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You're listening to the Wisps wasatch in wasatch investigative studies wasatch investigative studies a paranormal science show Which apparently is you got another acronym for a super natural hour of wood. Why you doing this to me man? Lemon face wine face Spear fingers jazz hands. Hey, they'll be no spare fingers or jazz hands on the show.

Welcome to the wish show I am your host castle to my right. We've got our ever favorite shoeless lurch to my left. We got ten the slob whisper followed by D. Anne Hello, you guys are also quiet my head hurts.

I work. Well, you so quiet I haven't found anything meaningful employment to say yet. So you're not gonna talk like so I'll talk just right now Sunday and we have peaches silent dawn. He's being silent.

Hello, and we have tennis love whisper You know, just him twice. I know but I'm gonna say hello to him waiting for him to actually say something something there we go Chris Ben clean. No caffeine welcome again Yeah, I was gonna yell because I'm gonna click like you're The best part is the other day. They're like rock star's around sale at the fresh market for like 10 for ten dollars And so Katie mrs.

Castle about a whole bunch and she got one in a bread can that we thought was gonna be delicious But it turned out to be watermelon so it's been sitting in the fridge for a couple months because no one there's drink I'm sure there's people out there that like watermelon rock stars. Well, they're weird and the end is drinking it which will be I'm weird. Yes. Yes.

I am can go really racist with this. Mrs. Castle And our show gets cast and castle doesn't like black or is either Ouch went there did we Mrs. Castle I told her I told her to bring me something to make my head I phone at home and that's what she brought me was the watermelon I know it was we had concocted this plan over the weeks to get you to drink that To see if you have like the wallpaper text me and when I get home I'll get the joke to well you guys will know if it kicks in when I start texting like to anyone trying to illegally share files with you Yes, let's broadcast illegal fire.

It's called file sharing not pirating. So what has happened since our last show well interestingly enough Our last show was recorded two weeks ago But actually we went up last week because we had there was some technical difficulties, but we managed to get our show We got it. I don't know we got it out. But it's kind of nice to you guys were basically it shows three weeks in a row Don't get used to that.

It's still gonna be every other week. That's when we've been recording us every other week Like we talked about today. We're going to talk about psychic attacks We also had some investigations over the past couple weeks that we can probably talk about just a little bit The best part is the first investigation I end up going to this doctor's appointment for my knees So I got really bad knees and the doctor He was awful. He wanted to talk about nutrition for like literally an hour We didn't even look at my knees which kind of irritated me, but during the doctor's appointment I kept getting text messages from the end going we need you we need you here now So I'm gonna let Jan lead off and talk a little bit about that investigation And we'll go into that investigation a little bit.

Oh before you do I have that Iovolus app on my phone and I actually had your name come through Castle and there was also the word knees really right at the same time to No, that was at the second location that night that we went to that's interesting I've always kind of had I've always been really skeptical about phone app ovelous stuff But I was getting a lot of relevant stuff You know, I I've gone back and forth on just the ovelous in general because some stuff just seems really completely Non relevant I really regret having left my phone at home because I would pull it up And I've got a log of all the words that were spoken and one of them was Anna Which I know isn't the same thing as Annie Randy I'm looking to you, but I have a feeling that maybe that's why it was there came up as I said I've been on a lot of investigations works had some pretty relevant words come across that I'm kind of on the fence on the Ovelous I used to be kind of super skeptical of it. I'm officially on the fence I've not jumped off the fence to the other side, but I'm officially on the fence So again, tell us about this investigation So this investigation was interesting. I made two and the first one I called the gal because we had to tweak sometimes And she was a little slow to email. She had a tweak to It was interesting because when I called her as soon as she answered the phone I could feel that there was something very malevolent that did not want me talking to her Wanted me to hang out which I've never felt before I usually don't feel things unless I'm at the house And so I just remember thinking this is gonna be bad and when I was talking to her She started out talking normal, but by the end of our conversation she was talking million miles an hour and Like she was nervous and I thought this is gonna be good And then the day that we went which is about two or three days later, since I left the house I just had this kind of a foreboding feeling Again, I usually don't feel that until I get there, but that's just like ooh this would be interesting And I know that our group as a whole have had scarier creepier Residential investigations, but this was the creepiest scariest one that I personally have been on I was gonna say that's essentially that you say that because when I finally did arrive I was I got there at the tail end everyone was kind of in a few way for me But everybody who was there was saying that that was the creepiest investigation they had with the exception of the handful That's who had gone to the house in Twilla the house in Twilla Those guys are like this is definitely the second creepiest, but everybody who hadn't been there chocked this one up is probably their creepiest The thing I noticed with this person at her house was that you were like downstairs investigating and we Because Deon was downstairs investigating and I think Tim was with her too and Amy another investigator and I were sitting upstairs talking to the resident And I would ask her a question and she would just talk about a million miles an hour Yeah, it had just these weird convulsions too, and she kept saying that she was you know sensitive and kept Just rambling on and I would I would listen to her talk for like five minutes And then I realized that she didn't even answer my question So I'd asked the same question again So you know like how long have you been experienced this have you have you been experiencing these these problems this activity?

And she would just start talking and talking and talking and talking but not answering the question and that I found it really frustrating You know just trying to get a straight answer we asked her several questions You know for different reasons and it seems like she was never she would ever just answer the question It was always roundabout and she would never own up to anything everything was just vague Viewing works, but she would never own up to anything or just give you a straight answer and yeah I agree with the alert. It was very very distracting As I was on my way there. She was not Chris Ben clean Yeah, tell me kind of somebody activity you guys experienced while you're there just so I wasn't there I got there at the tell-end and kind of helped clean up the mess the best we could right we all went down to the basement first thing because That's where her bedroom was and that's where she was said that she was feeling some things and through some Door there that was shut and and you could just tell that nothing that was down there wanted you to open it And lurch finally went in and the scalp put her head and she goes oh my gosh She says there's usually a Ouija board there, but it's gone It was just like a food storage room where they had game stored and just like yeah Crockpots and holiday decorations, but they had a little little area that had some board games And she popped her head in and she was like oh my goodness There's normally a Ouija board right here and it's missing. Yeah, so we spent a lot of time seeing if we could find it And then at one point Caden said you know He says I looked over at silent dawn and he says silent dawn wasn't silent dawn So there was a mask in front of him we identified three to four Type three is over there What else we determined that she was possibly involved in some Witchcraft wisdom, but also her did she admit that to you guys?

Yeah, she did think didn't she I don't know if she did You're right. She didn't tell I don't think she did it was Kate in that picked up on it He said he saw box that was labeled soap making soap making supplies And he didn't open it up. He said I think there's objects related to witchcraft and Scenters box and it's excited a really thorough interview with her before we left And that was one of the things after and she didn't that's up to that But the other thing too is that Tim and I were upstairs by our self later on and we were walking around and we were trying to see If we could locate the Ouija board and there was a room upstairs that was locked and it was the room of another roommate there Her mother's life partner was living there as well and we knew after that that that that's it had to be the room where the Ouija board was Well turns out that she was one of the Ouija board So I think she had mentioned to her mom and her mom's partner that yeah, she was gonna give us the Ouija board to dispose of So I'm pretty sure she took the board and watch it up in her room I think so too. So was the clients border was the roommates board was the roommates.

Okay, I didn't get the moms partner Well, and that I mean in the way the scallows answering questions that Jerry's out it made very well have been hers Yeah, and it's interesting. I've not been through the audio yet This is actually fairly recent investigation And for those who are wondering I've caught up on all my audio except for just the last couple of a station down We're for you. You're pretty recent. Let me give you a gold star for your shirt How many hours of audio are you shutting out shut shut shut it?

I'm getting there when I got there to the house I started walking up the front porch and probably about 30 feet from the front door I could kind of feel the the ickyness. I mean you could feel the kind of foreboding From about 30 feet from the front door. I got in the house and these guys are sending me text going I think she might be possessed. I think she might be pitit possessed is like a group text Do I miss all that because I turn my phone off?

I mean she came and sat by me and I got the repelling feeling that I get when I'm in the you know Neuro type 3 and then you watched her eyes and sometimes it's like oh there she is and other times it's like and that's not her and it kind of went back and forth See my assessment was that she was on drugs or she was schizophrenic to be honest We had probably a little bit of column A a little bit of column B and a touch of column C Based on kind of what I was seeing when I got there And I've not been terribly I don't talk about it a whole lot on the show But I think anybody who's well for a while does know what my profession is And so I'm used to seeing signs and symptoms of drug use and so I immediately noticed there were those signs and symptoms Which be consistent with use of methamphetamine and I do you see that as a proctologist? I didn't know yeah Well, sometimes it stops you up a little bit Anyway, but first thing I did when I got there is I she was in the basement And I basically kind of ejected everybody out of the room with the exception of I think lurch I had you stay I think I Tim stay But I boot you were to do you stay again? I think technically I was booted but I refused to go because I'm that way okay I can't remember I just there was a lot of us there and so I just I just figured she kind of needed a girl there I tried to minimize the number of people in the room because I was gonna ask some very personal and pointed questions And so the one thing I immediately asked her right off the bat was you know a drug abuse history what she admitted to And then I asked her if it was methamphetamine what she admitted to Is we got talking she told me she there was no witchcraft in the home that she was aware of But again, it doesn't mean that she's telling me the truth I didn't know the information that you passed under that caden had it had and it would be consistent with some of the other things going On in the home and then there's talk of the Ouija board and so ultimately There was a one room down in that basement that I was kind of drawn to it had a crib in it and some other stuff And that room had some bad juju going on for lack of better trauma You walk into that room you can just tell her was something in there and it was something very dark And I think overall how many dark entities did you guys have in home? We figured four and then multiple type ones and the hands will effect you something that was chucked full of crap probably the other Ouija board And I I'm not I'm not sensitive by any means But I felt the same sort of presence in the the room with the crib because usually when there's no level in spirits there they go for the most easy targets and that week of the week of the vulnerable and that makes sense with an infant And that's you know kind of what we've experienced in the past two when there's you know something dark something evil in Household and they have a baby.

That's usually the target is is the baby right goes after us Or if there's someone who's got a mental handicap physical handicap they tend to target those Boy, I think you just defend I'm sorry. I didn't mean that a negative way I'm just kidding. That's kind of No, but I mean and you can just be ill or you know if someone's using drugs That's going to weaken your sensibilities right nothing to do with your I know I just can't even say defend everybody No, that's a no in all reality it is It's the easy targets and if you've got a mental disability or you're physically weak or then you are an easier target than somebody who's There a hundred percent So after we interviewed her I actually did some physical tests checked her pulse her blood I didn't check her blood pressure check pulse did some I test stuff Check a couple of offices didn't do that He did look at her throw me. Yeah, that's right.

I guess I did look up when I was entered down her throat There's things you're looking for drug things and there was consistent signs of the drug use Ultimately the day though with that particular investigation. I was very honest with her Methamphetamine or really any drug use lowers your natural spiritual resistance to those dark entities Well, spiritual and physical right and so it just it helps open you up to that kind of stuff if someone's really has a major addiction It can open those doorways for dark things to come in and you couple that with somebody using a Ouija board in the home or witchcraft Or all three. I mean you're just throwing doors open. I was like here.

I will weaken myself and hey Why don't we have a party and so what we ended up doing is we ended up doing a little bit of a cleanse and Just to put it out there. It was something that was very very temporary and we told her it was very very temporary We I don't think we really even did the cleanse though. We gave her a blessing and we blessed and that's what I meant by It was more we knew that doing anything would last maybe an hour at most And so we didn't want to go through the whole process because she she again She was kind of denying a lot of stuff. I thought yeah, this is happening So rather than waste our time we kind of Put a bandaid on in her mind not that we didn't want to help but unless she wanted to help herself It wasn't gonna happen I don't know if I'd necessarily use the word waste of time because I mean we're always willing to come out and help But you can only help someone as far as they're willing to help themselves Right.

I mean There is still drug use and that Ouija board in the house and that was explained very clearly as long as drug use continues as long as the Ouija board Still in the house and especially if it's being used that anything we did was gonna be very But I guess I guess to clarify in her specific case it would have been a waste of time that day and to be honest with As investigators especially when we go into help somebody because our residential Investigations are really really different than say our public investigations if you've been on a public investigation with us It's a whole different ballgame compared to residential investigation There's something sort of similar but when residential we are going into help and not spend a lot of time screwing around Stirring stuff up looking for activity. We're going in trying to figure out the problem is yes Like what's here? Let's find the word of the problem and and solve it. Mm-hmm You know there is some investigative technique involved with that But probably a lot less than if we go into that's in Chris Miller asylum 49 or for factory And I think of all the residential that I have been on most of the people well first of all didn't have the The as big a problem as a scalded and they were a little easier for lack of a better word But she seemed in denial and really reluctant to help herself the hard part to at least from my standpoint It's hard and frustrating to go in when someone's seeking help But they're not willing to do the things on their end to get the help right fix my problem without me having to do anything I mean she was all I gotta go should I move out it's like we got help but it's like no you gotta get rid of the problem Yeah problems gotta go you gotta go with people who are playing with Ouija boards You know and ultimately I think some of our biggest failures as residential cases and I use the word failures very lightly has been those cases where The problem is so deep rooted there at the location that until they're willing to address it anything we do is not gonna take Tim and I said that several times before you showed up to is that after just talking to her preliminary wise and just doing a little bit of Investigation where both like there's there's something else going on I can't do that conclusion before I even talked to her because we first got there I went outside with Caden because we didn't want to know what was going on the house We kind of want to figure out for ourselves and then we went to the basement and I looked at Caden and I go There's something she's not telling us like yeah She was a drugs and then it was about it was a couple minutes later that I said the same thing you don't like she's holding something back Yeah, cuz she kept talking about how she doesn't use drugs You know lied to us about that like I didn't even talk to her at all and I'm just I'm trying to watch the situation like saying like oh I'm playing Christian music and I read my Bible Which I don't doubt but there's you know you can paint a picture, but there's there's another side to it I was talking to her on the phone.

She said before we went she said You know my mom and her partner accused me of being a drug addict and it's really just these you know You know evil spirits and we get there. It's like well apparently you are a drug addict Well, especially cuz that's I was very clear and pointed when I talked to her and she admitted at that point I don't know if she'd admitted it to you guys at that point or not No, I can kind of I've got good at talking to people sometimes just kind of laying it out there She kept saying I feel I feel wasted. I'm not wasted, but I feel wasted. I feel drained I feel wasted, but I'm not wasted I was like okay Then why do you keep bringing it up because I wouldn't have made an issue out of it unless unless you said something and you're you keep bringing it up So so that was our first investigation and I then immediately followed up by another one and that investigation I don't know how you felt about it to him or Deann, but I actually really enjoyed that one I thought we actually accomplished quite a bit kind of the back history on this particular family is they've had Activity for basically years.

Yeah, since the mother was a teenager it sounded like or even younger And at one point I've been held down They had a dog that was barking at corners. Just kind of nothing. What other activity did she talk to you about? And they would see Uh, people shadow people.

She would often see someone that looked like her daughter, but was not And then talking with her daughter who's 20 years old she said that uh, I guess went a few years earlier when she was a teen Um, when her friends had come over and kind of gone into a basically a a transfer lack of better term and said her grandma Basically was I'm using my air quotations for those who can't see my fingers Uh channeling her grandma and saying that she hated her and you're not really using air quotations though. It's it's all it's hey It's the illusion of the radio. Okay, there we go. Okay.

Now I use my air quotations But it was channeling her grandma and saying that she hated her just just kind of stuff like that She was using the grandma's name. Right. That's where she was coming from as far as how it was Like Something like that. She's like Mary hates you.

Maybe it's like you may use me at you Right and said her just totally had a character for her friend. Um during the course That is for the dog use Oh, that's right for the head of his drug use. Um, anyway through the course the investigation we identified A few objects that had attachments to them basically Um One was a creepy pink Like caribourer teddy bear in the kid's room the daughter actually said she didn't like going in that room was really creepy And I walked in was immediately drawn to pink caribou Um, so I was drawn to the head It was like one of those it was a brat said that you do hair on for yeah, it was creepy Just because heads are creepy like mannequin heads are creepy that pink caribourer that was Creep that was not creepy. It was anabel creepy.

It was not a creepy doll, but it was Yeah, I was gonna say they had a rag again doll behind glass on the entertainment center and I pointed at it I was like that's just like anabel because the real anabel is actually a regular dandol, right? And uh, yeah, I said, okay, it's anabel But that house we went through cleanse. Um, no, I was hoping you would tell the story about the teddy bear They were trying to get the attachment away from the teddy bear And as you were trying to get it off. Oh, yes So I brought the teddy bear to caden and I said caden what is up with this bear?

There's something up with this bear and he kind of dismissed it at first And then uh, as we're going through the house again a second time I went back and there is immediately drawn to that bear and I said caden there's something up with that bear and he looked at it again It goes oh, you're right and he caden moves energy. Um, I don't know how he does it But he like moves stuff and so he was trying to get the attachment off this bear But as he's pulling whatever out of this bear there's a plastic bag like three feet away and all sudden you just you heard it crinkle Um, there's nothing around it nothing to make it move Um, and he basically said that what was using that bear what was attached that bear tried to jump Into this bag that was over there, but there's nothing around it. Nothing to make it move But I mean you definitely heard it move it was it was kind of a neat experience in of itself But when all of a sudden done, uh, we've located a mirror in the bathroom. Um, I think lurch I think you left before we got to the bathroom here really bathrooms and mirrors that's We're here Because you know, we just don't belong in bathrooms.

Uh, this particular bathroom here though Everybody who went in there looked at this mirror got I'm detaking sarcasm from you Not at all. Okay. Just want to make sure want to make sure it's awesome As we got into this bathroom though, as everybody looked at the mirror, what was your impression of the mirror down when you looked at it? It felt like someone was looking back at you.

So something's really looking back at you Yeah, I went and looked in the mirror and I got kind of dizzy Um, there was but there was definitely something going on with that particular mirror. There was two of us that looked in the mirror and they looked at Everybody else and we're like, I don't get it Don and I both looked in the mirror and looked at each other and we're just like I don't see what they're saying. Did I do it? No, I would have done the same thing.

No, the only thing I did feel that night was there was when we first got to the house Oh, there's something else that happened to you that way. Yeah, when we first got to the house Uh, I was drawn to the back office like sewing room that they had upstairs Like I went in there and kind of looked around. I didn't really check out any of the other room upstairs Just that one room and then we went downstairs and while we were downstairs again Like I left the group and went back upstairs into that same room Like I just felt like there was something in there like I was drawn to that room and uh, what we found out later were Afterwards was there was a big piece of I hate cats. Sorry Do you know what cats?

I don't I'm a dog person. I'm a dog person. I can't say I hate cats. I I'm a dog person I like cats, but cats are very Opininated and independent and dogs are loyal and they'll come to you and they'll suck They're your best friend dogs are loyal.

Sorry. Anyways. Yeah, I flipped off the cat Dogs dogs know like what I can't remember the meme It's like dogs know like 47 commands and know this much human language human age seven Cats don't put up with your shit human age 42, right? Exactly.

So so I kept going to this room I didn't know why like I kept feeling this need to go into this room and we found out later that there was a Piece of petrified wood that they had picked up from somewhere near the esclinic ground staircase Apparently there was a Native American spirit attached to this piece of wood and he was he was just he was kind of pissed off that He was in a house that he didn't recognize wasn't he's asking him how I got there Why was there and from what we were told by caden because we offered to take the the wooden to go put Back and forth and he said the spirit said nope. She's the one that got it She has to she has to put it back and has to be somewhere meaningful He's like this is kind of your peace offering and after that like he kind of just mellowed out the rest of the night I'm just kind of watch this but yeah, I just thought it was interesting before I knew what was going on in that room I just kind of felt that pole right now something in that room a couple times Sorry something else interesting happened to you during the cleansing which I think is interesting something interesting you think is interesting Do you work do you work for the redundancy department of redemption? I may have some redundant things that mean this contact call it that podcast English English are hard contact was a terrible movie with Matthew McConaughey Well, I don't want you to tell the story So I don't want to tell too much about it So you get to tell about the interesting thing that I was scared and I ran I ran so far away I'm pretty sure that's not what happened. I just ran I couldn't get away Something couldn't get away, but it was yeah something actually couldn't get away again Caden is good at moving energy.

I'm not exactly sure how but I know he can do it I've seen him do it He started pushing me We went to one of the bedrooms in the basement We started the cleansing process and I was standing in the doorway of the spectrum and he was on the opposite side of the room He started to have a son it wanted his hand just put that other it was in my pocket So I wonder you just have to see me do yes So he started doing his thing started focusing and kind of pushing his energy And he was forcing the sanity out of the room and there's only one way out That's the doorway that I was standing in through Tim So it got it got a little pissed off because it was being forced out of the room But couldn't leave because I was standing in its way So I just remember standing there was Caden was doing his thing and it literally felt like someone had taken a knife and was stabbing me in the chest Like I just started having really strong like stabbing pains in my chest. So I pulled out my cell And I've been doing these burgers. Yeah, what's your left arm numb? Well see I couldn't have cheeseburgers I can't have cheeseburgers because I recently had surgery on my mouth twice So I'm eating mush basically, but but he was just get to the good part where he said he pulled out a cell night wand and Oh my god, that's the biggest thing ever seen and I was on a registry describe it slowly describe it slowly Kids like my touch it Now I got myself an eye out and put it where I felt the pain and was just kind of trying to use it to draw the negative out of Whatever I was trying to make the pain go away and can just look at me like you need to get out of the doorway It's like I'm stand by me.

What have I been great if you told you that before he started? I was upstairs and I heard castle we need you downstairs Tim's in trouble So I went running down there and cadence that was funny because he's pushing out the door He said also Tim just took so I went out his pocket and just jammed it and he's just I think that's when Caden kind of put two to the other like oh, yeah, probably gotta have to move I think it's funny that you send you ran I can run kind of a shambles after you went to the knee doctor that told you nothing about Your knees hey, I spent an hour learning all about nutrition and we looked at my knees for like three minutes after my wife said What about the news by the way if you guys wanted reference for a terrible knee doctor I mean email I'll shoot an email and who not to go to for your knees, but if you're interested in nutrition He's probably awesome. So I just want you to know too I'm not sure if you're done with your story or not, but I I'm still completely skeptical about the whole crystal thing the Positive thing out of it though is that it has piqued my interest and I've actually picked up a couple books on From more of a scientific standpoint on geology and mineralogy and I bought two books on rock-hounding And so I am interested in in the scientific aspect of it You know selenite and tourmaline and and obsidian and all that stuff and it's fascinating But I just I'm still not convinced yet about the you you left before this but at the second house I actually handed both the daughter and the mom some selenite and both of them like I don't tell people what it is or why I'm handing it So much a here hold this and though like interest like both of them People my selenite one you want to touch my stones The big and black and smooth Selling its white it's pure. It's it's crystallized salt.

It's gonna make you feel good So I end with my very white. Oh, yeah, all right. It's getting on moving on So I'm gonna steal your soul later Brandy for that kind of careful Yeah, so it might be in jeopardy. I've known her for ten years who says I haven't stolen it yet Makes so much sense.

So I'm sorry. You're saying that's a good way to suck a cat pack You've got two girls holding your ones so So what happened well both of them about the same time like Dan was in the room when I handed him the stones And they both said like they just felt like something kind of being pulled out It's not the first time I've had that like experience I've handed selenite to people before and we talked about it like it was Ashley's aunt and the same night Frank from the family tree Yeah, we've given him some of my without explaining to him what why we're doing it or what the selenite supposed to do We don't even tell them what the stone is we just hand it home and every single person is just how they feel like something's being Drawn or pulling out of them like they just feel like they're being flesh and they feel better And I'm not just crediting it I'm just saying like you know action speak a lot of the words until I experienced something like that I'm just I'm still a non-believer. I can actually Take both sides of this because if you would have asked me 18 months ago about these crystals and stones I would look to me and I told you you're totally utterly full of shit. Yeah, there's no.

Yeah, it's like oh, yeah crystals We make weird gestures at you and think you're another but You're American. Yeah, you can't use British slang if I jump up and I use it properly. Did I not? Yes, thank you.

I love that I will debate that both of you are religious and you guys think that taking sacrament will leave you to heaven But yet you haven't experienced that and you won't until you die, but that's what you believe well Now let me finish where I'm going with this though But about eight months ago I would have been like yeah crystals okay, whatever Crystal math maybe but as I've been Bumps more and more and more I just see and it's not like you know the heavens open and like a beam of light comes down and shines on a crystal Oh, crystals are awesome, but you see enough on each the investigation of them doing this that or the other that you start to kind of put together the pieces It's you I've started become sold on it. I'm still not a hundred percent there But I'm like ninety percent there at this point I've got a book called the crystal Bible and it's got like a bajillion minerals and what they do and The other crystal Bible to know I look at it and some of them like oh, yeah, this don't here's cancer, okay, whatever You know, I don't know that necessarily believe in that kind of stuff But I mean when we went to the home the first one we talked about tonight I've got a big obsidian ball that's probably about the size of a softball just one just one just one ball That's right. Yeah, the cancer one of it's really really big. It's the size of a softball.

It's compensating I've held it for quite nice Wow He made me hold his ball to the touch but I took it out of the bag that we keep it in and Yeah, and immediately go to the sack. I'm sorry. I said that too. He's like we took it out of the bag He's like squeezing motions with him Nice.

All right, that's enough. Yeah, so I took it out of the cleansing bag and Dan kind of goes Oh, what was that in it's like really yucky and nasty and actually bit the family tree I think was its last place it had been but uh Tim's making fun of me because I've got my hand still out like I'm holding this big obsidian ball But I took out a son at wand and I put the son at want to ward it because a son at wand in theory cleanses crystals No, you didn't I did. Oh, did you do it? Yeah, cuz I took my obsidian away from the lady to cleanse it because you've been holding all day and you pulled out your obsidian and you're like Here touch your wand on my ball Everybody's gone.

There's a reason why no one under the age of 18 is allowed on a investigation Everybody's made it like 30 minutes in this episode like podcast or being shut off We probably say that if we wanted this point because nobody's gonna listen anymore I say what a royal on anyways, but I could actually and I've never really noticed this before but when Tim did that when the ball was touched With that so I want you can actually kind of feel Something you could feel something it was a whoosh you could feel a whoosh for lack of a better. It almost blew your hair back It was so full. Yeah, yeah, the best way to describe it is if you have like static on your hand and not before you shock But you kind of feel that that pull from your hand to whatever got the static on it You guys understand what I'm saying no because again like like I said I probably the best description I can get more experience. I'm only when I'm twisted enough So I felt like there's a static charge there that just kind of dissipated all of a sudden is probably the best way to put it like a magnet Yeah, and so it's kind of like when you get x-ray then you feel the like the hair in your arms move It happened on my got actually direction when he's at the horrible me doctor and I could feel the zappa that they said was static from the anyway I just I still feel like you know this this could all be Psychosomatic in a way and again, I'm just playing the devil's advocate I'm not just crediting what you've experienced, but I don't I don't buy into it all It's a little too new age eat little too.

It's because you haven't touched castles ball I haven't your wand. I'm definitely interested in the scientific aspect of it I think it's cool how crystals are formed and the chemical structure of it all and and I mean the Variety that that are out there and I've done a little bit of research of it lately and I'm fascinated by it I guess I'll try to serve last ten minutes is I understand both sides because I've been on both sides And it's one of those things and to be honest with you from the psychosomatic standpoint It very well could be I mean brandy's mention taking sacrament a minute ago called blind faith Not blind faith you believe in something that's what you believe in cuz for all we know we're all gonna go to hell Symbolic and we believe it and so since we believe it It's so and it very well could be with the crystals that maybe they are just inanimate crystals and because we believe because there's enough belief in intent behind it They function as we expect they would I'm still skeptical too I just have people to see what doesn't anything about seeing enough positive reactions from it again It could be psychosomatic, but I've seen enough people go what just happened So I don't want to be a dead horse because we still haven't gotten into the psychic attacks Which is what the thing is about however I do want to just throw out one thing out there I think that everything on the earth has a purpose and I don't think I've got two parts of this so hang on I'll try to make it quick I don't think that God just put lots of pretty rocks here first to make jewelry I think that they have a purpose and like castle I was very skeptical about this but the more I've kind of dealt with it and experience it's like huh and I kind of needed a religious Okay, per se and I got thinking about when you're reading the Old Testament The breastplate that Aaron wears and it's got the 12 different stones for the different tribes of Israel and they're all in the name I'm in the Bible You know what the names of them are and I can't remember what it is and I keep thinking I want to look them up and see what What properties they have in the in the crystal world and see what they do I think that would be interesting so that's kind of what gave me the push over the fence to think Huh anyway, there's actually and I may talk off the air about this just for a fun conversation later But there's actually some LDS some Mormon references to stones and crystals Intro history that might be kind of interesting to that charm But it's kind of a really narrow topic that probably given the audience we have would be initially appropriate here So I'll save that for you guys personally later And we'll just drag brandy along for the fun of it So lecture it won't be like With real stones. Um one thing about this investigation that no one here except Tyler Donner and I are pretty too It was actually the sister of a lady that Dawn Sun works with oh, yes, I actually knew that so We went so this investigation was Tuesday night and Thursday night We went and we play magic with him every other Thursday and we get there and he says hey Dan he says do you happen to know if whatever you kicked out of the sister's house went to the lady works with house because that night Let you know after the investigation would have been over she felt like something creepy was staring at her So we might be making a visit to back to the first house I'll see what goes on and given that the one sister is 11 there very well could be a connection there But that will be for later date to figure out so if we find out anything we will podcast it later So we will keep everybody pretty to investigations are doing as always we don't reveal our clients and to be honest With you we don't really even talk negative about our clients at the One investigation we talked about the first part just we want I want to really highlight the drug abuse And we de-board that kind of stuff which is why we brought that particular investigation up the way we did and how we did Just because it's important to know that if you have stuff going on in your life It's negative that's inviting crap in unless you're willing to stop inviting crap in that There's nothing we can do about it from a professional standpoint people call me all the time and say why don't like my son's girlfriend I don't want her to the house trespasser Well, I can't dress pass her because if I do trespass her and your son invites him her back into the home She's not trespassing or cuz she's been invited back in and it's the same thing with spirits We can use my air quotations I'm using for real cuz you guys will call me out on it We can trespass the spirit from a home But if you turn around and invite it back in or something else and house invites it back in through words thoughts or actions Which we've seen several times yeah, then there's nothing we can do to help if it keeps me invited back in you know I'm fascinating is that all of our clients have the same name. They're all Jane and John do I just don't understand right?

It's weird. Whatever you do don't name your kid Jane or John do where you gonna get goes all right? So let's get on with the topic of what we're gonna talk about this might be a little bit of long job You guys are ready. I hope you have your tensions man ready.

Let's talk about psychic attacks now again Where you going she's gonna pee? Yeah, do you need to pee? Do you wanna take your microphone with you? All right You know long enough or she got a 40 foot cord.

She could take it with her sweet. Yeah, let's talk about again So I'll just take something on her. Okay. You won't say anything.

He's I'm done. That's true I heard you might actually speak at home sometimes although I I might call him the you care to elaborate on that Yes, I speak at home Not his head in the kind of stage of this all right, so let's talk about a Psychic attack and I think out of all of us here brandy is experienced probably more and more thoroughly than the rest of us I don't know about that Tim has been well the time of two but brandy's been well a timer 25 Thanks, I've been there for every single one of them In fact the reality is also brandy's a medium and any medium who's actually medium has some level of vulnerability their Openness to seeing experiencing feeling the spiritual world. I think actually opens them up to being More apt to be attacked and to more vulnerable to that attack from the spiritual world. Did you wash your hands down?

That was awfully fast Sure don't check her hands are they moist? Yes, they're moist. Okay. Um moist.

I have sanitizer Yeah, don't touch any equipment here dank's really you watch your hands for real All right, so psychic attack mediums are more open to it. I don't know I've seen Brandy attacked I've seen be or the other brandy if you will I've seen her experience some psychic attack. I've seen caden experience some psychic attack Lucy made me feel weird once I was gonna say I've seen Tim experience a psychic attack Ashley I've seen the ant experience that have you ever experienced? No, there was that lady at Paragon last year to the family tree I've actually seen a couple of different individuals at the family tree experience it and actually the first house we talked about at this podcast we were when we're searching for the Ouija board I had to kind of lean up against the wall because I was starting to feel like I was gonna pass out The closest thing that I can think of to a psychic attack on myself is that one time at Fort Douglas when a negative spirit attached itself to me And I felt that um, but yeah, I mean I I you don't have to get off on a religious, you know So box or anything, but it's like, you know, I wear sacred garments that are you know I have a I have a belief in my religion.

I'm active in my church and I have a Testimony my religion and I wear sacred garments that I received through ordinances in the temple And I have faith in those that they act as a shield protector from me But there was that one night where I felt like that was following me around So I kind of feel like those the clothing that I wear kind of acts as more of like a spiritual protection And that's kind of where I'm at. I've experienced the same thing That's one of the reasons why I don't run from something Yeah, that's exactly why it's like if there's if there's a building on fire so to speak air quotations That's why I'm usually like the first one to the door like I'll go after it That's kind of good of that ladies house exactly like oh the spirit doesn't want us to go in there Yeah, I can't do people outside they're like oh who's gonna touch the door like excuse me and I open it up Well, I came down and did the same thing because I walked downstairs and saw three people standing outside the store and they're like It doesn't want us to go in there. I'm like, oh, excuse me. Yeah, open the door and walk into the Yeah, exactly.

I see that's what's kind of my thoughts. I don't care what it wants. Here I come Well, we weren't we were just kind of assessing the situation and see and I can honestly say I think I've been Siggically attacked one time and it was the night where Ashley Freaked out and it's though I played it in my step where she Basically got attacked and I went back down the basement took a group back down there and we're sitting in the dark I hate stick and as I was down there I actually was starting to feel kind of lightheaded And I put up with her for about five minutes. I thought you know what probably under the circumstances probably not good to hang around To see what's gonna happen.

So let's talk about some of the signs and symptoms of psychic attack I'll be curious to see if any of you guys have felt this one Sun stomach ache or nausea and you guys got in sudden stomach ache or nausea on an investigation Yeah, nausea did you say not nausea or nausea? I have had nausea not a stomach ache. Yes, sir What's investigation was it? Building sign building Remember that yeah, you were you were dry heaving mm-hmm.

I felt fine until I walked outside I started on my hands and he's dry heaving and that's what I called you for a blessing I remember that he actually when I got there was in tears anyway, who knows Tim? He's a big guy. He's a tough guy and Tim doesn't cry unless Tim gets by the only times I think I've ever seen Tim cries when Tim's gotten spiritually wallet I'm so convinced that wasn't that for me. I think it was trying to get to me to use me to get to somebody else I would concur with that based on what I know and everything else I would agree with that All right, second sign and symptom of a psychic attack is stabbing pains around the chest shoulders and back Yes The other night apparently I do stuff I shouldn't Yeah, the other night in a lot with the way shoulder Since that negative energy removed to be had any shoulder pain stuff, okay last Tuesday the investigation Okay, so that's still that's actually kind of Tim has an interesting thing He had something happen to him during an attack where he's a poor crook Anytime anything negative or bad is happening Tim gets a really sharp pain in his shoulder in one particular spot And Tim can be on the other side of a building sorry As soon as his shoulder starts to run to the other side and he always shows up right when something's going sideways on us if he's not in the area The robbing headache Again, it's been cyclically cyclically attacked at the beginning of this podcast Again because I drink a big old drink all right a feeling feeling disoriented or out of it all of a sudden See that's that's the one that I get and that's the one that I felt as brandy phrases are hand missing missing time Missing time And that's kind of what I was feeling in the basement of family tree that one night is I was starting to feel kind of lightheaded disoriented And again, I don't get attacked and so the fact that I was starting to feel stuff like that It had to have been pretty good and so I got everybody out of there I don't have to remember that or not I was like okay, we gotta go cuz if I'm feeling it then it's bad Crankiness or irritability.

Yes. I've seen that one a lot people get feelings of aggression I'm glad with you a couple times and say empaths particularly are open to that one They'll start feeling really cranky. We've had other people on investigations for cranky It's only it's only because Tim forgot to take his mittle That happens and this one kind of goes along with it That's feeling angrier on edge for seemingly no reason. I will do the on edge.

I haven't felt angry before but I felt on edge. I've felt sad Which leads to our next one feeling like you're beneath a heavy cloud or like there's a weight on you. Yeah feelings of worry guilt or anxiety yep, I get that one tightness in the chest or feeling like you can't breathe Yes, that's what I was feeling at that house on Tuesday that first house Okay, those are all kinds of different signs and symptoms of psychic attacks And they get to the point where like we talked about in last episode you'll see the eyes change the pupils tend to dilate to make Yeah, I look almost black very rarely is there any actual talking that goes along with it. I'm brandy looks at you like There's someone else looking through her eyes.

Yeah, let's see the people's Okay, I've seen Kate and top drink psychic attack He knew what was coming on. I mean I was there brandy was there be was there and he knew it was coming And that was a it was an interesting experience usually when brandy gets attacked She just kind of stares off. I mean she'll look at you, but once she looks at you. She's not looking at you I mean, you know, it's not her that something else is looking at you and it's it's a creepy thing in the world I wish I could describe it.

I have I've never been there when it's happened to brandy Peaches I mean there was that one time at Fort Douglas, you know, you've mentioned it But she wasn't looking at me but silent down and I were driving in Provo and the lady was driving in a car I think I've mentioned this on a podcast before but for some reason she turned and looked at me and I just thought that is not just a woman looking at me I've never seen or felt so much hatred or anger in my life. It really creeped me out for a couple days And it's yeah, and it's an interesting thing. Usually when it happens with brandy. She loses time.

She can't remember what happened Yeah, when you guys are taunting things all these time mental text you what are you doing? I'm losing time Yeah, that will be interesting because if lurch Tim and I are in an investigation and Peaches is not there Pre-adically, we'll get a text of what are you guys doing? This is like I just lost 15 minutes that I can't remember and then the Latin texts start coming Yeah, I don't know how to talk about those on the podcast. I don't know if I can let them know you want I don't talk about them a whole lot just because it's the kind of I've experienced it and it's creepy as hell's But with the scariest things I've ever experienced doing this.

Yeah, so let's talk on it for just a second And I don't I haven't shared it to this point because crystals and a lot of stuff aside This one just seems insane I don't know a better way to put it until you've experienced it And I think everybody in this room has gotten those texts I've gotten more than the rest of y'all but we've seen I put more stock in the the Latin text than I do Well, when it's Latin and to when I read them it's exactly what you would expect when they when they're talking like oh my gosh This is like a little angel. Yeah The first time I did language the first time I remember happening I think I tried to text you to learn to castle and you guys respond right away So it actually got on Facebook and text the entire team Yeah, it did a group text and then I only did that a couple times and after that they were pretty much direct Directed at me after that. But what was happening like I said, I haven't talked about this because I don't want people That we're insane, but it's very real and has happened. So you talked about energy crystals I don't think you can get much more insane after this fair enough I've been on the phone with you all that was happening and so yeah, and that's the interesting thing is and I've actually shared these with a few people Here and there but what what happened is I would suddenly get a text message either over Facebook or a direct text message And usually it comes from Brandi's accounts But Tim has actually been with Brandi when these messages have been sent at times and they're usually in Latin.

They're usually threats She has no knowledge that she's sending them. Yeah, she has no knowledge that she's sending a record on her end of the phone Yeah, I was just gonna say you know you look at her phone and it doesn't there's a there I've taken her phone like it probably five minutes after this happened before you know anyone like told her it was going on And they weren't there on her end. It's only shown up on our ends Right and usually spend before really ugly investigations when we initially did Cleve Evans house Which by the way, I don't know if I let you guys know or not But I've been in contact with Cleve and things have been all has been well at Cleve's house as of lately We can talk about Cleve. Yeah, I actually talked to a couple days ago and all has been well at his home so Where was I going with that?

Oh what before Cleve's house? I got a text message and read something to the effect of every time we turn Around you're there this time you'll lose You'd be best to decline this battle type of thing and it was probably not two or three days after we first went to Cleve's house And clean things up where we got a Latin text that said you win this battle, but not the war Once we got a hard time kind of pinpointing where it was coming from because we had like four three or four like really negative residential investigations all at the same time so it's kind of hard to pinpoint it and I think we were able to determine it was It was Cleve's house after we got it all milled down and to be honest with you Lucy the family tree has sent me a text That one was sent to me through brandy bees phone and it was interesting because I got a brandy bee pair at Lucy's Lucy hanging around her work or her home or whatnot and One night about 11 o'clock. I got a text message that says Lucy's outside the front door And so me being me text it back and said well get her in front teeth What's she doing and so I get a text back from brandy bee that says what what are you talking about? Like you just sent me a text that she said no I didn't she sends me a screenshot It's not there and brandy bee and you guys are everything my work work You don't know brandy bee, but she's not the kind who would price legit like that Yeah, I mean you could tell from her text that she was genuinely confused as to what I was talking about I've actually screenshot and I've kept all these different texts that we have gotten it's actually been a while since we got Got some I think it was after Please house that got died down last one.

Yeah, I believe was in Spanish and that was earlier this year. Yeah Sorry, I'm gonna kind of Lurch after you left that second investigation we had the echo box going and we got Tim's voice coming through it Some spirit like that came out of his phone. I've always came through several times since I was came through about Latin and we got German that came through Cool. I don't know if anybody else heard it But like while they were cleansing like I was kind of it was weird because I felt like I was kind of in a trance like focusing on this thing More than I should be and I kept hearing a voice come through saying Tim help us How is that was I just grown through that microphone?

I probably did Oh, I can't hear that too. It's like what is that like a large? That's like a large I kept hearing like something actually calling my name asking me for help And I just sat there shaking my head no at the phone like I don't think anybody else noticed But I I heard them asking me specifically by my name for help and there was that time at Fort Douglas where I was downstairs It was on a chunk investigation Chungo's actually there I think you and a couple of the people were there and I was asking questions in German because there's a German soldiers headstone right there And we did actually get through the spirit box. We got a response in German saying very good You know so good in response to some of my my questions Have one of those and then there's also the time building Yeah, and there's yeah, there's also the time at a that to will a house where the the homeowner didn't speak any Latin And he kept saying I'm hearing these voices and they're all chanting the same thing over and over And I was like and I asked him a couple probing questions in Latin He just kind of shook his head like I don't know what you're talking about I have no idea So he didn't actually speak it but he went and got a pen and paper and wrote it out and it all translated out correctly to this one's ours Priest yeah, in fact, it's interesting because a lot of times when you don't even give entities they refer to myself lurch mark as priests In fact at both investigations that we did Caden came across and use the term priest as what the same for saying, you know taunts basically at me Well, it's interesting because they say I mean they use the same Verbage same vernacular same verbage and to be blunt.

They're incredibly blasphemous more blasphemous than probably any Human being could be and what they say as far as with regard to God and things of that nature stuff that you're the standard person just Wouldn't think of to say and I'm not easily offended, but you read some of this and it's like it almost takes your breath away. It's so Foul it's the extra system to life Yes, that's why the movie extra scares the crap out I mean because it's actual stuff that can really happen and you watch your flax time I'm not scared by that crap because I know it's Hollywood, but the extra system can be really did happen exactly the Just really did happen but it's that kind of stuff, you know It's very real and it's kind of comes back full circle with the psychic attacks now. There's different kinds of psychic attacks So there's not just you know from evil negative spirit psychic attacks You can actually focus and this goes back to the whole crystal thing with a whole psychosomatic thing is you can actually focus ill intent towards somebody and cause them and do a psychic attack person against person So if I look at you and go oh again, so that I want the end to feel sick You know if I focus that enough and long enough I can actually have a negative effect on Dan's Health to an extent You know, and this is the kind of stuff where if you listen to the radio You'll hear chung it and just talk about it all the time about how they kind of go on people's feelings Yeah, you can essentially get somebody the evil eye and so you can actually psychically attack somebody else And this goes along with curses and everything else I mean we human beings have the power to actually affect the world around them not just through direct physical means But through mental and psychic means as well. It's just something that most of us don't recognize haven't practiced But we can do I mean if you look at dark magic, that's what dark magic is It's basically a combination of people focusing their will to do something coupled usually with some negative entities Which kind of help them along the path a little bit?

Well, I had I have two ex-husband's that were both so incredibly negative that What does that say about someone don't know he's My compositives Anyway, they were so negative. I literally experienced physical ailments that went away after I got to work and that's also a psychic attack It's different than what we're talking about with You know a negative entity psychic attack, but yeah, it can affect other people's health And it even comes down to just our own personal thoughts if we think negative things You are gonna start having health things if you think positive thoughts Well, they just had studies that show the people who think positively are healthier than those who do all the negative It's the same thing So Brandi what are your thoughts on all this since you're the one who can see and experience all the stuff? I'm gonna call you out Well, I don't like you said I don't Recall any of my psychic attacks. I hear them from you or from Annie or other people But no one real because none of those on that list of really accepting anxiety and a lot of thirst I've been wanting to usually really thirsty in my experience I don't know if you remember this or not So usually still kind of out of it But usually when you come out of a psychic attack, you're very drained Usually hungry and thirsty at least in my experience I don't know if you've noticed that Tim and Lurch Well, that's actually in that psychic class that I took what last year here ago And that's one thing that the instructor said is to always make sure you've got water on your investigation because it's something like that happens drink water Interestingly enough and I'm gonna throw this out here because this is one thing that was taught me and one thing That we probably need to start doing more of cuz I never think about it until after it's too late Chocolate chocolate is supposed to be really good for helping about you back from a negative experience That's not just that's not just a psychic attack but any negative experience chocolate for whatever reason kind of now again From a scientific standpoint chocolate actually the chemical structure of chocolate is very similar to the hormone that your brain secretes when you get the feeling that you fall in love Which is why a lot of women love chocolate because when you eat it it reminds you of those warm fuzzy feelings That's the fact very similar chemical wise to that the hormone that you get when you're when you fall in love And see I would buy a hundred percent into that whole scientific end of that That's I mean, that's that's what I do I mean I have to take more of a scientific approach to these things Which is why I'm really skeptical about the crystals.

I just I need to see more proof to it So here's what we need to do is we need to eat lurch possessed and then we need to poke a muscle and I want them to obsidian whatever words I'll come to investigation one night without my garments on and oh dear. Yeah All right, anybody have anything else you want to add on psychic attacks? I have a question for peaches I know that the type three entities do not like women So in your experience when when we've been somewhere where there's been a type three do they tend to hang more menacingly Minusingly around women or do they tend to avoid women? Or is there not really a pattern?

There's I haven't noticed a pattern but they you are right They tend not to like women just because back in the local days I was just gonna say it's a political reference women were not treated as equally as men and so it's that same premise in in the hierarchy Well, I think it even goes all the way back to Eve exactly where he was given permission of Bruce to bruise his head Yeah, and so I think it goes all the way back to there No, sorry, but I haven't noticed a pattern either way I just some reason I tend to get my bum kicked for some reason or other And I don't you bomb I I can't say that even though that I have only witnessed cave and getting walloped once It wasn't according to what you guys say not the same kind of attack as I have No, his was I witnessed that same attack and it was very different It was actually using him to speak more of a channeling rather than it was more of a channeling than attack It was involuntary. It wasn't something that he intentionally did he knew it was coming But it wasn't something that he likes it here. I am taking me it was a violent From what you guys said, I've gotten very I'm quiet, but I get I can't get violent Well, and depends because sometimes you just sat there and just kind of been out of it like a fork Douglas You just start wandering towards the bad building My four Douglas experience with Randy when she was moving it's like human bodies don't move like that Yeah, and then I was just courting right it's like people don't move like that and then also just recently at the Super secret location that was super secret super secret where Where took three of us and I was just listening to that show again last night Then when I was on a run I was listening to it It's like you can hear me even say it took turning to you castle like it took three of us to hold her down I know how hard it was to listen to super secret with gauze in my mouth I was I had my wisdom to how does gauze in your mouth affect your ears I was laughing so hard that I was trying to keep the gauze from falling out of my mouth because I just had my wisdom to hold Okay, that's not me saying it just so people know because I know when I did the how do you get down? Castle went and like talk to a couple people that listen to the show like you know you're super annoying So just you know it wasn't me that said that last time all right exclusively me Those attacks they've all been very similar but different I'd say they're probably about 80% the same about 20% different and let me make that not confusing since I came out That seemed really confusing so you will see Brandi's eyes will change so she's usually kind of almost like she's in a trance But if she looks at you her eyes are not her Sometimes she just sits there and does nothing And the best way to describe the eyes is they're just dead Yeah, once you give me that evil smile It's like they're just like it's really hard to explain but you look at someone's eyes and there's kind of a light There's kind of a brightness and when it's not her it's like they're dull and dead and black and like I'm saying on occasion We've got a really creepy smile.

That's not brandy But like the time when we close the portal in the field that one took three or four people to hold her down because as we Was it you tend to grab her by the arm and she's like through your arm off? It was a large and myself I try to grab her right arm and she knocked my hand away and we're trying to grab her left arm And she knocked his hand away and then that's when she started running and they had to go chase her and I was holding her And that's the only time I've actually heard her say something as she said let go of me And I said not happening I was gonna say and And this is happening. Mark comes out of nowhere ripped pants and pants. Yeah, and the two horses nearby We're going crazy.

Oh the whole circle going absolutely I thought they're gonna jump over that fence. That fence was probably good like 10 12th high Meanwhile, I'm whether going to hope my neighbors are looking out the window thinking that this part girls being set up on by Roving bands of rapists exactly but like reenacting scenes with clipper corns at this Super secret locations again She was like again It took three people to three strainer until we could kind of get her whipped into shapes I speak Fort Douglas She was just out of it walking like all weird and contorted walking in sprinklers I mean came out to carry her off the venue. I find that interesting that I start out like you said my first one was That what Douglas and I was contorting and now it's to the point where it takes three people to hold me down Well, no, not really see I can do it myself It's just when you're scratching the shit out of my legs But I let go that it takes it takes the other two to grab you as you're trying to run from me from what Annie describes I think that the way you guys are why it takes three of you is not because I'm a strong person It's because you guys don't want to hurt me in the process and that would be accurate to me We're trying not to I mean if it was if I was pretty sure anyone of you guys could hold me down by yourself But it would be Most of the time I've been in No, you were pretty strong I would say are you giving us permission to give you black irce you next time if we need to I guess that's what needs to be done, but from what Annie describes when she tells me what things happen I don't know how you got your rich Here's what I'm honestly at the super sickle You guys don't you're trying to do it in a is Gentlemen is possible, right? So here's how I've been wearing pants instead of shorts wouldn't have taken off three of us because I had her just fine until she started She's here's here's kind of how I would describe it from the house I'm looking if it was worked and I was playing or gender-resilorch is fighting I definitely would be nearly as gentle I would be grinding his face into the carpet and I would have a knee in his back and his arm twisted up all tight However, I almost want to pretend like I'm possessed so I could just rest with you See if you can take me castle.

Are we gonna wear tights? There's gonna be jello Give him a tickle fight unit tarts Oh dear, I know we're excuse me. I know we're gonna fight tonight. Excuse me.

I pulled poor baby oil all over my body I didn't even try to lube me up and that's just not cool And so I would say that yeah, we probably are trying to be more gentle because we don't want to give you a broken ribs or carpet burn face I know that Mark said that he was he felt really bad because he felt that maybe he could have possibly hurt me However, I would still say you're stronger than you should be given your seriously your stature and size jinx size I'm gonna disagree with you. She's pretty strong. No, but she I don't want to use the term in humanly strong But stronger than she should be um, so yeah, we would I would take into account that we have don't reflect me That's a type three strength I'm talking about Yeah, we have been gentle or try to be as gentle as we can so as to not injure you however, I would say that it's What's the word I'm looking for lurch unusual? It's like the way she was a natural right?

Unnatural like the way you were moving it for it was like you're not supposed to be moving that way It's kind of like okay. Yeah, I mean you're a strong person. You know, you're not like a weak lean But it's like you're just a little stronger than maybe you should be it's those weekend yoga classes. She's she's learning flexibility.

Yes I've just got a jointed. I'm just glad I'm the one with the horse. I should have a rape whistle or we would have been I'll explain things that they nothing to see here folks. Why those four dudes trying to wrestle out poor girls on the ground Perverts just like up those secret locations Yeah, except for there.

I wasn't worried because they're doing the awesome Wow that just went weird Investigating and exploring And here's the thing and I would say to anybody send a lot of our listeners actually come on investigations Usually the chunga hunts. I know we've had some contests where we've invited people again. Are you passing gas or what? You look at me she's sharding her pants That's the same thing like my niece makes when she's moving Kind of stabbing pain in my head again.

It's like I because if I couldn't let my eye maybe it'll go away. See we need a whole priest and a young priest I think we need land text from the answer here My grain the pleuribus um You just read that off a quarter. Do I need to get some one? I want to get some toilet papers which need your my brother I don't want to touch your cell neck.

Oh dear. Don't touch your sister with your mom I passed on a past investigation that you were holding on to his mom very tightly. Oh dear. Yeah, he was downstairs Wow, it's that far.

It's that long. We must be getting close to quit in time. I think I think it's a good time to wrap it up Real quick though before we do wrapping up Remember my credo to me. Don't be a fool wrap your tool.

Yeah, it's time to be done. Goodbye folks We're not done yet. I'm still talking with some stuff So real quick those who invest in with us Don't be scared of psychic attacks because quite frankly I've seen him happen on almost every public investigation We've been on it just happens. Um, can they be dangerous sort of I would on a dangerous level put it maybe a four out of ten And basically don't go stunt by yourself only if we're tonight I'd say to give you a high five to face Don't go stunt by yourself If you go stunt with experienced people you're gonna be fine And if you start feeling weird if you let somebody know you're gonna be fine If you're on an investigation with us, uh, we're safety net If you investigate by yourself if you do stupid things like we do boards Um, if you're on an investigation, you don't tell people when you start feeling weird You're kind of setting yourself up for some problems.

Um, and it's just it is what it is But if you guys have any questions shoot us an email, I know there's probably a thousand questions that we didn't answer Uh, we kind of went along on the investigations and kind of went short on the psychic attack stuff But uh, hopefully that kind of opens up that stuff up Tim let's plug some stuff. Let's plug some stuff. Uh, so Uh, let's talk about it. I'll start.

I'll start actually. So john's app is book demon haunted Is now a viet and I put it on the on our facebook page, but it's available on amazon Um, I went to order it and looks like it's kind of a pre-order kind of a deal, but it's there And I much as it 1995 no shipping if you have to prime whoo nice So there you go. I'm gonna wait for it to come out on iBooks on my iPad You Apple lover one's that you're looking for apple salad. Thank you very much.

No talking about apple products. Um, i'm trying to make products I like apple products. Uh, yes, john's office also if you haven't picked up already yet haunted by the things you love is another book of his Which is really good talks about cursed objects object attachments. Um, got copy of it.

Just haven't read it yet. Yeah phenomenal book Uh, the demon haunting one should be good as well. Uh, Tim tell us about the paranormal festival That's happening on october 1st What what time are you gonna start doing that because i'm gonna be in st. George running the marathon that morning But uh, if I get back to salt lake in time, I might stop by so the the event time goes from noon to 9 p.m Um Tickets are if you buy them in advance on their website and it's just utopairanwafest.wickssite.com I'll post this on our facebook page again.

Um, we'll post this periodically over the next few weeks Uh tickets to $10. Uh, if you pre-purchase 15 at the door children under 12 and under are free Um, they're gonna have some really exciting guests this year. Um, I know One of them is Elizabeth saint who is from the tv show ghost of shepherd town. She works with a knit groff on that show Um castle is gonna be one of our paranormal panelists.

Yes. I am. He's gonna be doing a strip tease on the panel apparently Elizabeth's saying is also gonna be on that panel. So that's that should be fun.

Um, There's gonna be several there's a several guest speakers. Uh, there's gonna be a ufone zombie panel A psychic panel and a paranormal panel. Um, you can come down and meet some of the local paranormal teams like ourselves Bad ass kid, although i was hosting the event Bad ass britoupt losses. Oh, so bad weather assistant that we podcached in that event.

That's what i was wondering what time you're thinking about doing that So maybe i can make back to solid time. Well, I think we're gonna be doing is I think we're gonna have our equipment up there And we're just gonna be grabbing people all day and just doing interviews Okay, and then what we'll probably do is figure out which stuff was good and which stuff sucked and put together an episode Uh, or maybe even a couple episodes based on okay, they're okay. They're ready. It's not a live podcast.

We're still we are No, I think it's gonna be I'm I'm not smart No, I don't know if I can be able to get alive when I make it coherent and be any good I just gonna think it might be noisy with it's gonna be it might be kind of noisy and I'm just concerned we'll have a lot of Downtime as we're grabbing guests and I you never know what you're gonna get interview wise I mean you may get so how to get in the paranormal field. I like stuff Um great. Uh, so you just you never know what you're gonna get. Um, and so I think we're just gonna add it together You know, I mean when we bring in people like paul welch.

I know what I'm gonna get if we bring in Uh, paul wheeler who's gonna be on our next show, you know what you're gonna get but if i'm just grabbing random team members from random teams I just don't know if that's gonna work out why not did we confirm that paul's gonna be on the next show Paul wheeler should be we should be I believe I told them they're on date and I'm trying to get a hold of them to confirm the correct date That's right. I think I remember you talking to them last time I told them the 21st But it's actually the 28th so for those who don't know who paul wheeler is he's the owner of the company called grim ghost tours He does tours of haunted solid city basically. Nice guy super nice guy. He also does some uh public concepts and various venues Um super nice guy but has a lot of experience hunting ghosts a lot of good stories So he's gonna be on our next show.

Hopefully we set to get some scheduling worked out because we messed up on the date We told him met him when we did the asylum 49 investigation. That was a ton of fun I love to go back there again some time. Did you go in the grim ghost or center without ours? No, that was ours But I think I might go on a grim ghost or something because that was so much fun.

I love that venue Yes I think the first time I was the only time I've been there It was more just kind of feeling things out like where are the hot spots gonna be and then by the time I kind of knew where to go The the night was over so next time when I go back, I know where I'm gonna specifically You know room five demon hall Go towards is actually where peaches and I started investigating with uh It's going through his public events before we met you guys and I still go on his events So he he gets into places that we just can't feasibly get into ourselves for just our team because they're too expensive Uh, so I'll go and investigate with uh with him quite a bit actually and I've actually I've got him on some of these uh Investigations as well and to be honest with you, I'm not I don't think any of us really in this group We're above paying a ticket to go to a public ghost hunt If it's a venue that we would like to see or if which just you know we have anything going on for a while And so it's just you know what I want to investigate. I'll pay my you know 4050 or whatever dollars to go investigate a venue. You know if I was actually commenting we actually have a super super secret Facebook page where we communicate as a ghost hunting team and I made a comment about a week or two I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot how slow summer is because there's definitely a busy season of slow season to ghost hunting and summer is most definitely the slow season I think it was just out doing stuff and they forget that their house was creepy stuff Exactly, that's kind of my theory too And so I was kind of excited to see these two investigations really because I mean I try to I try to link public events from grim ghost tours and badass Bearout allows and paranormal you they seem to have a lot of uh public events going on that I try to get the team involved in Yeah, and we've done them from time to time, but I'll be honest with you The logistics of setting them up like a big paid event is just more than I like to really get To go on investigation and I have paid for two people to go on every investigation And uh family you pay for me too. No, you have uh silent dawn who is loaded with baked potatoes Um Dr.

Deep pockets speaking of loaded with baked potatoes. I don't even know what to say there is an upcoming investigation that I plan on going on Uh, I don't know if the rest of you will, but this is another paranormal. I believe this is a uh, paranormal Yeah, it is paranormal festival fundraiser event at the Leslie family tree restaurant on sept september Super sacred I'm trying to combine september in one word uh saturday september 10th at 9 p.m Take a price as our 40 per person without dinner uh 50 with dinner You know, it's interesting you bring out september 10th because I think dn has got a super secret Okay, next time we go on a public investigation everyone's gonna be pissed off at me because they're like you even stop saying super See I haven't said it more than like once or twice this honestly for the record. He said every single time I have not that's I think the majority of it has been me Tim and castle so what have I got dianne has set up uh and I've literally been really the super secret investigation on september 11th It is just that is just gonna be this group right here.

Are we going to new york? No, I think as soon as we're off the air outside exactly where we're going and Super exciting ground zero. I'm gonna go around zero on september 11 seriously. Oh my goodness We are No more pop filter for you.

Wow my mic won't fall apart gravity hates you I'll give you guys a little hint. I'll give the listeners a hint of speaking of september 11th We have arranged a investigation of a fire station. We can't do you where? Well, you know if you lose one of two listeners you still have 50% of your audience This pop filter may be in the garbage before this episode.

I think it's um You seem to tighten it. Anyways, finish what you're saying. So we are gonna be investigating a fire station Uh, we can't say where on the air uh, but september 11th and so that should be interesting I have heard lots of things about this particular fire station Um, and I've actually been wanting to get in there for a couple of years Oh, no, and so it's not that fire station. Okay, uh, and so we will be going in investigating.

It should be a good time That'll be fun to report on When I just september 11th, it's actually podcasting night. So we made a podcast earlier or we may have to skip a week Um, we will figure it out. Cool. Um, but it's a podcasting night Uh While you were listening to us make sure you hit up the other shows obviously radio ronin level 22 Breggs guide new music regs guide to sail life on the rocks screw you life on the rocks and your pictures red velvet oreos on my instagram What other shows?

Music, uh runcast are we prepared yet? Addict to athlete, uh, the disney landy show Parker's park. Parker's park. You just be disney landy show.

Um Is that it? I think that's it really just go listen to the show. I said he said he said he said he said you just take kenny so much You just blocking it. I love kenny cold finger in my bed Okay, we're leaving You're listening to the wisps was that you investigative studies for paranormal science They're grown as adults that like to sit in the dark and talk to each other, but they all love their moms So that should account for something

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