that we need to win that game. I just also think they have Question that we're real quick what makes you question that kid we tell my patreon homes Whoever do is the best person we've ever seen play this position Nobody ever play corner back better than passion my homes So yeah, if you come down to it and I'm playing the best team ever I still give the best player ever a chance. I give him a chance But like we said we speak of hypotheticals if it comes down to the one drive bathroom homes I get it, but I don't think it's gonna come down I Could see it happening The scariest thing to me is I don't know what way I would want the game to go like I'm scared of my homes feeling free And just being you know if we're up like 17 to 3 is on the half I'm scared of my homes and I'm gonna lose them just let some passes rip that I would let it rip and And playing free or do I want us tied up in like a grudge match who's gonna blink first white type of heavyweight battle But I was but I would I would leave with the I again again just because we say he's the best doesn't mean he can't move that's all I'm trying to say And too, I was saying this a black super bowl so it don't matter to me and so I'm saying that even if Patrick my home does play free Like you say it cute.
I don't trust Xavier worthy. Stay okay It's like you told me last week that wasn't even a catch I had an opening about it I Really want to go back the reason why I just feel like It's pain is a because it just looks like we should demolish this fucking team But it's just the QB and the coaching staff of the Chiefs that is just it puts fear into my heart bro I'm not even gonna lie to you because the commanders when it was 23 to 34 They were driving they were driving and they just turn the fucking ball over right And he was and he was finding Zach Earth in the soft zone and that Earth was killing us all game So if I believe Travis Kelsey is a better player And if I believe that there's a better offensive mind on the south side of the field I just think it's gonna be really close until the last second and that's just the separation is my home's got a ball With 58 seconds. They need to get a feel goal You go touchdown and that's just a deciding game bro and adding all the dumb shit big's gonna happen But regardless the players the player we've seen I can understand if I was saying that Pat like in a patty was undefeated in the Suible I would I would be been heavy on Kansas City I agree so but I think that when you're a different pedigree when your pedigree is championships and championship or bus is what the Chiefs they have on their bulletin board every year at the beginning of the season right OCA's height we're building for championship the Commanders they weren't supposed to be there So the fact that they were undisciplined and got out of their own, you know got out of their body a little bit And that's kind of the testament to their youth and their experience I don't know and I'll be shocked and I'll be rooting for it But I'll be shocked if the Chiefs get the balls punched out of them like that's like that's a little bit that will be uncharacteristic to me Championship team that's not going to have you absolutely right you I think going back to what you said in the sense of I would love to see a three-piece. I think that would be Wonderful to watch it.
I think it would be dope. It's just I've searched up and down. I just can't find it I've looked to find like how can they win this game and what was it in this game against the quality of talent and cohesiveness and That's how they win the biggest Andy Reed the cohesiveness in your right they do have petriums and I get it I ain't tripping up nobody saying it. I just think that equals a focus and they're coming in here with one thing on their mind They've been saying it all year every time they ask them a question if you watch them They'll tell you the same thing we got we're not done.
They even understanding saying it works not done They've been saying it the whole time. There's been bullets and more material all year This has been the point that they've been trying to get to you got a bunch of people playing for more than just You know you got Josh where and a couple other players that are paying for contracts that bond I'm convecting a lot of these guys got stuff to play for and not just here and these guys were crying because they were not crying like Oh, mister championship. They crying like genuinely like man I got shot, you know I'm saying and I think that you see a focus team that's focused from top to bottom I'm not just talking about you know, they've been they've been seeing all the talk all year They've been hearing it. They've been paying attention and I'm talking about from Nick Sierra on their own down So I just think that you got a team that is prepared for this in it.
No, no, I'm just I'm not on that part This is gonna be You know Eagles would be just as focused so I think in terms of mission focus both teams will be mission focused the Chiefs won't this three P so I think they'll cancel each other out there and that's where I go to talent talent. Yeah, and that's where you start The advantage we have decided advantage at running back. I would say wide receivers I think D line is better Questions Nick who got the better quarterback who got the better coach That's my I'm just saying like Again, but they got the Avengers, bro, and you just got Thanos I'm excited to see Super Bowl because I do think that everything that I've been saying about Patrick Holmes I'm sure because you should think a lot of people think about a lot of people I think in a way that y'all are thinking the Eagles have the better team the guy said corn Barkley They've been playing well lately and they forget in their patch of my homes is that nigga? So he got it so he got it all wrong.
It's not even that we got Kendrick Lamar playing at that That's up so that the double down on drinks great Hey, and on top of that move people with his ass My favorite part of Super Bowl week has been James Winston in his interviews and Talking I don't have a good time watching James. You've been crazy with this point. I Did I Before we get out here, Nick you wanted to double back to the Miles Garrett trade That shit was funny as hey, I got a homeboy in our Cleveland he died hard Cleveland fan rest for the cast everybody on saying he always getting his insta reactions to all the shit The man he just he he's hurt he's angry and hurt because it's like my nigga like we got the number two overall Pick we can make some shit shake this time, but he's also hurt that he understands why he wants to leave Yeah, they blame it to shine to everybody blaming John whole hardly a Cleveland It's that kind of it pigeonhole them now if the shot went came out there and bald out You know that that's a whole different conversation But the fact that he has been arguably the worst signing in NFL history And then they still owe like if they were to cut him a hundred and seventy plus million a day cash can't do it You can't do it. So my thing is this with the Cleveland Browns blow it up You know to say you already got the number two pick you can go get another top 10 pick in this draft And in future drafts by letting go of miles Gary and just reset everything draft the quarterback let the shongo next season of the season after that You know to say keep him away from the team as far as possible, but it's Reslark time.
Yeah, I agree with you for a little in a sense of its restart time, but I disagree let the song go now I take care of over the second pick and whatever picks that I can get with my house near in this strap to make me better immediately I'm going to do that. I was gonna say you'll take him in Dallas I mean we'll take them for the Yes, the same with Ken on well, I don't know if he was gonna mention Cooper Cup But they've got he's they're saying that they even pick up That contract to get him up out of there why is cool because somebody about a trade draft guy We'll take him in Dallas today. Yeah, I think he's worth the fourth. Yeah, I think he's worth a fifth He has not been healthy the last three seasons and I'm sorry man I'm being biased black his mother.
He's why why why why he's he's a white receiver dude like oh god He's like I'm not I'm not I'm not a dude you you I'm saying like it's a fifth as far as like a little We talk about a bottle I think I know You could even say white white receiver I Will I read these super chats, but I just want to point out that Tucker case has been weird. Can't leave undercover. No, no, they talked about it And I'm not a little bit to push back a little bit watching as a quarterback Okay, so clearly so clearly here in the sports world there is a ring of rubbing tugs that do just be going to Let's just be honest here, bro. It just seems like whenever somebody's in some money trouble or organizations Don't want to pay niggas they pull your dirt out be like alright Let's get some of the girls from the rubber tugs some of the models and now it's like alright get them out of here He's not I'm their favorite Robert crab that shine wise and there's a deeper dark of criminal link in that bullshit But it's just it's just No, there's our free he's doing some weird shit out here No, I would say I was saying I was saying Q was like I think he's either They've been around it so long I just think that that's how the business goes if you pay a little bit extra whatever Because Ken Tucker should have tucked it in I Got some young to do some crazy shit Oh my god, I Say is that my sister's got you they just gonna tell no kicker Too many flavors at this point, but this is there's a group chat We all seen that IG model who is flying around the world she ain't got no job She got no And some I'm getting my my a mousus license girl you in the same you in the same city see they strive I ain't believe that bullshit get out of here.
Yeah Well, he was definitely falling off last year And we so big doors media talks about specs as if his defense is unstoppable when in reality They gave up 29 to the bills and 35 the last time against Eagles describe how they could have trouble with Really They did my thing is this though Lou is just like Spags like this I'm saying like spags defense is really I'm going to zone you up and I'm gonna blitz you He'll do man a man area now that he can't do man a man in this game I think he'll be a fool to do that so he's gonna have to go to zone and he's gonna have to just rely on the blitz That's not enough to me for this team I think that the thing about spags and the reason why he's so great because it's not about suffocating beefins like the Steelers Beal Curtain the Bears for six or even the Ravens the Ray Lewis and Reed Ravens. It's about timeliness about When they need a play he calls up the right play at the right time to get what they need and it's more of a them But don't break they've been more dominant as they've been drafting more defensive players defensive players defensive players But it's not about being this suffocating defense. It's about making timely plays and him making the right call That's what it is. That's a good point by people like we just seen with the cornerback blitz We all questioned why Josh Allen didn't get that out there.
He didn't see it He's bad call it perfectly and then the guy walked out and did it executed partially boom And Lou I fuck with spags. He you know he from he from you know the Giants. He got Eli two rings My thing is can everybody and a mama know about this damn blitzes. It's not like he's doing something magical like That's why it's time we don't Know where it was coming from and that's what I'm talking about the right call at the right timing and also how they disguise it It looked like he was just playing man-to-man oftentimes defenders when they know that their numbers being called and they're the one that's gonna be Blitzer they show it they get answer whatever this guy look like he was just gonna drop back and coverage and all of a sudden He came and nobody saw it coming people can ask you one question if his fourth and five in the game is on Online, what do you think see if I know it's gonna call he's listen?
I know everybody's talking about that play, but I saw one of the offensive lineman for the game said that Spags have been dialing up that look the whole game and he was dropping back in zone and in that particular instance this time He came but he had been seeing the same look so they got confused and that's why they slid the offensive line You said that I was like okay, they're gonna lose your heart So he slid the offensive line, that's what the love is so he could feed me They can stop James Cooks I was like I don't know how to go stop James Cooks like I was a good one to get back in I agree with you I was a good one to show them being chapped I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm gonna join Kerry and Katie with the Warriors I'm sorry I heard they got a lot of time to put the band down That's a thing we didn't mention Wait that's a thing we didn't mention y'all talking about Brian leave it like Brian you still own the G-leet team I'm gonna let you know right now if if Brian is the only reason why the Lakers should keep LeBron or have a chance to keep They need to let it easily under trade on the trade on the region That's the only reason on top of that. I'll say this bro. Hey, Brian go to stuff, bro. I'm looking at his basketball I'm gonna be Don't you be engaged in this?
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Just say you trade it random Davis And I would honestly just stop talking about it at this point because it's just it looks worse the way he's talking about it Jason can't even know like come on Oh Like All right