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Apr 15, 2023 43 min

Suspect charged in Pentagon documents leak case

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The 21-year-old suspect in the leak of classified Pentagon documents made his first appearance in federal court and has been charged under the Espionage Act. Jack Teixeira is accused of unauthorized retention and transmission of national defense information and unauthorized removal of classified information and defense materials. CNN Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst John Miller tells Anderson Cooper how the FBI was able to track down the suspect so fast. Plus, Justice Samuel Alito temporary extended access to an abortion drug while the Supreme Court considers the case. CNN Senior Supreme Court Analyst Joan Biskupic joins AC360 to discuss Justice Alito’s decision and calls it “very sensible.” To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy

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Good evening tonight. We learned a lot more about the Air National Guardsmen federal authority say is responsible for perhaps the worst leak classified material in a decade Airmen first class Jack to share his family had nothing to say leaving federal court today in Boston earlier They watched him brought in shackles before judge He entered no plea to a pair of charges under the espionage act unauthorized retention and transmission of national defense information and unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material He'll remain in custody until detention hearing next Wednesday as the hearing ended a man in the courtroom shouted love you Jack To share it did not look back but responded you to dad according to the government's court filing unsealed say the IT specialist received top secret security clearance in 2021 and may have had access to more sensitive material The filing says he quote maintained sensitive compartmented access to other highly classified programs end quote and that he began posting classified documents in December of last year They showed up on the social media platform discord the filing says he used his real name and home address and is building information on the site President Biden today issued a statement saying in part I've directed our military intelligence community to take steps to further secure and limit distribution of sensitive information and international security teams closely coordinating with our partners and allies he also weighed in late today on his way home from Ireland There's no way to protect how long an investigation will take but I don't think it's going to take very long I think we're getting to the bottom of quicker than I think I can get back Joining us now with his own new reporting stand chief intelligence and law enforcement analyst John Miller you learn more about how the FBI was able to track down the suspect So in these cases it was lightning fast you really have a five day case in a case you know a leak investigation can go on for weeks or months But it starts with the disclosures that this stuff is out there the FBI comes into its Sunday night going in a Monday morning And they start with dropping subpoenas and search warrants on discord who owns the servers to a preserve anything they have so it can't be deleted And be a turnover subscriber information and in any content that leads them to some IP addresses and and other connections But basically by Monday they're at the home of an 18 year old boy in California He's a member of this server and they're talking to him his mom and his lawyer And finally they agree he's going to sit down and cooperate with the FBI And what he tells them was I was part of this group we were gamers we did war games online the guy who ran it was this guy OG or original gangster Meaning the senior member of the crew and I did have a video chat with him and his name was Jack and he worked on a military base And during the video chat which goes back to January he said you know I was copying these classified documents so I could put them in the chat room So you guys could see them but I realized you know I'm going to get caught literally kind of transcribing them at work so To shortcut the process I started bringing the classified documents home and then just photographing him I mean ironically the thing he was doing to not a route suspicion ultimately leads to him being caught because you know the document I looked at said TS top secret HCI human compartmented information that's information from human sources SI signals information picked up by groups like the NSA TK talent keyhole that satellites from the National Geospatial Agency no foreign don't distribute to any country outside the five eyes So this material is what was going out there and the billing address in the name for the server was Jack Deshera at that address In Massachusetts yesterday they circled back to the 18 year old and they show him an array of still photos a lineup and they say which one of these faces is the guy you know is Jack He pointed to the person that they identified as Deshera that gave them the final piece of probable cause to move in which of course we've all seen on video how that went yesterday And is there any we're clarifying about why this guy allegedly leaked this information we know everyone's been saying ego of all the options of the way people usually do this You know as the case unfolds we'll probably learn more but just as an analyst looking at him having seen so many young soldiers and airmen in classified environments and looking at them and saying they're you know they're so young here is a guy who since he was a little kid was interested in war in guns and weapons and planes and tanks he carried books and magazines about that Based on the interviews that CNN has done with friends and during covid he assembles this group in this you know they're all locked down at home and they play their war games on the discord server and they swap their stories back and forth But he's the guy who now has the cool job his two worlds merge in the daytime he's going to work where he's working in a classified facility where the gamers aren't gamers they're not playing Real drones in real war zones targeting real terrorists sending hellfire missiles and predator drones with reapers and that's all going on and he's the guy in the background whose job it is to keep all those systems running technically during the day But he's exposed all that material he brings it back into his pretend world and shares it now his two worlds are basically colliding but once it spills outside his little group of 25 people onto the internet Real documents with real classification markings that was the spill the leak into the world wide web that he couldn't stop Fascinating don't know thank you appreciate it. I want to bring in seen legal analyst from deputy assistant attorney general Elliot Williams also seen a political commentator for my local Congressman Adam Kinzinger he's also Lieutenant Colonel in the Wisconsin Air National Guard Congress we're surprised to learn the suspect had a top secret security clearance and I mean listen to John it's so fascinating about how these two worlds sort of merged Yeah, I wasn't surprised by it because you know getting I have to go through that process every however many years it is where you get your top secret clearance renewed You didn't have much of a record I mean what they're looking for the top secret clearance is things like financial instability Obviously if you had any contact with foreign empty stuff like that But somebody so young was such kind of an empty slate more than likely you know trip no red flags And it was easy for him to get that clearance and you know look in a military environment 21 years old Maybe to all of us here seems kind of young but in a military environment is not all that young a lot of people are 18 19 years old I'm actually the old guy in the military hit 45 So not overly surprising but certainly this is a it's sad It's sad for the guards sad for the country and ultimately probably sad for this kid too Yeah, Elliot basically what we know right now What are the suspects options for defense? I mean how much good did his faith be riding on whether he cooperates with the government?

I think a tremendous amount and I only has a lot of a defense here because this was a case that was built largely over electronic materials And so you have communications you have records of documents or information that he would have shared online You have text communications where he's having with other people the crime is committed via computers So there's really not a bunch of defense here I think you know what's not called a defense But maybe at sentencing if he is convicted what he can say is number one I serve the country number two. I don't have a criminal history number three I thought I was doing something righteous But most importantly number four I accept full responsibility for what I did each of those four things I identified are ways that a convicted defendant could potentially lower His sentence, but those are defensive a crime. That's just lowering the sentence. He might get get once he is convicted John I mean in terms of cooperation.

He may have more documents I mean I don't know that you'd have like a secret hiding place for them But he may have more information that you could at least give more information easily to authorities that might help them Right it's a really interesting question because let's say that's the case where he had all these documents and he had them hit at home There's a period of time where he knows they're closing in on him He's seeing these articles in the Washington Post the New York Times And that's the time when someone in that position may well have gotten rid of those documents Which if it's found to be the case is just an additional charge of attempted obstruction of justice by destroying evidence When you look at what he could be charged with the two charges now unauthorized use of the government classified system and unauthorized disclosure of the documents Once they get a sense of is it a hundred documents or is it 300 documents? So does it zoom out to 500 documents when they have it all counted up and accounted for each one of those is going to be a separate count So these charges could really pile up Constrain has new reporting tonight that on surprisingly joint chiefs chairman mark million is deeply concerned about the national security implications That's quote of the leak what can actually be done to better safeguard sensitive intelligence if as you know There's some said there are legitimate reasons that many people have access to it Well, look I don't think well we're being an environment where we have no doubt that it's always safe But I think there are things that can be implemented I don't know that you know how easy this would be technically to do but you know that maybe there has to be a system where if Anybody accesses classified information they have to have somebody with them while they do it So you can no longer access something alone You know you think about when they launch nukes you have two people with two keys right so something along that line may be possible And then we have to screen it look there is this belief So Edward Snowden is one of them and this this guy may be kind of had this as a thing where they kind of believe that they have the right to Determine what gets declassified they have a right to you know quote unquote righteously show the American people I don't know if that was this guy's case I know Edward Snowden was under some false impression that he was some hero when he was really just a traitor That's got to be screened out because we can't live in this moment where somebody that's 20 or 21 years old believes They can set the foreign policy for the United States of America and frankly honestly probably cost Ukrainian lives in the long run with this leak Yeah, Congressman King urge on Miller, Elliot Williams Thanks so much next what today's last minute action by Supreme Court justice Samuel Alito means for the availability of the abortion drug Miffer-pristone also with the high court may do next and later the convicted killer of a protester of Black Lives Matter rally Texas Governor Greg Abbott now wants to pardon him tonight Those the man social media postings come to light a newly unsealed court documents include racist comments he made about killing protesters The question is well that's where the governor women and doctors across the country won't wake up tomorrow facing tighter restrictions on the abortion drug Miffer-pristone late today the Supreme Court hit Paul's on the court battle the action by So she just as Samuel Alito restores the way that things were before a Texas federal judge's ruling which would have suspended FDA approval of the drug It also supersedes a decision by the Fifth Circuit Court of appeals to maintain access to Miffer-pristone But under older more restrictive rules justice Alito stayed the ruling until 1159 Wednesday night while the court considers an emergency appeal from the Biden administration He also talked he already should say he also asked plaintiffs to respond on or before 12 p.m. Tuesday Joining us now is senior Supreme Court analyst Joan of Biscubic She's the author of nine black robes inside the Supreme Court's drive to the right and it's historic consequences also with us In an anchoring senior legal analyst law coach. So don't explain why was it solely justice Alito made this decision was that would you expect it?

Yes, Anderson it's great to be with you tonight First of all Samuel Alito is the justice responsible for emergency appeals from the Fifth Circuit All the regional circuits are divided among the justices just for this reason to be able to act quickly and I actually did expect this kind of action Frankly, it's very sensible just think of what's happened over the last seven days since we first got that ruling from Judge Cause-american, Texas. There's been so much confusion. There've been conflicting rulings There truly has been chaos in the idea of what would be available to women beginning tonight It was when his order was going to take effect. So this just gives everyone a chance to pause It's only five days, but it's a way for the justices themselves to take a serious look at the briefs and decide should they themselves hear oral arguments?

Should they let this play out at the Fifth Circuit? Which is already now scheduled its own set of oral arguments for May 17th What should be the next course of action? Of course what the Department of Justice would like is for the justices to make sure that these lower court rulings that went against the Food and Drug Administration Essentially allowed judges themselves to put themselves in the shoes of the FDA rather than have the expertise of the agency prevail whether the court will Actually interfere with that. Or it could be a mistake to read anything to a leader's decision beyond what it is a temporary administrative state?

At this point, yes This is really just a procedural step and likely will go to the full Supreme Court Remember, we're not going to resolve anything by that Wednesday deadline. It's really a time to figure out one of two things Are they going to schedule oral arguments or they want to kick it back to the Fifth Circuit? And either way it's not going to be a finite ruling because this process continues to unfold and I want to mention although it was Alito remember it was his famously now his draft opinion that was leaked ultimately became the opinion for the Dobbs decision in whole or in large part The fact that he is the one to write this is not indicative that he will eventually rule the same way There are different consequences here The Dobbs decision was about overturning Roe v. Wade on a constitutional basis whether you have the constitutional right to access and have an abortion This is an administrative issue under a thing called the Chevron doctor Which essentially says look the agency that is tasked with actually overseeing a particular problem deciding whether we should be actually Authorized or not the scientific basis for doing so we're gonna let them stay in their lane and drive this particular car We're gonna defer to them if the Supreme Court looks at this issue The look at the notion of do we want a chilling effect and the FDA's ability to give authorization and hand it over to a judge or Remain in the hands of the person and agency charged with that very notion Joe when the Supreme Court overturned Turned a review waiting the dance case last year just capital wrote in his concurring opinion quote the court's decision properly leaves the question of abortion For the people and their elected representatives in the democratic process.

How does that position square with the possibility of federal judges overruling the FDA? Yeah, that's interesting Anderson He specifically said that the lower court judges shouldn't be bringing their own policy and moral determinations Which arguably the the US district court judge in Texas did he also said he made a point of saying that the Supreme Court was not Outlawing abortion nationwide that states that wanted to allow abortion within their boundaries still could do that and that's why I do think this case is different because if all of a sudden the Supreme Court would allow a lower court judge to substitute his own view of what is safe and effective in drugs in America and roll back all approval for this first pill of the two step medication abortion protocol It would effectively make abortion illegal in the states that or in effective in the states that do allow it simply because that is the main method that women Who are trying to end their pregnancies in America these days are using for abortion? Yeah, and Laura I mean the Justice Department is already making the argument to the Supreme Court that the plaintiffs don't have standing which is Obviously legal term to challenge this drug in court because they need a quote taken or prescribed the drug and the FDA approval Does not quote does not require them to do or refrain from doing anything? How strong an argument do you think that is?

Well first of all on the issue of standing it's really a way of saying why are you the person coming before the court to ask me for Some kind of relief you got to show me that you have some particular skin in the game here Not just a hypothetical or ideological dispute. It has to actually be a controversy away in some way that you're actually harmed They're gonna have to prove that which is why you've got this writing period is gonna take place the deadlines Not just the Supreme Court to mull it over internally right now and then turn over to the entire nine It's really for the people who are asking for the court's review or defending against it to say show me what you have show me your Cards here This is the time to put up or shut up Why are you the proper party to be before this court? Why are you aggrieved or harmed in some way and also they're gonna have to address the fact that you've got a 23 year history here Why now why this time why this drug or codes jump his cubic? I appreciate it.

Thank you coming up Texas Kevin Greg Abbott wants to expedite the pardon of a man convicted in the killing of black lives matter Protestor now newly unsealed court documents show he has a history of racist comments and violent threats Tonight as the Texas pardon board investing It's Governor Greg Abbott's request for an expedited pardon of us army sergeant convicted last week killing a black lives matter protestor in 2020 newly unsealed court documents reveal a series of racist and violent Facebook comments the sergeant Daniel Perry made prior to the shooting He said 11 Dara has details When black lives matter protests erupted around the country in the summer of 2020 newly released court documents revealed Daniel Perry Intensely watched the chaos quickly becoming angry in a social media post He described the protesters as a zoo full of monkeys the unsealed documents include 76 pages of social media postings and text messages Most of these details were not shown to the jury that convicted the army sergeant of murdering protester Garrett Foster and raises new questions About why Texas Governor Greg Abbott is rushing a push to pardon this convicted murderer Foster's family and longtime partner have called the governor's call for a pardon disgusting This has been a complete nightmare the court documents show Perry talked about killing people and shared racist memes and comments on social media Including a 2019 message saying too bad. We can't get paid for hunting Muslims in Europe And in a Facebook message in May 2020 just months before the deadly shooting Perry wrote He might have to kill a few people on my way to work another text said I might go to Dallas to shoot looters Perry's attorneys called the release of the documents a political move by prosecutors and said Foster also made posts advocating violence in this 2020 post Foster praised the burning of a Minneapolis police station Perry's attorneys are calling for a new trial saying they want to introduce evidence that Foster repeatedly instigated confrontations and was the quote first aggressor when the murder happened on July 25th 2020 Perry now a 35 year old Army Sergeant worked as a ride-share driver and had just dropped off a passenger near a BLM protest Prosecutors say Perry drove into the protest and instigated a confrontation Perry's attorneys say Foster a 28 year old Air Force veteran motion to Perry as protesters were beating on his car Got it practice some some of our ads Foster was legally carrying an assault style weapon that night Perry had a handgun in his car and at some point in the exchange He fired multiple times killing Foster during a police interrogation Perry gave several versions of the position of Foster's gun Perry also told police he did not try to kill Foster Texas jury rejected his claims of self-defense And Leven Darrow joins me now from Austin has Governor have had commented on these newly unsealed documents that show these racist messages Well, we reached out to him today and the we got a one-sentence response from his spokesperson It's very different from the initial plea that the governor had put out the day after Daniel Perry was convicted that he was pushing for a swift pardon But this statement today read simply all pertinent information is for the Board of pardons and parole's to consider as this is part of the review process Required by the Texas Constitution So the governor has to wait for that parole and pardons board to issue its recommendation No timeline on exactly when that is gonna happen I'd love to our appreciate thanks Go ahead 24 GOP hopefuls taking the stage of the NRA convention Which of course taking place in the wake of the mass shootings in Nashville and Louisville plus GOP rising star Florida Governor Ron DeSantis making his debut visit to the pivotal primary State of New Hampshire tonight with details Just days removed from mass shooting Louisville in weeks since a similar tragedy in Nashville school Republican presidential hopefuls and contenders flocks at the NRA's annual convention today in Indianapolis So the big names of the convention include the former president former vice president Mike Pence and former Arkansas governor It's a Hutchinson who announced his bid for the presidency earlier this month other big names like former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley In Florida Governor Ron DeSantis appeared via video. She had a national correspondent Kristen Holmes has the last I was proud to be the most pro-gun pro-second amended president you've ever had in the White House I will stand with each in every one of you in protection of what we all know is commasants I am a concealed weapons permit holder myself My husband as a hunter and we value the fact that citizens have the right to protect themselves the National Rifle Association convention highlights The sway the NRA still holds with the Republican Party even amid a rise in mass shootings in the US including those in Kentucky and Tennessee in recent days I know I speak with everyone here when I say that our hearts and our prayers are with all the families that suffered loss and injury in these unspeakable attacks Former vice president Mike Pence called for mass shooters to be punished more quickly I believe the time has come to institute a federal death penalty statute with Accelerated appeal to ensure that those who engage in mass shootings face execution in months not years Several contenders suggested policymakers should focus on expanding mental health resources and armed guards to protect schools If you're going to protect children you need to have armed personnel to protect the children We know the crux of these issues. It's undiagnosed mental health It's a lack of opportunity in schools former president trump delivered the closing remarks of the forum promoting his actions to expand gun rights while in the White House I fought obama's unconstitutional effort to ban 3d printed guns I stood up for our hunters, fishers and sportsmen like no other president has ever done before Appearing via video floor governor ronda santis who is seen as trump's top rival for the nomination touted his efforts to expand gun rights in the sunshine state As governor I resisted calls to take up gun control even when such a stand is superficially unpopular Because I understand that it is precisely at those moments when a right is unpopular that it needs true champions The conference also marks the first time trump and pence have appeared in person at the same event after their public split following the january Six to tack on the us capital as the two former allies appear on a collision course in a 2024 gop primary And christen homes is there for us now.

What sort of response did the former vice president and the president and the former president get Well first of all, I understand I do want to know that they did not overlap pence scope early and he left almost immediately afterwards where a donor retreat in To have still not spoken in over two years now when it comes to reception This was very much clearly the former president's event even walking into the event the billboard that listed the speakers had a giant picture A former president trump with wane la piaer and just some of the other speakers were in tiny pictures next to it And the energy in the crowd was exactly the same trump got a standing ovation At the beginning for several minutes. He also got a standing ovation at the end lots of cheers and pence's reception was not as warm He was booed at the beginning end at the end, but I will say he took it in stride at one point when the boing wouldn't stop at the beginning He said okay, I love you too making a joke out of it But this is going to be what the former vice president has to face if he does decide to enter this 2024 race There's still a lot of contention and a lot of tension when it comes to the relationship between former president and the former vice president Chris and home. So appreciate it. Thanks.

Meanwhile, florida governor rondisantis is in new hamster tonight making his debut visit The first in the nation primary state for republicans the headline the new uh, the new hamster republican parties aim is tug dinner Zina's just cateen is there so what more can tell us about the governor's visit? Well, Anderson, this is his first trip to new hamster as governor and of course he's still undeclared in any gop presidential primary in 2024 But that didn't stop him from really touting a list of accomplishments that he sees that he's had in florida as governor over the last Several years one source familiar with his teams thinking saying that tonight and these appearances that he's having across the country in early states And he swing states is about really sharing what they consider to be a story of success in florida the florida success story And they really want to spread the word and really give this answer a chance to introduce himself to conservative voters to gop voters All across the country and as I mentioned he did go through and really take off a number of things that he's done as governor in florida And it was interesting because he did not mention any of his potential rivals by name But he did the closest thing he did was talk about how he doesn't like drama Which if you're listening to it, you could take as a settles wipe at the former president listen to this I don't have time for drama. I don't have time for palace intrigue I want to make sure that we're executing the agenda and you know what's happened over the last four years We don't have leaks. We don't have drama all we do is get the job done day after day And that means we beat the left day after day week after week month after month year after year And Anderson that's really core to his argument and his pitch that he was making tonight essentially that he is an executive with his eye on The ball that he's gonna do what he says he's going to do when it comes to that conservative agenda And that he's not going to let any drama kind of swirl around him that he wants to be laser focused on that and this is of course A chance for him to really test out any enthusiasm what enthusiasm there might be for his brand of leadership Should he jump into the race later this year?

And I did talk to some people who were in the crowd just to kind of take their temperature And one gentleman I talked to said that he was very impressed with the list of deliverables that just had that was impactful for him To hear about the things that he had promised to do and the things that he had accomplished late last night the governor signed florida News six week portion band to law today spoke the conservative evangelical liberty university Virginia He didn't make mention of it during his speech and he mentioned it tonight new Hampshire Right now he did not mention it tonight and that is worth noting because as I said he did go through So many specific achievements that he had there, but we did not hear him mention that Specifically at all at the event tonight and as you mentioned Anderson He was at Liberty University and you really the closest he came was saying that he and his administration had promoted a closer of light But again not really harping on that at all he had signed that six week abortion ban late Thursday night Just kidding appreciate it. Thank you. Just had something very proud to be part of a new show i'm hosting it premieres this sunday It's all the whole story and on sunday's premiere nikra Nick pain Walsh takes us on a stunning journey with tens of thousands of migrants trying to make it through the treacherous Darien gap the only land route from South to central america will have more in a moment This sunday at apm cnn preneurs a new weekly show i'm hosting it's called the whole story It's one story one hour in depth and the premiere episode on sunday is really good nick pain Walsh and his crew has spent about a week Making the dangerous and difficult journey to get through the Darien gap Which is the only land route from south to central america which thousands of migrants are making every day here's a preview The football shirts are porters each numbered charging to carry bags even children uphill But it doesn't always work out wilson is separated from his parents their porter raced off ahead And I Meanly a thousand unaccompanied children were found on the route last year the u.n. Have said Nick i mean it's just so heartbreaking see that little boy wilson out there on his own You know did he get in touch with his family find him did you encounter a lot of kids on the track?

Yeah, staggering amount frankly wherever you looked you would see children often very young and often also too bizarrely engaging in the task ahead of them Sort of energetically bounding uphill seeming so incredibly resilient But it's shocking to see them on this track particularly given the knowledge that adults struggle to complete it often adults die indeed On this sort of trek wilson the boy you saw that yes a couple of days later I was deeply troubled that he may have been permanently separated from his parents But we did magically see them back together again But this is often the issue here that parents who are deeply struggling to move themselves their own equipment their own food Sometimes engage porters to carry their children for them and those porters are a lot faster race off ahead and in wilson's case end up separated His case ended happily but we do hear others where that separation doesn't end in final reunification answer You and your team you're producer Natalie Gajon and your cameraman Hike this trail from five days in february in the in the story that you put together in the documentary some of the migrants on the trail With you told you that they wouldn't have attempted the track if they knew how dangerous it really was was it harder than you thought it was gonna be? Yeah, I mean look you know it's gonna be difficult But we had the knowledge of that and then we had the resources of CNN to mitigate it So you know we were wearing equipment carrying equipment with the assistance of porters too to help us carry our equipment as well All of which you know total thousands of dollars worth of assistance and still at the end of it I looked down at my feet and it was surprised they were still attached to my body frankly half the time it's exceptionally Physically grueling even if the only thing you I had to do in my case was carry a light backpack and talk to people as you move We kept seeing parents carrying all the food their family might need sometimes their children as well Walking at times with flip-flops crock type shoes small backpacks football shirts startling at time to see exactly how fully equipped Some people seem to enter this particular challenge a lot of that is down. I think to the sort of propaganda the sales campaign that the cartels the human traffickers It's basically as voluntary but a large trafficking operation what they say to people before they undertake it That it's not going to be that hard that it's going to be a few days You don't have to really pack that much and then they enter this they see the terrain they see how much longer it possibly is than they Had ever remotely imagine how much more food and everything they should really be requiring and that is when the panic sets in and to the danger frankly Because I suddenly realized how poorly resource they are as they begin this challenge and what's so extraordinary about this hour I mean you really you take the viewers on this 66 mile journey through the Darian Gap and meet the you know put names and faces to people Along the way and then there's the realization that even after they make it out of the Darian Gap They still have they want to try to get to the US They still have three thousand miles in the US border And if they're thinking they're going to apply for asylum That's going to take even years if they're even able to do that even able to get a hearing and there's a very good chance They will not be granted asylum because fleeing economic hardship is not enough to be granted asylum in the US Yeah, absolutely And I think that's what's at times really depressing about all of this is that you're meeting people along the way you show phenomenal determination grit they endure physical challenges which you know say we they're voluntarily times you're one day I'm gonna keep going through all of this But a lot of them are seem to be fueled by times poor information the belief that maybe some interpretation of US government statements Might mean that they have a better chance next week than the previous week It seems doesn't we matter what the US government says at times that has often passed or interpreted as suggesting people need to go now Because later it will be harder or now is a good time because the conditions have improved whatever you hear from people They seem to think when they get there now is a good time to try it Yeah, Nick being well, it's really extraordinary what you and your team did. Thank you Tune in Sunday night at 8 p.m.

Eastern Pacific for the first installment of the whole story on CNN Well coming up in about 10 minutes tonight Well, please or takes us inside the US Holocaust Memorial Museum You're gonna hear stories from survivors like will stat and witness a history that must never be forgotten Never again the United States Holocaust Museum Memorial Museum tour starts at the top of the hour Just ahead tonight president Biden left Ireland tonight But not before making an unexpected connection with someone who knew his son Bo in the final moments of his life Let's play next My most co-person Biden departed Ireland for his residence in Delaware But not before he made one last unexpected family connection while visiting a Catholic shrine with his sister and son Hunter today The president said that quote out of the blue he was told that the priest who gave his son Bo last rights was there Biden as you know died of brain cancer Walter Reed Medical Center almost eight years ago by the Franco Grady served there before returning to Ireland But I met with a greaty for about 10 minutes. The greaty reportedly said of the president He laughed he cried it just kind of hit the man he told the different local media outlet the quote He certainly misses his son and that quote we talked a little bit about how grief can take several years Seen as Donia Sullivan was in Ireland as more in the homecoming for president exploring his family roots I don't know sometimes if Joe Biden's Irish or a foreign American time I show up while you're taught me so well At Gaelic for I'm at home. I wish I could stay longer Biden may be facing crises including a major intelligently can United States, but here in Ireland. He's received at heroes.

Welcome The country's weather not dampening president Biden spirits Joe First president visited County Loudon Ireland's East Coast where his grace break grandfather immigrated from more than a hundred and seventy years ago Why do the Irish love American president so much what is it about it? America is our second country During the famine times and the bad times that we had with our neighbors all our people immigrants went to America Do I welcome with open arms as you wear yourself? Don't eat in Ireland Biden seems to have cousins everywhere So let me just get this right. So your grace grace grace grace grandfather was Joe Biden's great grandfather's cousin Oh, yes For cousin My dad is personal.

Yeah in Balanah on Ireland's Atlantic coast. We meet two of the president's youngest cousin Lauren and Emily bluest the town is so excited. It's such a boss. Well come home Welcome You've been gone too long Come on in Joe and close the door Local fear say Biden's grace grace grace grandfather Edward bluest sold bricks for the construction of the town's cathedral in the 19th century And then he used that money to move to America So this this here is because it would have been the fireplace basically 19 Oh Moore bricks Ernie caffrey says this is what remains of Biden's ancestral home here in Balanah Ernie runs caffrey's gallery in the front window eight Biden portraits you paint at this Yes, I I am friendly with the owner of this premises and I was passing down on saturday last saturday and was popping in to say hello I got a notion saturday afternoon.

I said I'm going to go home and I'm going to do a painting of Joe So he did What does this mean to the community though? It means a few things about an a few things to me all people be coming for years to see where to come from where to go I think you're gonna go selling joins us now. That was delightful. Did you run into any people this past week who are not distant cousins of the resident United States?

You know the genealogists here in arton's anton's I think they deserve a raise they're working over time And look as you can see there are people really really proud particularly in this community in county mail Where Biden tonight addressed thousands of people who packed the keys all along at the river moi That goes through to town so folks very very excited about it Lots of people claiming they are his cousin as you saw in that piece too Lots of people claiming different items, you know bricks off walls and things that are somehow linked to biden's ancestry although locally People here calling some of those claims into question. However, the man you saw in that piece there Ernie cavity he actually presented the president wish a brick from that fireplace you saw in the piece there today So that is on its way on Air Force one now back to the u.s with the president. They didn't give you a lift back He didn't know i'm stuck here in the gold talking to you Well, don't have fun. I was great views.

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