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EPISODE · May 29, 2026 · 34 MIN

Surviving Ted Bundy with Kathy Kleiner Rubin

from I Want You To Know · host The National Center for Victims of Crime

This isn’t just another true crime story. It’s a powerful re-centering of the narrative we’ve been told for decades. In the pilot episode of I Want You To Know, we step into one of the most well-known cases in American history through a very different lens by focusing not on the perpetrator, but on survivor Kathy Kleiner Ruben. Through a deeply personal and unfiltered conversation, Kathy shares what it means to live through unimaginable violence, how she reclaimed her identity beyond that night in 1978, and why society needs to rethink the way we consume stories about crime. This episode challenges listeners to confront the uncomfortable truth about how victims are often overlooked, while asking what it really means to survive and be heard.We explore the lasting impact of trauma, the complexity of healing, and the power of storytelling as a path forward. Kathy opens up about her journey from victim to survivor, the misconceptions surrounding her attacker, and her mission to ensure that the lives and voices of victims are never lost or reduced to headlines. This conversation sets the tone for this podcast’s mission: creating space for stories that deserve to be told, in the voices of those who lived them.Resources:Free confidential help is always available at victimconnect.orgPurchase your copy of Kathy’s Book, A Light in the Dark: Surviving More than Ted Bundy: https://www.amazon.com/Light-Dark-Surviving-More-Bundy/dp/1641608684 If you have been a victim of a crime and would like to share your story, please contact us at [email protected] —This podcast discusses real crimes and may include sensitive topics that could be difficult for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised.The information shared in this podcast is for informational and storytelling purposes only and is not intended as legal advice.

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This isn’t just another true crime story. It’s a powerful re-centering of the narrative we’ve been told for decades. In the pilot episode of I Want You To Know, we step into one of the most well-known cases in American history through a very different lens by focusing not on the perpetrator, but on survivor Kathy Kleiner Ruben. Through a deeply personal and unfiltered conversation, Kathy shares what it means to live through unimaginable violence, how she reclaimed her identity beyond that night in 1978, and why society needs to rethink the way we consume stories about crime. This episode challenges listeners to confront the uncomfortable truth about how victims are often overlooked, while asking what it really means to survive and be heard.We explore the lasting impact of trauma, the complexity of healing, and the power of storytelling as a path forward. Kathy opens up about her journey from victim to survivor, the misconceptions surrounding her attacker, and her mission to ensure that the lives and voices of victims are never lost or reduced to headlines. This conversation sets the tone for this podcast’s mission: creating space for stories that deserve to be told, in the voices of those who lived them.Resources:Free confidential help is always available at victimconnect.orgPurchase your copy of Kathy’s Book, A Light in the Dark: Surviving More than Ted Bundy: https://www.amazon.com/Light-Dark-Surviving-More-Bundy/dp/1641608684 If you have been a victim of a crime and would like to share your story, please contact us at [email protected] —This podcast discusses real crimes and may include sensitive topics that could be difficult for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised.The information shared in this podcast is for informational and storytelling purposes only and is not intended as legal advice.

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