“Surviving America”

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Getting it together. But I thought they had this on a lifetime documentary on O'Kellie. They were talking about his sexual abuse and rape allegations with women. And you know, this is the ongoing for the last 20 plus years.

And I just want you to give your thoughts about that. Um, I think that it's atrocious, you know, what has happened. I think that it's gone on for too long. You know, I think that it's a ways to build a wedge between the black community between men and women.

You know, but I also feel like what they're doing now should have been done. With that being said, I still don't. I also believe that, you know, is never too late to try to stand up or have a voice for something. You know, for the most part, you know, I think all parties involved are responsible and have accountability to an extent, you know, but being the power that he had, meaning the fame and the fortune, you know, to keep this going on to employ a team of people to keep this going on, you know, it's just, I just feel like it brings more, um, more blame.

You know, it causes more blame on his part, just as a man, you know. And then he tarnished his own reputation, his own gifts and talents, you know, in the public eye. Yeah. And you know, um, when they were speaking on documentary, we were talking about what specific case was like a leader.

And I don't know how many people feel, but for me, like I was telling somebody, I was like, that leader's like one of those gels in a black community that just can't be tarnished. And I know what I'm saying. And we're not talking about issues possibly pregnant from, and then they had a marriage license and stuff like that. I was like, wow, and nobody like a little parents just therefore anything like that.

And they just let us continue like that. Um, and I agree with you. I think it is atrocious. And I also do think that it's, um, way to divide men and women in a black community.

But what do you think that the divide comes from though? When we talk about the vision on pedophilia and things like that. As far as, you know, I think, I think the root of the root to a lot of the distress that we deal with as millennials, just this generation, a generation before us, you know, it's just a lack of fathers in the home, you know, where it left a lot of women, a lot of mothers to try to do it all themselves. And it's just, it takes a village, let alone just one parent, you know, his story is, you know, his back story is he's been molested.

Yes. And instead of him turning into an introvert, you know, he found ways to be empowered by it, you know, where it, where it allowed him to inflict his pain on innocent people. Yes. You know, and it's just, it just boils down to breaking down the family, you know, the black family from the 80s, you know, he's, he's a product of the 60s, 70s, you know, when all that really started to happen.

And it's just, it's just amazing to me. How far this man has gotten without being, you know, I mean reprimanded is a very soft word to use for him. You know, and as far as the Leah situation, I think, and I'm a diehard, a Leah fan. I've always been, you know, so as far as her, you know, it's like that scandal came out at the height, I mean, at the height, but the very beginning of her career.

And I think her family just wanted so badly and even still today, you know, they wanted so badly to just protect her and get her out of the shadow of being, you know, a victim or a statistic, you know, and that they just kind of wanted her to branch out and move on with her life. And I think that they were a little successful with that. You know, we still were side iron a situation. I didn't believe it as a first as a kid, but just as an adult.

I was like, okay, this happened. You know, and I think that as the black community, we gave our Kelly a pass. Okay, he's in this 20s. He's starting out.

She's 15. They're always together. She's the only one he married. You know, maybe it was just a bad judgment call, but he couldn't help himself kind of thing.

Not that that's an excuse, but I think that that's the past to be kind of lived with for 20 plus years. And then to find out some years after that, that it was another one and then another one. And then today it's like a compound of women, you know that, you know, and I can't say that it's all true. I think that he's not innocent.

I know that for a fact, you know, it's just that I don't think that everything that they're throwing on him is possible true. But with the fences he has none of that even mass 1000 women could come forward. It still doesn't change the fact that he's a pedophile. Yeah, and he really, really, really needs help.

But like I was telling somebody I was like, I can't get on this. I'm thinking to myself as a parent. I'm thinking to myself. Why isn't he dead?

And I'm gonna say that like I'm meeting like what if somebody's touching your child inappropriate or somebody is doing things like that. How can we as a black community just say, I'll be like, oh, well, you know, he's famous. So I'm gonna turn the side that's I'm touching my child. You know, Yeah, that comes with, you know, I think that there were parents that, and I'm just being honest, I think that there were parents that had some very mature daughters.

That's one category. You had some parents that just didn't have control of their kids. Set that category to decide. And then you had parents that were just thirsty and money hungry.

Oh, and you know, and you know, along with their daughters. Yeah, you know, I'm blinded by the fame. You know, another thing about Archalia is, you know, he's a kid. He's he's a victim himself of child manifestation and probably I'm sure manipulation.

So he figured out a way to use that to his advantage, you know, and he's a person that you know, you probably, you know, can get really comfortable with in terms of just trusting him and he used that he's a con man. And that's it. And sad to say, you know, a lot of us just not sharp enough for those things, you know, you're blinded by a fame and fortune. You know, like, you know, people like Archalia and I turn on those on the main ones, for example, they'll be molested whenever young men didn't ever molested by women.

Archalia was molested by his sister. I forget why I turn to say he was molested by, but he was older woman as well. And then they turn around, they have these abusive relationships with women. With that being said, do you think in a black community that we need to focus more on getting counseling or do we need to be more focused on being open with somebody like a parent or an adult when we put in a position like that?

Well, we first, our parents first need to allow us to trust him. Just like his younger brother said, he was afraid to go to his mom because of who it was in a family that molested him. So he tried Robert first, Robert told him, no, that didn't happen to you well knowing that it had happened to him. So he rejected his brother and his brother in turn said, well, hell, my brother not going to leave me.

I know my mom and I. You see what I'm saying? Even though he still shouldn't, but that just goes to show you that I let entire family, he trusted Robert the most because that's what he entrusted, you know, his, his story to, and he was turned down out as no phone on Archalia because he was a kid himself. He probably was just afraid, but it's like the whole dominance thing that you talked about when you lose control of your life and your freedom and your independence, you know, and then you get a chance or you survive that or you feel like you overcome that and, you know, sometimes like a lot, you know, it's a psychological issue.

Of course, sometimes what you do is you try to regain that control over somebody else because it was taken from you. You know, and I just think that that's kind of how he lived his life. That was his relationship, you know, tactics or whatever. He lost control as a kid.

You probably say, you know, this will happen to me again. I'm gonna gain control. I'm gonna be dominant. And that's how this is going to be.

And that's just how it was. And, you know, just like he was in the place of innocence or, you know, vulnerability, you know, or helplessness. That's who he prayed on. So it's an interesting dynamic, you know, I find.

You know, the parents in the documentary, they said that they had no idea what I'm killing was capable of the studies, marriage license earlier and different other allegations. Now, I find it hard to believe that because they might be in after like the parents sold it. Do you think the parents sold their children out to our killing in order for fame and money. I think that, you know, it goes back to just those types of parents, you know, you have some that have, you know, okay.

Now what I don't understand is if you're 18 year old kid, you know, where they're pretty much an adult, you know, like today's kids aren't how we were growing up. We grew up quicker than today's kids grow up. We had a little more freedom. Our kids didn't really pacify us as much.

So if you take that into into consideration, if you got a 17 16 17 18 year old daughter, and she's mature, she's moving around and you trust them more. I feel like, you know, and so you just, you know, as a parent, that's still not good on your part because you're kind of letting them slip through your fingers, you know, but, you know, I think that they're still held accountable to. They're held accountable, but you have some that I think that had daughters that were mature and they just trust them to do their own thing and then you had some parents that was just money hungry and they were chasing the family fortune and couldn't control their kids. It's like, you know, I can't say that every parent was the same type of parents that whatever, you know, daughter that was a victim to our killing.

You know, I don't think that maybe all of them started out as victims. I think through the course of being in this quote unquote relationship with him, the manipulation, you know, he's not, he's not going to pursue anybody he couldn't control. Let's get that shirt. Regardless of how much money they thought they were, he wasn't going to be engaged with somebody that he couldn't control.

He wasn't dealing with women. He was dealing with, you know, young minds. Now you said something very interesting. I want to go back to that when you said the parents need to make it create open space or we can't trust them.

Now, how do you think they could go about doing that? Because I think I got what you mean by that because growing up, it was kind of hard to tell your parents anything because they were very, like, they like to keep family secrets for one thing. And another thing is parents are very, you know, they don't really believe like, you know, you're a kid, you're staying the kids place. They don't have to speak out or speak your mind that much.

You know, I was very different. I can work happen. I was going to speak my mind anyway. Yeah, every kid is different.

You know, every kid is different. Like my mom, for instance, I think between me and my sister, and we didn't have a father in home. So I think just between me and my sister, she's six years older than I am. I was the one and my mom was the same with both of us.

And we were different. So my sister was more of an introvert where I was more out, you know, I would out things. I feel like I can go to her and she wasn't any different with us. It was just our personalities just were different.

And so we perceive the received things that my mom did as a parent differently. You know, my sister felt like she couldn't trust my mom. But me, I'm like, I could trust her all day with my life. I don't care.

You know, it just depends on the kid. And it depends on the parents patterns, you know, how much time do you set aside for your kids? You know, my mom was always home with us when I was here. You know, if she was out, if she was gone from the house, but I was gone, she made sure when I got up in the morning, she was there.

And when I went to sleep, she was there. So she was there when I was, you know, when I say they are me home, we were always home at the same time. So she made sure of that regardless of what she did while I was at school, you know, and that's it starts there. You know, if you feel like your parents always working and brushing you off and always on the phone with her friends or her man or whatever the case, then you feel like she's putting everything before you.

So then that's the first breach of trust. You know, and that's the parents, the parents at that time. They said that time. The kids don't set that tone, you know, not in the early ages.

But, you know, the black community. We have that thing about, you know, what's the goes on in this house stays in this house and yada yada yada. And then that just empowered the pressure to do what they did because then they knew that it wouldn't be spoken about. They wouldn't be read it out.

You know, and I think that that caused a lot of trauma with children that are now still damaged adults walking the earth, hurting other people. Yes, yes, I totally agree with your own name. And you know, nothing is recently, I don't know if a lot of people watch the Golden Globes on pressure people down with the war show about this point. But director Brian Singer who is who had a whole document about called an open secret.

Y'all can watch it on YouTube. It's about pedophilia and Hollywood. And he's got to choose to be an essential president. Kevin Spacey, he went to court and even a white political doner by the name of Ed Buck.

He had his second gay and black man found dead in his home. He's really on some Jeffrey Donald type of shit. And I'm trying to figure out why isn't the mainstream media focusing on all of these things happening. That's the focus of our killing.

You know, it's an attention game. You know, it's all, it was that hand is never the most important news. Never. You know, when you have a whole world to consider.

So, you know, the celebrities that's all behind this arcade thing. I wish these would be this because these are the people with the platform. I wish that the same people would speak up for those deceased brothers found in this white man's home. You see what I'm saying?

Yeah. And it's like, it's nothing but smoking mirrors. You put out a film. Um, well, wait, who put the film out again?

Oh, his name was Brian Singer. Oh, this name. That's the name of the film. They want to go to go and go.

Okay. Go ahead. Well, he's it's like, it's right here in your face. This man is going to go to go for this.

You know, what, but what I can't say is he they're getting the conversation started. It's like nothing happens overnight. You know, it took 20 years for this type of uproar about our Kelly to money plus years. You know, how did he skate through this this long?

You know, I think that, you know, we give people a pass too much and tell us a trending topic. Yes. I told it for you. And I think we need to do better as a people and start coming together.

Cause I don't think cause I'm saying like, it feels like until white people give us permission to feel upset about something. That's what we started talking about things. You know, this past week, I've been saying this whole gender war thing going on social media about black men and black women. They were saying like, um, and you know, I've been hearing black women saying that men don't care because it's black women and nobody cares about them.

Cause I feel like black men do care about black women. And I could be in a minority when I say this, but I feel like black women do black men do have a lot of love for black women. But I'm trying to figure out how can we come back to this type of mentality where women feel like they don't care about us. Well, the black one is the most disrespected person on earth.

Agreed. You know, and that's not to agree. That's not to say that we don't have our black teams by our side. That's not, you know, for me anyway, I would never try to dismantle, you know, a black man.

And that's really sticking by my side. But at the end of the day, you know, when the black men in the fight, the black woman is always in the fight with him. He's never in a life in a fight by himself. Whether it's your mom is sticking up for you, whether it's your sister, your wife, your woman, your daughter, we are always there.

You know, let's go back to the households that's empty of fathers. You know, something happened to me. My dad ain't gonna speak up for me. Tyris, because he ain't that.

He's what I'm saying. It's like the absentee mail in the household. He's not there. And I think that a lot of it stems from that.

It's not blank places. Never that, you know, because that was a breakdown that happened outside of our control, you know, to an extent. Never that. But, you know, you have some frustrated black women that, you know, they can be kind of from where I'm from.

You didn't see the example. So then you don't know how to embrace the example in your life as a partner. So then now you don't know how to raise them. So now it's like, who is he?

Who is he? She doesn't recognize him. He's not there. You know, it's just, it's just a fine line for me.

You know, I'm sure it's plenty of perspectives. But you know, with this arc, anything, I did see a huge dysfunction between men and women, you know, black women, and it's like, Oh my God. You know, how do you come from me? Because I was terrible.

Because I'm coming from the fact that I'm like, okay, so for me, if I see a black woman getting attacked or anything like that, I'm the job in it. I don't even care what the situation is. I don't need another situation. And that's some habit to a black woman or something like that.

I'm doing it down, even if it's not costing my life. You know what I'm saying? But it's a lot of black men that do not feel that because I don't understand it. The black, the typical black man don't have the heart.

He ain't got it in him. If he ain't got the spine, he don't have the heart. You know, it's like, it's not that many of y'all talk. I don't think you're going to be like that.

I just don't understand it because I'm like, I'll take it to myself. I'm like, how can you be willing? But it's what he does to do right here. How can you be willing to die for a hood that you don't know that you don't even own the house in?

But you're not willing to protect the earth where you plan to see what the sea's brought. How can you not protect your women? You know what I'm saying? I just can't get there.

I just can't get there to my head. That doesn't make sense. I just have a value of life to understand what you're talking about. You know, you have to have a value of life.

You have to have a consciousness of self and know that. Yes, I'm conscious of myself, but I'm not the only person in this world and that I need my brothers and my sisters to survive. You know, we're talking about a mentality that's just nonexistent almost. It's almost extinct in our community.

You know, so at this point, it's like we can talk about this, but how do you even change? How do you reverse that? How do you uncondition that mind and then reteach that mind and then live and then not only that, but live by example. Live by example, you know, like if I teach it to you, I got to live it.

You know, and I think the this, the breach comes in is that we want to talk about it, but we don't live it. And so the generation behind us don't see it. So they don't trust it. They don't believe in it.

And so they find their own ideas and their own ways. And it hasn't been working for the black community. It hasn't been working for us at all. So, you know, it's like, now, how can we find ways to change this?

You know, how can we find ways? And I just think that it's one brick at a time, you know, talking and having these podcasts and things like this, you know, it's like this is a brick at a time, you know, or mini bricks at a time, but it's something. Yep. Yep.

You guys to come together. Got to. And also I want to talk about the second year of Jasmine Barnes was killed. She was famous shot in the car.

Why she was with her mother. But I want to say this, even though even though some black man did confess to the crime, the mother is adamant that it was a white man in the shot in their car. And she's been short of our witnesses on the scene. Even though we get reports that they were black man shooting, they were shooting at the car because some type of gay affiliation, which I don't understand.

It's not like I don't know. I don't know. Guys to derive that early. But, but they could pass to the crime.

But my thing is, the point, the point of all this I want to talk was how can we go about protecting? How do you think we could go about better protecting our women as a woman that wants to be protected? Jas, please tell me what do you expect out of black man? Or what's your expectations for black man?

That's why I'm protected. To be present. You have to first be present. That's the first step, Tyler.

Being present and being committed. That's the first step. You have to be there to protect. That was the whole purpose of dismantling the black family.

You take the black man, you take the protection. You need the black woman to believe that she don't need a black man. So we're going to give you this assistance and that assistance and we're going to pair you up with a white woman because y'all are like, right? And that, you know, you're men are no good.

You know, it's like, that's, that was the plan. So we still try to bounce back from them being present, having an idea of what it's like to be present in the home. And, you know, instead of throwing your oats all over the world and being fruitful, like this be fruitful at home. You know, there's no way in the world, you can be present when you have five kids, five in five different places with five other different homes.

That's not how that that's not how that go. You know, and at the end of the day, kids are blessings. You know, kids are blessings. But I don't think that we go in and women to, you know, I don't think that we go in.

We go into our relationships and having these kids with the idea of being one family, you know, oh, I got a kid, you know, this, this is my kid, but you don't ever talk about the amount or the women. This is my son, this is my daughter, but you never talk about their father, like, where he at, you know, where's the mind. You know, it's all about the kids. And it's like, I just feel like we kind of use kids as pawns.

Even we don't, even when that's not our intention, it's just a condition. You know, so yeah, you got to be present. You got to show me that you can be present first. Being fruitful, you know, that's not what we, you know, is that you got men that set out the beef with when they want kids and he want to have kids for five to fifty a year that he life, they want us, you know, plant seeds.

I think you put every seed when they in different gardens. How can you nurture the tree? You cannot. You can stop by every now and then and water it and take a look.

That's it. So for me, you know, as a woman, you know, and not even just as a black woman, just as a woman, be present. We still need that. Yeah.

And I think you just made a better point being present this part, but also being productive and showing some guys. I think I think another problem is, and I love black women. However, certain things like certain characteristics as a whole, I think black women need to get rid of. First thing is when a man says he's a leader relationship, don't come with that.

They say, Oh, no, that's 50 50. No, it's not even letting a man be the man because you can't let somebody be what they already are. I feel like we're the only race of people where our women says that I'm a let him be the man. You can't let somebody be what they already are.

Right. And if you have to let that man be a man and lead and guide you. And with the same token, you know, a man doesn't have to constantly prove that he's the leader. All he got to do is just do.

You know what I'm saying? It's the same. It's the same coin. If you're leading, then there's there is no competition.

There's no way for me to say, you know, you have to lead and lead properly. But, you know, it's like at the end of the day, it all boils down to having a relationship with God too. You can always have that fight if you're unevenly old. If you if you haven't established God as the head as a man, God as the head, then how do you expect anything to follow?

You know, like things have to be in a certain order for production for productivity rather. You should be chasing skirts if God is the head of the head of the household. You know, so you know, any kind of woman is going to be able to come through and tempt you and it's in that. But, you know, you do have some very strong, we all do women.

And it's not because we're there. We're like that on purpose that boils down to, you know, taking the man out the house is like it's so much of that goes to that because you know, you have generations of women that had to do it all. And try to be this and try to be that. So it's hard to let up.

That's a that's an unconditional. We need to take place. But then I'm going to let somebody that don't have spine and heart to say you a leader because that's true. I can suppose to say, but you're not really doing it.

Well, I lose it. I got this. You know, but you know, I want to be a leader. I don't want to know that's not my place.

You know, that's not my place. Everyone don't feel like that. But that's not my place to be the leader. I think it's a partnership.

I mean, like, I mean, when we talk about the leadership center, I mean, we're talking about like, um, men leading and stuff like that. I think, um, women are part of leader of the man and getting guys from the United States. Like, like you say, like, um, it's like, oh, we're going to take my position. I've been in this position for so long.

And it's hard for me to even trust you want to give up this leadership. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's hard. Yeah.

But, um, we, I just think we just need to go about trusting each other more and having a plan with each other once we get into relationships. Um, like, um, you know, oh, well, what's this? Um, and as a man, you got to be able to guide them. And when I'm in my bag, I'm going to be like, oh, well, you know, my credit score is this.

And I can get you what's your credit score. If it's something bad. Oh, this is how you can get your credit score better. Show them something different.

Oh, I'm making this much money. How much you making? If it's less than yours, then show them how they can make more money. You know what I'm saying?

Or, you know, like give us some tips or something like that. When I talk about guidance, I mean, like, effectively guiding them into a better life. Not just, oh, well, we're going to do this today. No, not just that.

Not just that. I'm just deciding what you're going to do. I'm talking about like financially, spiritually, mentally and physically. Right.

Yeah. It's like that whole, you know, see how this goes? I have a thing. No, baby, we're not in high school.

We're not in dark. We're not 20 years. You know what I'm saying? That's not have a plan.

And if you don't have a plan, at least communicate. You know, communication is still key. You know, regardless. You know, don't just go into the next step.

You know, don't just go ahead on making all these decisions, but you learn something. And then, you know, you leave your partner out of it. That's what mail and female. You know, I know what I mean?

It's a leader, but it's just it's just how you go about leading. It's how you go about doing things, you know, for me, you know, but yeah, absolutely. I agree with you. And also, you know, when we're talking about what, you know, like just European women and I should say white women and the black woman.

I just want to make this very, very close white women and black women or totally different spectrums. Totally different spectrums. And so, you know, I was talking about society and social privilege because I was at the Tesla, but I was like, why women are considered a minority? A lot of people don't get that.

Why people are considered a minority? And they will get benefitted before a black woman will. You know, when we talk about affirmative action, it benefits white women way more than it does black people as a whole. So I don't want, when black women keep talking about their families and things like that, I want them to be on the no assumption that they're on the same plane to the white woman because yeah, they'll put you out there as a man and be like, oh, yeah, go ahead, the special feelings.

So when it's time to split the money is going to the white women and a V2 movement is a prime example of that. So, around a brick, she started the me to move it. She started as a black woman. She started, but when it came down to people like less move as a CBS, the C or CBS, when it came down here for him to split that 20 million dollars, it all went to white women.

She didn't get a similar that. I didn't know it. Yeah. So I want black women to be on the no assumption.

Our fight as black men and black women is against white supremacy and white supremacy and structure in America. It's not against each other. Right. It shouldn't be.

But yeah, you know, I agree with you. You know, they're the day. It's still a race name. It's still a race.

You know, I think that white women and black women do have things in common when it comes down to men. You know, if you take a black, well, if you take black and corporate America, you know, regardless of the race of the man, they're going to get a job to them before the white woman or black women. You know, that's just, I think that that's just how that goes. You know, now, when you cancel out the, when you cancel out the men and then you have the white women, the black women, then yeah, then it's down the race.

You know, it's down the race then. So there's, they're still considered the majority, you know, the Supremeist mindsets. You know, but I feel like this, you know, black feminists, I think that that's important to for black women. And when I say a black feminist, I don't mean black women that's gone against intentionally going against black men or black women.

I just mean black women that can stick together and stop being a competition. For what? We got the same struggles. No black man, no white man, no white woman, no Spanish woman is going to be able to understand what a black woman understands of another black woman fully as they do each other.

You know, the whole movements, you know, the feminist movements. Yeah, it's fine. It has its pros and cons like anything else. But I think that black feminists should be a whole different category.

That's my opinion. Yes. You know, that's my, it's like it's a call for black feminists. Let's put black on it.

You know, because nobody is like us. Like you were saying, you know, as far as black women and white women being completely different. Yeah, when they come, you break it down to a black woman. Yeah, that's it.

Black feminists be that, you know, but it's like the revolution right now is almost like the way the way they've gone. The way they started off 2018 with the whole me to and the wearing black and solidarity and stuff like that, you know, they got the ball rolling with that. And they got the ball rolling against them. I'm not against them because they came down to just again back to corporate America, you can see Hollywood have a way it is, you know, it was, it's the men against the women.

You know, it's the men against the women and then when it's all the women, then it's the white against the black. You know, it's crazy. You know, so as black people, you know, we get through these movements and these little revolutionary star points and it's like, okay, we fought for the equality and then we get complacent and then we want to, we want to stay at equality instead of doing more. You know, even if I was a black woman, but you know, it's mostly white women are facing that.

So that's the same thing. Okay, you started a good thing with me too. You started a good thing with just women banning together, but black women don't forget that you at some point have to separate yourself from that and be for each other. You know, that's gone the next step.

It's gone the 10 times. I guess a financial, I guess a financial game. And I think it is. Listen, as black people, we got to start getting financial gain.

We can start all these movements and not get any financial gain out of it. We can let these, like we can let these white women come up here and get all this money and black women are being at all from it. We're giving them saying like we don't, we don't need black women to be out there and being counseled as well, America or being counseled by America and telling them they're feelings. They don't have the struggles that I go through because they put you in them.

We don't need out of protest. Who are you protesting to? They put you in there. As a matter of fact, the white woman may put you in a struggle.

Right. So we don't need for them to not get any financial gain. It's the money. It's okay.

If you want to equality and everything, everything like that, I'm out for it. But understand something. When you come down to you and white women and other women in America, you're totally different. You know, you're right.

Totally different. So one last thing to get on to take care of before we get out of here. No, American Europeans, ever since we've got to this continent, they've been practicing rape, pedophilia and the answer amongst each other. It seems that behavior has rubbed off on black people.

What do you think that is? That last part again. It seems like that behavior has rubbed off on black people. As far as rape, pedophilia, and the other things, the Europeans have got on this continent.

That's what they've been practicing. Why do you think that's rubbed off on black people? Because you and Ron, we do as the Romans. You know, it's like if you've stripped the customs of Africans and then those generations die off and then you have these blacks in America now where they know no previous customs and they're going to adopt to what's going on because that's all they see.

They think that that's what it is. And that's that, you know, that's just the part of that condition. You know, instead of black people, unless the black community wants to be greater, then we'll always be okay with the mediocrity of what's given to us and what's fair to us. We just want to eat that.

We're not hungry for anything else. You know, you have to be hungry for something different to go and get it, right? And so you're so focused on equality and all you want to do is, you know, even down to the atrocities, you know, that the white man does black people. We want to get away with the same atrocities and call it equality.

That's not how they go. You have to be better. Let's use Obama for instance. That man was in office with no blemish.

Him or his wife, no blemish, before office, no scandal and nothing after office. Okay, that's what you're doing. You know, being twice as better or 10 times as better to get half of what they got. That's just what it is.

And until we raise our kids to understand that we are different and to stop trying to make us feel equal and see no color. That's what we're going to start. That's why our mediocrity starts and ends. And you know that's, or that's why our black excellence stops.

You know, it's like we don't even know what black excellence is. We don't know it until sometimes somebody decides to go 10 times greater than what's been fed to her. You know, and I think that in this day and age that that is happening. I think that those bricks are being laid down.

You know, it's not an overnight thing. You think about 400 years of conditioned minds, you know, and religion and traditions and customs that weren't of ours and, you know, pedophilia and rape and murder, you know, is like, this is not weird a generation and I'm a millennial and you are too and I know you want to. We want things at the snap of our fingers. That's just who we are.

But that's not the process at all. So I would never, you know, tear down the people in the fight and those of us that's doing the work and say, you're not doing enough. You know, no, they got it. It's been started.

We are doing it. You know, it's not going to happen overnight. I just spread a guy that in the next two generations, we can look back and say, we was on the right path. We're not.

You know, just just just well, before we leave, just leave us with something positive. Not like, I try to try to shine at positive light. I'm just kidding. You know, I always say just be you, you know, and strive for greater, you know, I think that we need to educate ourselves.

We need to read more. We need to understand other languages. We need to be in the company of things of those who are the oppressors and those who, you know, we can relate to a little better. You know, I think that us shunning ourselves all from everybody regardless of who they are, doesn't give us growth necessarily.

You know, it's like you got to get in the fight. And sometimes that means rolling in the head with somebody you don't like to, you know, as far as just learning mindsets and learning, you know, the mind games that's played, even if you got to pretend you okay with it just to get information is like, we have to get some place where we need to collect to collect. I can collect into you. You got to go in places you don't want to go and get it, right?

Right. And so just as black people, you know, I just think that we got to come together and we got to hold each other accountable without bashing each other. You know, like with the whole arc, anything that mentioned, it's been held accountable and brought to justice a long time ago, but it could have been done in such a different way in a more constructive way where he would probably be better off and he would have less victims. Turning your eyes and that whole, you know, what goes on in his house days and it's how you know be open with each other, you know, create a trusting atmosphere and platform for your loved one so that they can come to you and that we can just as a people move forward and be more productive.

You know, and that's all I have to say. Just, you know, every day is is taking the inch to be more productive in whichever way that is and bring somebody up with you. Well, thanks for joining me. You should kind of become my co-host on the slide.

I always know I don't know what I'm talking about today. Yeah, yeah, I'll take you because my co-host on the slide. But next we go, why y'all right over here, I just want to ask you, unless we've done truth and friends part four and then we're going to have more people online. And yeah, you become my co-host on the slide.

It's like what you're talking about. I know. I really like being on the slide. I just want you to know.

Yeah, and I appreciate you being on the slide. I might have to make the truth. Hey, maybe I have to be truth that jazz, but I don't know. You don't want to get things out.

I don't mean to for this. Thank you. And we just spoke truth to power. And we'll see you next week.

We'll be right next week. All right. Bye.