System 3 & The Art of Strategic Friction for Brands feat. Adam Ferrier (Founder, Thinkerbell)

Episode 21 | Adam Ferrier (Founder, Thinkerbell) “If you want to change behaviour, stop asking people what they want.” In this episode of The Indian AdGeek, we dive deep into the mind of Adam Ferrier, the founder of Thinkerbell (Campaign’s Global Agency of the Year), author of Stop Listening to the Customer and perhaps the only ad man who started his career as a forensic psychologist in a maximum-security prison. Adam joins us to dismantle some of advertising's most prevalent myths. We discuss why hyper-personalisation might be a trap and why "frictionless" isn't always the goal. We also covered: 📺 Thinkerbell model: Why they fired account managers and replaced them with Thinkers and Tinkers. 📺 The Vegemite pitch: How they won a brand that hadn't changed agencies in 70 years. 📺 System 3 thinking: Moving beyond rational vs. emotional to understand how we actually make choices. 📺 Procurement battles: How to sell magic to a line-item world. 📺 Pratfall effect: Can brands get more lovable by owning their flaws — there's even a parallel in Indian romantic poetry. Whether you're a CMO with a dwindling budget or a creative trying to protect the magic, this conversation is a masterclass in psychological leverage. The Indian AvGeek streams on all major podcast apps. Vishal on X Black T-shirts Podcast on The Great Unlearning