“SWIMMING IN DIFFERENT PONDS”

Reading really what I'm telling you, the truth, the power and the hosts, Harrison and Nate, we will be joined by against the SNCC song, and Mr. D. Shaw. They will be joined as we'll be talking about swimming in different parmons and different social sectors.

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So, Mr. D. Shaw. What's up?

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From our listeners out there tonight, we're going to be talking about basically swimming in different parms, meaning different social circles. I think... I think this is a very important topic because it seems to me, and I know I love black people, but it seems to me that we are in the update of bringing our social circles or swimming in different parms. But I want to get you guys to start on that to begin with.

There's a snake that you want to start us off. First of all, I want to admit to you that when I heard the topic, I was way somewhere else. I was an impression that she was asking about swimming in the leadie pond. Okay.

Okay. We can get to that later. No, I can still get confused. Let me get that up first of all.

But my opinion on swimming in different parms the way... the way it's... Let's say... Let's say moving in different circles, having different types of friends and associates that just communicate different things.

I definitely think it's important for anyone to be universal. I always coined myself to be from the hood to the boardroom, wherever you need me to be. I can be and be comfortable wherever I am. I think different social circles and different people bring out a different part of you that you may have never known that was there.

You don't always have to hang with the people that you grew up with per se because we are trying to be with your family and friends, but when you learn different cultures and different things that people all enjoy, you tend to think that you didn't even know that you were interested in. Oh. No. Mr.

Lishan, you came up with the topic, so I know you got to get in credit for that. Go ahead, Mr. Lishan. What you got for us?

Mr. Lishan? You there? Do you lose it?

No, I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't.

I don't. Okay. So, yeah. So, um, swimming in a different part of the time that Mr.

Lishan got sent in for difficulties here at the time, I can't wait to take back in with us. I'm pretty sure. But, um, swimming in a different part for me, they just like you said, it's very, very necessary. I think it's necessary to even upgrade your life.

Because if you collaborate with this book called Black Millionaire by Dennis Crenbro, he said, in that book, he said, you should hang around five million years because then you'll become the sixth. I've heard that. Yeah, right. So, your social circle is very important.

But I do feel that I feel like once you change the social circle in a black circle, you get labeled as a sellout as well. So, how do you feel about that? I'll sell out. I'll sell out to whom, yourself?

The community. No, I feel like you're selling out yourself. Right. If you do not explore those other ponds.

Um, and that's the problem with our community right now is the labels and what we should be and what we shouldn't do and what we should do and who we should communicate with. Um, I think we need to just go with who you are. Um, but I said, you can meet a different type of person and become interested in other things like the six, if you become the six million, I'm the person is going to reach over and try to make a seven million. But if you're going to be shy into, oh, I don't know about anything.

I'm a sellout or I don't want anybody to think that I'm hanging with such a such type of person because that makes me look like corny. I mean, it only depleting your value doing that. Right. So, do you have any, okay, Mr.

Lee Sean, we got you back. Mr. Lee Sean. We got you here.

Um, but do you think that, I mean, like as far as like a break, your social circles and things like that. Um, do you think that eventually that you start, you start hanging around with the same people that you think about it? Just out of fact that it may be more financial, financially beneficial to you. Um, everybody that you hang with is not your friend.

So that's, you start there. Okay. But if you have a true friend and they don't see the growth in you and you have negative things to say about the growth in you, then you get rid of those people and the people that are rooting for you and cheering for you, that's the people that you keep. So nice.

Let me say, Sean, it's back. Mr. Lee Sean. Nope.

Still saying anything. Uh, but, um, yeah, I totally agree with you, but okay. I totally agree with you. So let's talk about relationship things.

That's why it's like so many different pawns. How do you feel about that? Like, make it clear. Remember, I thought it was something different.

So basically, so basically let me say this, like, um, I have a, um, I have a bias against women that will be able to do this, right? Because after like, who writes, they don't contribute to anything in society because they don't demonstrate any growth. They, they're happy where they are. So, so as far as like upgrading the social circles, as far as like relationships, how do you feel about it?

Like going from like, when I would call her right to somebody that would be, you know, quote unquote classy or somebody that's like middle class or a little bit higher in class. Okay. Hey, did you all. I guess it's a good thing I have more than one device.

Yeah. Okay. Go ahead and brag. Everybody.

Yeah. But we'll just talk about it. First we're talking about like social circles and just a bringing social circle and we mentioned me. We mentioned like, I was reading a book called black billionaires.

And they said in a book that if you hang around five million that you'll become the six one. You know just off the influence of those five million. So what do you think? Well, I like to go with the belief of if you're the smartest person in your social circle, you need to change your social circle.

Because you want to keep acquiring knowledge. You want to keep building and You can bring that knowledge that you acquire back to your whole social circle There's people want to grow and expand also. I mean, don't just hold it to yourself But that's the reason why you need to be able to move around in different social circles Swimming different kinds of you want to call the weathers and you're financial life your personal life your spiritual life Me even your cultural life or be people or swimming in our cultural circles From all the water below and taking what we created and bringing it back to Their own cultures and claim it as they are. I mean look at music when you have jazz Blues rock and roll hip-hop that all started at our circle our pond they came in and some appropriated it You know and brought it into theirs some give credit some though So far as like with the financial circle Thank you say to feel hang along with five billionaires and you'll become the sixth one because if you really are in a circle You acquire your knowledge acquire skills If you have people that will help you but you won't find out if you're staying stagnant and staying with the same Group that you began with not that wrong with You know hanging with some of your old folks or whatever, but we grow we expand it.

You should want to Right so if you grow apart from your social circle Reason I'm saying you're down to sell out because you have to be truly self whether you're the new social so far now You still are who you are right now when you're not ready to yourself Yes, that's when the Sun out happens, but when you're true to yourself you're true to your heart And but you're acquiring new things and you're not being new people But still being true to yourself. There's nothing wrong with that. I mean just because someone becomes articulate Let's see, you know the way I spoke when I was in high school I do not speak that way now There's nothing wrong with the last book in high school when I was hanging around those people doing things I was doing back then some stuff from the proud of but I still am why I am in my heart so I Know this but you know what I mentioned I said So because I said that after like they don't contribute to society because they don't want to grow you don't want to explain They just want to be just happy with the situation Okay, and I said that once you what you know, you know once upon a time everybody But then you want to go to somebody that's a little bit more, you know what I would call classes What I would call more middle players and middle of the road. So what do you think about it?

The whole right So The stuff that some people label right, it's just really not it's really just the way you would race, you know It's just don't know no other way. So like I say like I say it's playing it. Okay, okay So listen Okay, like I said always make the joke like on the hood to the board depend where I'm at who I'm dealing with in with the situation Okay, okay, so When I'm with my kids I'm like it's like mommy mold, you know, I keep it in my situation when I'm at work and I'm different It's a lot of me no one with my core because it was locked up together then we talk about who it writes up So it just depends on where you are and what you're doing Well, what what concert to do it right? I am so that you did over the weekend.

You should have been doing But you know, it just I just feel like it's just a time to face everything I do understand that people do not know how to come out of it You know, I've been in places with people that I'm having a conversation with and put like places that we should be having a whole conversation and not getting loud and rowdy and Just for example, I can be in somewhere with someone and somebody approaches let's just stay from Civil court or something and the person comes in and you know having this discussion with us about something that's very Important and the person who's been saying just morning That's a level of irritation for me When I when I'm gonna say good morning, you know, that's different but when I'm at home, I might be saying good morning You know, it's just a difference. It's some people need to you know, some people don't know the difference and what they should use those Let me say now you don't know what you use those elements in you could probably be To a rate, okay now on my face look each I am Percy the boardroom, okay, I'm doing all right So it's just a time and place in the audience So I don't want everybody to be labeled as a hood right because you know, you never know but if you know the person's depth And you can put the label there You know don't always think everybody who it is just depending on where they are and I always say You know like we need before we do that Okay, yeah Yeah, well considering that you know where I'm from but I won't say it though. I won't say it. I don't want to say it but the thing is the thing is because you learn you know, you learn and you grow You realize okay certain behaviors that you may have a quiet one up they hold you back or limit you As you get older when you want certain things out of life So you've allowed us to press on those behaviors like, you know, Snick just saying it's a time of the place for everything when she's relaxed and A while for a billion people she go, you know, we're back to a couple of comfortable vernacular But she also understands that okay one is trying to be professional but business need to be handled and you go into another mode But issue is people who say saying who wants who they you know growth is pain And it pains them to answer.

Okay, let me be more articulate. Okay, let me dress this way Let me make sure I'm safe. Make sure I wear this and Go here and go there It's painful to a lot of people to change because they're thinking okay, this was good enough for me It got me this far, but I realize okay, you wish it played so you want to go higher You got to do something else to change. That's just like we're working out you're working out your muscles today hurt They'll they're hell they go big.

Yes, so that's the same thing without Moving in different pounds. It may hurt. Some people may you make far by your wayside. They may oh you act in funding Oh, you can hang around us or you hang around with them.

It's not that you don't have love for them But if they have love for you, they understand you're trying to better yourself and understand actually they've been up this way Also, they don't you know you better than yourself So that's that's just you know some of my thoughts on that So it's so much activity. This is just fun and you know that it's fun and it's more loose I say it's fun, but I say it's a time and place for everything Okay Same thing with these things but my question is Are we speaking of people that we're reaching back to or we're speaking of people that just Just you just saying like as far as you they just Have a problem with you growing because we have some people that have um Don't have the knowledge and the possibly comes from not knowing better true true I leave behind the people you have to leave behind the people that just don't want to but the people that have the lack of knowledge You know, we have to attend today. You know, so if we're not gonna attend today We can't say that everybody's like that from your past because a lot of people just have like a knowledge and do not know how to express their They don't have a state there. Like I don't know.

Can you help me get there? They're just rather It's easier to be upset than to learn, you know, and it's some people that you can reach back soon It's not people that you can't not a person that you can't you leave but the person that you're able to help let's do that because we don't As a community, we don't reach back and show what we know We like to keep everything so I was else because of this defense mechanism of I don't want that person to do better than me And sometimes people are embarrassed by state. I know I don't know any better. Right.

Right. And sometimes you feel like you feel like you're forcing Self-own someone, but I'm okay before saying myself on somebody until I just know that that ain't what they want to do You know, I'm saying I know a lot of people like when I learned and I got married and I and that was done I worked on Like my credit like that was my my thing. Okay, so when I worked on my credit I was giving it everybody. It was like a conversation to some people like no, don't do this.

Don't do this. Let me show you how to do this Let me show you how to don't do that. Don't do that. It was like a haking thing But in reality, I just don't want you to mess it up for yourself.

So I'm just trying to like show you okay I'm gonna tell you right now. All my friends. I have not helped Let me be clear But most of my friends I didn't put on to the game or enterprises are buying homes businesses Big making big purchases for themselves and then they have the maybe one or two with this like oh, you just egg a leaf You just thank you. You know everything.

Oh, so you got to let something you think they uh, you get to show everybody with that's the people you leave but don't let your irritation become the Leaving the other person the other people behind that you want to know And see I think So basically I'm sorry. Okay, that's just for my name out. You know my favorite Daisy wine, you know, whole do that That's we want to go through that She went through the groin pains and bearing herself as an you know, and office doing that doing that And you just basically trying to help people out So they don't have to go through the same mistakes and profiles you went through right So so do you guys think that what do you think the reason is that we don't reach back and invite some people to our pawns As a whole like like you said defense mechanism, but what is their fear about? I'm talking about understanding.

I got a fear of them doing better than me Or them surpassing this type of way, but what else is there? Oh, I feel it's insecurity if you don't want to reach back and help people I feel it's not secure. I feel it's uh, like you say, oh, he might do better than me But my thing is this a day of your people and they do better than you it will lift you up also It's basically like I pull you up you pull me up. That's how it should be but everybody don't say I agree.

That's why I said it's just you just you you can only try Just try, you know, I'm okay with being ever taken for people What somebody when I'm trying to show somebody something or I'm just trying to put them on game more just something You know that I learned and I want people to smother me with the same information But you know once once listen somebody's trying to teach me about stops right now He is irritating me about this whole thing. I'm not on another level of irritation I'm reading. I'm got all these videos and things up and this is what you say if you don't do this I'm not talking to you anymore But because I've got this person looking and I'm like digging into it digging into it trying to you know See trying to seek interest in it But because this person is really taking their time out now I'm gonna say you know, I'm done with it and just blow it off But if you don't try Then you just never gonna learn and I would hope that I eventually I catch on to it and I can show somebody else and somebody can show somebody else But it really doesn't work like that or I mean everybody's interest is not your interest So don't think that when you do reach back and you know somebody's not reaching up to get the knowledge They may not just may not be interested In a sphere it's a fear of losing to you know a fear of not being able to Understand or surpass the friend that they gave you informational somebody who didn't put that knowledge on you some people You know living fear fear of fear of investment fear of something new fear of being around different people. How do you want to be perceived?

You know, it's a fear of suit They are so It's like it's a A fear of being exposed like they almost feel like okay. They're they are fake and phony and somebody's gonna find out about Would you say fake and phony? I would just say just unaware Well, if we're talking about the people who don't want reach back I'm gonna say Faking phony like if I bring up yeah, they you know, if I get this person up this person will be when I had a book I'm on my face and stuff. I don't want them to expose me to my new crowd of people Whereas in reaching out, it may be a fact of like you say just like a mallet That's different No, I understand what you're saying about the pan What what huh?

I feel it okay Because I talked about this before With things going on and we can be so fake it phony so easily And being exposed is something that you would have to probably address being in those types of situations I can understand that being a fear I can understand that being a fear So let's um switch gears for a moment now snakes say that she originally thought I'm a I'm gonna say I'm a soon No, I thought you were speaking Uh, sleeping with the opposite sex. I mean the same sex The same thing with the same thing We say maybe maybe not who we're wearing when you say you swimming in a different part That definitely means you you swimming in the pond that you just came out of like get it like Like that. I was very unaware and I met with you because he didn't come here up with this topic and let me go with it I mean Why do you do that? Okay, so um, so I talk about it.

Let's talk about I don't think you know, you know because of Because I am and you know how I grew up. I typically don't you know, mention homosexual stuff on this show, but let's talk about that Um, how much I'm gonna do Next talk about it Can't be to say about the homosexual. Let me say this But you know, um, there's a there's a well, I think it's a myth. There's a myth that Majority of black men down lower That's a myth, huh?

Yeah, or oh that black man, um, uh, people with other men that's I black women So let's so let's talk about it Go ahead. Yeah. Well, I'm gonna say it like this the download issue is a lot of people who are homosexual are basically like I'm gonna say Raised to believe what they are, you know, it is not natural, you know by the family not a church By you know, some of the community so when I was a fit in with their family church community They had who they are originally who they really are but that can be dangerous because let's see, you know, in a misa hide who they are They take a white for us. We want to take a hand And then next thing, you know, they may have kids and then they just can't hide it anymore They going out creeping and then that's when you know, like the myth of okay, that's how it's you know, you know, Black women because they have the creep in that way But I think it's just a pressure trying to be The you know, manly alpha man and stuff like that instead of being too.

Oh You know me. I'm I guess I'm kind of going to get selfish in a way. I like come out the closet So you can leave these women alone and more of us today. You know, that's how that's what my thing You know, I didn't have any problem.

I can say you gave you gave you do you This you know, just leave the one this will be a you know, how someone to say, you know, a woman You know, like women. Okay, ladies do the long and you know, I can you know, she can find our house Boy I found a weapon like that. That's my thing. I know they have different level You know, people who are pansexual and all that type of stuff my only thing is this if you're honest with everybody To give people a chance that you accept your objective then that's cool.

But it's when you're hiding that thing That's what I have issues with you. Hmm. Okay, so this thing I agree definitely what you say about the honesty thing if you be honest from the beginning I just don't have any any type of issues with you. Um, I am not a part of the lgbc I know there's some other letters that they have now community, but I just I have my Best friends or or or gee and when I say that, I mean like you have like a best a good a good time with them First thing not just like not my best friends.

But I'm saying like they're great friends I don't have anything you know any issues with the whole situation. I just have the issue with the downhill situation Um, I think that everything has changed now because everybody has come some eat this the norm somewhat Some people are still straight away from from the whole situation, but um, I do not believe that the whole You get a thing from A male that's sleeping with a male. That's bad as I told him it I think that you get A's from sleeping around with people who have A's and anybody who can get it and you're not You cannot get just hit it because someone's gay Okay, we that we'll wave beyond that era if it was ever ever that it was ever true in I don't have an issue with that. I just have an issue with first aid the download situation but what I do not like is that men Have this whole ill thing when it comes to gay men but celebrate gay women And it's like think that's like the best thing in the world and it's okay for them to be J bi-sexual or whatever it is and it's not okay for them men to do the same thing I just don't understand the stigma the whole stigma on that situation because whether you like it or not it is what it is on both ends now You know my son Chows me all the time that he likes girls that like girls Okay Okay, so I has a dress it like well, what do you mean or what are you saying or whatever?

He's saying mine most of the children most of the girls that go to school are bisexual So let's talk about this um Bisexual thing as that's a relationship with me, right? Because I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna say this out loud. Um, even though I am a mental health professional I gotta be aware of my biases, right? So one of my biases are that When we talk about women being bisexual or being lesbian in my mind always feel like that's a phase and I say that because We're women Their body is supposed to be country You know, that's natural for their body to be penetrated before a man.

That's not natural for their body to be penetrated. It's just not Um, so I feel like if you're a man and you're trying to be bisexual, no, you make that decision to be gay You make a decision to be gay? Just come out I don't have a clue About that, but this is facts. It's a medical sex I don't know where they say that somewhere where women's body's supposed to be penetrating them in as bad as I That because women have babies How you speak?

For a medical perspective or a biblical perspective From a natural perspective Women okay, so this thing I'm like, what the hell women have babies all the way to baby. They're just like And that's natural. That's what else is natural. That's natural.

Then a man's G-spies in his anus That is true. But that's not a typical sex That's not a typical sex. I need to see people I need to see people who can't even believe in the baby They are waiting I need to see some sex Both are too rare because that's it That's why they get science Go back and read that portion that is all sex But I'm not like I'm not like a I'm not like a spiritual designer going You may have never But I'm just saying okay But what I'm saying is I just feel like It's okay. It's okay to be you As long as you're being you If that's what you like say that's what you like If you like women just say that's what you like if you like both it is possible I can't say you saying a thing but it's possible to like both And just say you like both let's just be honest and open about Things especially when we're getting some sexual relationships with people That's my only my only thing that I have to say about anybody Anybody not just men They're like men and women and I'm speaking of men They're like women women and they like men and speaking about all sexual relationships Everybody just to be open and honest about whatever it is that they like and don't like it Okay Well, we would uh Snick on that bit on that because like I said earlier That could cause a lot of damage when you're hiding Stuff like that if you're not truly someone give up give a person a chance to turn it out That's what they're gonna do and then some cases like you know how Snick will talk about her son You know, he like girls like girl You know If they honest then you know that's that I guess my only thing is back with you The double back on what you're talking about how men give women a pass for being gay or bisexual A lot of men do it Out of the ignorance thinking that oh She like But you gotta take this into account Just because they're like you may want to have sex with Right, you gotta take that into account So they're taking off of a fantasy in this there but that's not always going to be reality You want to just be sitting there?

Nope Well So when I was saying about that situation with my son, um, I don't first they think he knows what he's speaking Oh, I think this what they see Okay, so that goes back to what you stated about the same thing I think it looks to you right now when some of the younger girls do when I think younger I mean the high school age anything below 11 greek I think they could possibly be a phase But of a person of my age they know what they like They know what they want, but I think that is so glorified that girls do think that they're like that But they don't really know Something do y'all think there's an agenda to push homosexuality on black I don't think so Because I'm saying it's I'm saying it's I'm saying this You know, there's you know gay cartoons where like gay um gay black families There's um, you know, it just seems like everybody would go like it's like You have to like they're pushing it in our face. So y'all don't think there's an agenda No, I'll put it like it's one of the biggest victims on tv All ABC has a white gay couple reason of the evening show. Oh, wow So that's the reason why I'm saying no, I think what it is Hollywood and so that's what's the new things no getting wrong That's why they're opening their writers, you know, let more people write shows and do movies and stuff Because how do we learn how to ID? They write out ideas on a nuclear family The straight white male straight white female 2.5 kids you can always do so many stories involved in it when actual life Is way more than it so I think it actually what is what's going on how that gets an agenda I think they just went out of idea Because some stuff here comes from this you know what I don't think that is an agenda what I do think Is you don't want I think it's and I don't want to say normalizing it What is it is making people aware of what is really going on around us?

And it just making I think it's preparing to be honest with you because you don't want to have that child that's in the store That's staring at the gay couple like what is that because they never seen it before? You know, I think that's an embarrassment, you know when your child or somebody is in the store that's not used to it It's staring You know, I just personally think it's making it making aware, you know aware of it You said we said that's an embarrassment. Yes, it is I don't want my child standing in disgust because they see a same six couple I mean, I guess this would be my thing. Okay, I'm gonna take on this.

This would be my thing now if My child see the gay couple and they're like, oh, what's that? And then I don't think that's an embarrassment. I think that's the curiosity because I can't I can't say something like it's an embarrassment because To do that's not normal if all these things with me and my mother together. They don't that's not normal.

That's not their normal life I just so I understand what you're saying. I mean have people don't want work. I just want to say anything Yeah, and also, you know, nothing is this like when they talk about kids and sexuality with kids You know, I'm trying to figure out like a minute about trans kids and stuff like that Like why are these sexualizing kids that they are young age and most of them they're black kids when they sexualize them on this I don't even know that was a thing I'm like I look at other people like the way in his son, right? This kid is how old like 12 or something like that.

Mm-hmm. How do you even know that you're gay? Who's pushing his own? You're a kid.

Well, apparently the mom in the daddy. Yeah, and I'm not gonna say pushing it all but I think about it How old were you when you first played hide and go get it? I go get it. Yeah, how old were you?

Mr. D. Charles, you know, I got some I got some trauma in my, you know, You know, it was I understand what you're saying. It was sure.

I understand. I know myself like when I came up, you know, I told about, you know, a lot of people know like what the elementary school and I didn't realize it sometimes was older, but you know, I was just being the employee so the teacher put me at the punishment table so I was just like this other girl who was acting up in class and putting the table next to me. We supposed to do what I was supposed to do when I worked. She wear my hand and put it in between our legs and stuff like that.

Me not realizing the time was done. I was like, wait a minute. I was just, I was actually relaxing. But did you like it?

I, well, that's not what I like. Did you like it? I like girls, but that still wasn't right. Okay, I understand it.

But at that moment, probably means I realized you were like girls. Exactly. That was time for me. So is it not, is it not possible for a young boy to realize what they like at the same time?

Okay, so Mr. Lee Sean just talked about being molested. So no, but I wait, let me say it. Let me say it.

Let me bring it out. Let me bring it out. You can talk about being molested, but what if a boy is molested by another man and then he's confused about what he like? Well, that's the thing about it.

I know in my lifetime, you know, in my business, I have dealt with guys that were molested by men with one. And they still like one. Right. Because they didn't realize they didn't like it.

Exactly. And I also know people who want molested at all, but they were homosexual. Right. So I mean, that's the reason why I'm saying that's kind of like in the midst of things.

And that's, and that's the reason why I guess this topic is hard, because you have the issue of sexual molestation in a black community where people aren't allowed to speak up about what happened to them or parents not listening to their children when they went through that traumatic experience. That's what's saying. It's a whole wide range of things when it comes to that. And then you're talking about children who identified certain ways of they may not be a central male.

Like I said, some people come about their parents nationally. And some people actually may have that molested and may have been confused. You never know how they may have grown up if they it's a difference that had never had. So my thing is there's so many variables to the quiz.

So it's hard for me to put that in with this one thing. I'm gonna bring up something I won't tell y'all my business though. Let me tell you. I'm all with it.

I'm all with it. Good story, but I was saving it for my pie case when I'm keeping it together. So listen. Give me the double bag.

When I was nine years old, my first sexual experience was with a girl. Not by choice. Okay. I was sleeping at this person's house all the time because I'm on birthday night.

So I was sleeping at this person. I was able to family member on another side of the family. But the person, you know, always want to kiss me and stuff. I'm like, oh, I don't like that.

You know, like I'm doing it. So one day we had to sleep together to be it. Then I woke up and my underwear went down and she proceeded to give me oral sex. Okay.

Mind you, she's like two years older than me. I didn't know what was going on. I didn't know if I liked it or if I didn't like it. I was confused.

Like what is going on and why is this happening? Okay. So basically I stopped going to wear it because I was like, what is going on? Well, my mom will always force me to force me to own this person like force me first because she didn't know what's going on and I never opened my mouth about it.

I said so years later, I've never dated a woman after that. I didn't like women. I knew I knew from that moment, I didn't like women. Okay, but it happened to me in my adult years also.

Same type of situation, but I still don't like women. So I don't think it's like when somebody does that to you, it doesn't make you want to do be there. But the confession of it all was the best, the best hand I ever got was from a woman. That doesn't make me like women.

But it does affect you in a time to wait away. It does. It just makes me cautious. Yeah, she don't trust women.

It's not that I don't trust women. I just I'm just cautious when it comes to certain things around women, certain conversations, certain maybe things that you say they might be taking in as long as a context. But I don't think that they didn't make me dislike women. It just made me know that I don't like women like that.

So, okay, so I'm gonna ask for some self disclosure here, Snake. So you said it happened to you again in your adult life? Were you molested at that time? I don't want to use a word molested.

I want to use a word molested. I want to use it. I want to say it right. No, no, no, no.

What would be proper? What would be proper? Drunk. Thank you.

You want to talk about your right mind? It's not about the civil language. You don't drunk. I'ma say that.

And it did happen again. But it did not make me dislike women. It does not make me look at women differently. It means it's for us to even have a conversation about it after it happened like this thing.

I don't like women. That's not what I'm into. And don't do that. It was a done deal.

So, I just think that it just, I said all that to say it just really doesn't make you become something that you're not. If you don't like it, you don't like it. You do like it. When I say it from younger, it was like I knew I didn't like it.

And maybe when it happened this time, maybe I thought I was going like it. Or I questioned myself. Like did you, okay, well maybe I did it, but I don't like women. So, so I'll say this.

Okay, go ahead. No, but I mean, I guess that goes to my point. There's like, you know, we were talking about the way he saw it. He like what he liked.

Nobody pushing on that about it. He saw his day. Day is my mom. You know, this functional, but it is Mary Gabriel.

He never saw his daddy with anything else over there. I mean, even when him and Gabriel broke up, he had a break baby with somebody in their land, a woman in their land. He never saw his daddy. And then take it to the ticket.

This is a, I want to take this. Is it all this, I want to take a ceteroation too? And this may may or may not be some English on my part, but wait, I gotta take two. But like I said, I don't think I said, if any other such man should be getting older to be a tattoo, but I'm okay.

I'm sorry. There's no case I am wrong, but you know, but I'm just saying whole thing is open. Okay, so let's think about this. Let's think about this.

Okay, we say that when you're younger, you know, I can't force you into it. You think that children seeing their parents in bad relationships, they're in the other way? They're good relationship with me? No, they're in bad relationships.

I'm just using this for example, your mother and your father's together. They have three kids. Mother and father always arguing in the house, first thing, arguing. You see a day, she knows your mom all so old things all the time, all the time, all the time.

You know, coming in with new babies and new situations, new problems. Can that steer the young lady that's in the home as a child to say, I hate men and I'm going to be with women? Yeah, that's possible. I'm going to say that's possible because you become a gentleman.

You become a gentleman. Because for what I understand, it's maybe you can go right near my mom, but the first man you fall in love with is your father, right? Right. So if you see this man or two, pull it low and he's constantly mistreating your mom, somebody else that you love.

And he's kind of bringing drama to the house, then their local turned into a hate real person. So that gets to you into a bad relationship or a good relationship, depending on who the person is. How do you feel? Well, that's the thing about it.

But that's what makes them gay. That's what that would make them gay. Did they, did they resign? No, that's the point the bad relationship when I steered them into making them gay.

All that would even do is force them even to be like it. Oh, man, completely opposite of the day. Now they're gay. That's something completely separate.

What about a woman like a day? Sad against? What about a woman like a day? Well, that's the whole thing.

Their sexuality is not a part of their equation. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like I was saying about the way is all this stuff is happening.

It's a little doubtful. And let me say this too. A lot of people think that they don't agree with the LGBTQ community sexuality activity that I guess. I'm just not a part of it.

You know what I'm saying? It's okay not to be a part of it. Yeah. And I just don't agree with the term stuff that they do.

And even in the heterosexual male, I just, you know, that is not my thing. I'm just not there. And I'm not going to agree with it. Probably like 99% of stuff that they talk about.

But what I really agree with is that I do believe that they have the right to, you know, love what they want to do. They want to do. They're going to bring the shit around me. You know, meaning meaning don't try to hit on me and then like that.

Every day, person is like just walking around hitting on people. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying.

But I'm just saying don't bring the shit around. Like, do you know what the case is? I'm not going to be involved in it because I don't, because I'm heterosexual. So, I'm heterosexual.

So that's what it is. When you blow up and you saw me getting all this money and you need a stylist, no, I'm being my old stylish. I'm going to be my old stylish. No, I'm going to be my old stylish.

Tyres. Tyres. Tyres no how to drink my heterosexual male. Tyres no d.

Tyres no d. Still don't know how to drink my homosexual male. My homosexual male don't always drink my homosexual male. What?

Like, like, give me an example. Like who? Well, shoot them little wakers that they would kill you once. I forgot that little dude.

But he, first of all, he would carry it right now. That was a good thing. That was a good thing. Yes, yes, yes.

I'm done. Yes, the question. I am not apart. I don't want the community.

I don't know much about the community. I have a way, probably way more than I need to do. But I don't see a problem with it. I don't have an issue with it.

My stylist will be gay. It's mandatory. That is a part of my application process. I can see that with a mommy.

I can see that with a mommy. You have to be. I will love a gay husband. That's fine.

We don't really have to be together. But we can be together. Okay. You know, I don't have an issue there.

What's the matter? You pay a sufficient, is that the right word to do? The fees? The fees don't.

The fees don't be bothered. That's what it is. Okay. No gay men don't want me.

No real gay men don't want me. I want him. My father will be clean. Everything will be nice.

We'll be together. And guess what? They make some money. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, I've seen that the great in corporate America. Oh, why you say that? Because if you got a heterosexual black male that's apples, they're going to get told up by the white women, the black women, the Latino women.

That's a black white male. So they're not likely to hire a heterosexual black male that's an apple. They're rather higher, a homosexual. There's no Clinton.

In a genetic sense. Really? I'm not a seeped sister. I mean, why?

Wow. I have to look into it. Well, you know, what's the basis of white supremacy, right? You know, genetic for biomes.

Right. Right. I'm still it. I'm just so much saying that.

Yeah. So like if you got somebody that's making money, that's on the same level as the white counterparts and that's a CEO when it's better than them. Who do they go? Who do they go for?

Women like bosses. Women like me. They're going to go for the black male because we, because at the end of the day, when you really look at it, the heterosexual black male, they said to spend it for masculinity. This is so stonaged.

We need a 16. You think the stonaged or is that something that I don't think it's going to. I think it's honesty at its best. So I think that goes back to people not want to come out because of their jobs because of, you know, how the medical will see them and that's how we get the download.

But okay. So let me give you a personal example. Mr. B.

Sean. Oh, don't do that. Okay. But you know what I'm saying?

Don't miss it. All right. Well, that was one example. Okay.

That work out. That worked out well. But the point, but the point that it happened, they're more likely to choose a gay black male than a heterosexual and for their sport. Well, see, that's like about that's because out of those two candidates, one candidate, they probably take over the whole facility.

What can I say? Some people just try to say it. I'm going to say no names, you know what I'm saying? But that's not for born leaders.

Well, I mean, but that's the thing about it. I was just saying what you're saying, Tyler, what my thing is like Snicker, they say, like I said, it's, I figure it's right between the middle of both y'all say it's because of, especially in trying to live up to that role because I think my best is early in the party. They're trying to live up to this role. There's been the fine by them to the community, to the families, to the church and stuff like that and try to live up today because they feel the way they are naturally is not supplies in order to live the best life possible.

So they've been, it's been pushed up on them. I got to get away from that. It's not for that. It's not for that.

It's not for that. It's not for them. When they really want to live in a kind of the West corner, they want to walk it out. So that's about it.

It's like what they leads to them taking long weekend trips with the boys. Not long weekend with the boys. That's what that leads to. That's what that leads to.

God. Okay. But I'm just saying because the thing about it, they feel that's not all the way they could live their life. They got to hide it.

They got to go out of town around town and do that. It's not being truthful. Yeah, they may lose some friends. They may lose some family numbers like that, but they really love them.

They'll come to the truth. That's all I'm saying. So that's why there's a fine line in between. That's all.

Okay. So one more question. So here's the black community accepting the former sexuality. I feel like that's the whole.

It's coming. It's turning around. It's becoming on a issue that's on around. I don't think so.

I'm even like listening to each other. I'm either one way. I'm the stream. I'll go this way.

I'm going that way. If you have to see my face. Let me shake my head. We should have had one today.

No. They're talking. They're talking. They're talking.

They're talking. They're talking. They're talking. They're talking.

They're talking. They're talking. The entire word. But it sort of tho defenetened all the right things listeningHero.

Uh-oh. So you know I'm just hoping that try a lot from Francis. Okay. Okay.

Now I'm about to get out of here because you know I'm very exhausted. I'm a very busy man. You know what I'm saying? Well I will.

You know what I'm saying? Sure. Yes it may be damn good. We should have worked.

Okay. So I have been listening to it video. Yeah. I don't think so.

Well we don't have that. You have to feel right here. Noos. I was like a legal positivity.

Snips, leave us a positive word. Live, love, love, and be great. Mr. Lee Sean.

My positive, what I wanna say, just be true to yourself. Hmm. We don't matter what circles you're moving, no matter what problems you're finding, just one day, be true to yourself, you also see. Right, okay.

So, my other thing, don't worry about what other people think about you because at the end of the day, it don't matter. One thing that matters is what you wanna do, what you wanna accomplish, and let's keep going. Regardless of any type of articles, I don't think only you wait. You can do it.

You definitely can do it. And we just spoke true to power and how much you guys have a good night. Good night. Good night.

Good night.