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EPISODE · Mar 20, 2026 · 50 MIN

Surviving Estrangement

from Leaders Lead Even When It Hurts · host Tony Taylor

I have watched estrangement hit like a full-body shock, not just a sad season. I have felt that disbelief where it seems like I am in the twilight zone, replaying every conversation, asking what I did, and getting nothing but silence back. In this conversation, I sit with Nancy McCartney as she explains why estrangement feels so cruel, why rumination starts, and how walking on eggshells trains the nervous system to stay on high alert. I keep coming back to one truth that changed how I move through this: awareness is the first act of liberation. You will leave with a clearer way to stop the loop and start moving again.Subscribe to Leaders Lead and leave a 5 star review. It helps the right people find the show.Listen here: leadersleadthepodcast.comCommunityJoin the Leaders Lead Community: flowcode.com/p/cSHVgIMAa?fc=0Join for support grounded conversation and a place to connect without the online noise while you navigate real life.ResourcesNational Mental Health Support Lines: 988 or 1 800 273 8255Podcast website: leadersleadthepodcast.comLeaders Lead Community: flowcode.com/p/cSHVgIMAa?fc=0

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