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EPISODE · Oct 22, 2025 · 22 MIN

Systems Thinking Rant Redux Part II

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Systems thinking isn’t the problem! In the second episode of a three-part series, Squirrel and Jeffrey revisit the contentious discussion around system thinking and their reaction to an article by Ed Braden. They clarify misconceptions about systems thinking, argue its benefits, and propose that it has shifted the 'Overton window' in project management. Links: - Ed Bradon's article: https://worksinprogress.co/issue/magical-systems-thinking/ - Part I of this series: https://soundcloud.com/troubleshootingagile/systems-thinking-rant-redux-part-i - Works in Progress magazine: https://worksinprogress.co/ - Strangler Fig pattern: https://martinfowler.com/bliki/StranglerFigApplication.html - Overton window: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window - Case studies Ed referred to: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/systems-thinking-for-civil-servants/case-studies -------------------------------------------------- You'll find free videos and practice material, plus our book Agile Conversations, at agileconversations.com And we'd love to hear any thoughts, ideas, or feedback you have about the show: email us at [email protected] -------------------------------------------------- About Your Hosts Douglas Squirrel and Jeffrey Fredrick joined forces at TIM Group in 2013, where they studied and practised the art of management through difficult conversations. Over a decade later, they remain united in their passion for growing profitable organisations through better communication. Squirrel is an advisor, author, keynote speaker, coach, and consultant, and he's helped over 300 companies of all sizes make huge, profitable improvements in their culture, skills, and processes. You can find out more about his work here: douglassquirrel.com/index.html Jeffrey is Vice President of Engineering at ION Analytics, Organiser at CITCON, the Continuous Integration and Testing Conference, and is an accomplished author and speaker. You can connect with him here: www.linkedin.com/in/jfredrick/

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