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EPISODE · Nov 15, 2025 · 19 MIN

System & Soul: Building a Business Framework That Breathes

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In this episode of Founders Future, with host Milan Kohut, we are joined by McKenzie Reeves Decker, the founder of System and Soul. McKenzie shares her journey from leading a department within the Maxwell Leadership empire to chasing autonomy and co-founding a company that helps growing businesses scale with clarity and accountability. She delves into the core of System and Soul, a flexible operating framework designed for companies with 20+ employees who are facing the complexities of growth. McKenzie emphasizes the importance of a relational, human-centric approach to implementing structure, ensuring that a company's unique culture and soul are preserved in the process.The conversation explores the current state and future ambitions of System and Soul, including their primary focus on serving executive teams through a network of certified business coaches and their proprietary software. McKenzie opens up about the marketing challenges of a service built on trust and relationship, outlining their shift towards founder-led, organic content. Looking ahead, she reveals ambitious goals to impact 25,000 companies by 2030 and discusses the strategic pivot to a SaaS-first model to make their framework more accessible, while also acknowledging the challenges of speed and expertise required to capitalize on these emerging opportunities.

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In this episode of Founders Future, with host Milan Kohut, we are joined by McKenzie Reeves Decker, the founder of System and Soul. McKenzie shares her journey from leading a department within the Maxwell Leadership empire to chasing autonomy and co-founding a company that helps growing businesses scale with clarity and accountability. She delves into the core of System and Soul, a flexible operating framework designed for companies with 20+ employees who are facing the complexities of growth...

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