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EPISODE · Aug 13, 2025 · 34 MIN

T. Clay Buck: Relationships Are the Strategy

from Real Talk for Real Fundraisers · host Veritus Group

Fundraising in today’s non-profit world is more challenging—and more rewarding—than ever before. Organizations are facing an unprecedented mix of economic, political, and social pressures, and fundraisers are being asked to navigate it all while keeping their mission moving forward. In this episode of Real Talk for Real Fundraisers, Jeff Schreifels sits down with fundraising veteran T. Clay Buck for a candid (and often hilarious) conversation about what it really takes to succeed right now. Clay kicks things off with a humbling major gift story involving a shattered acrylic chair, then dives into his perspective on why leaning on proven principles, doubling down on relationships, and resisting panic mode are more important than ever. Together, they discuss the critical role of data in donor retention, the need to diversify revenue streams, and the importance of treating donors as true partners in the mission. Clay offers practical, confidence-building advice for avoiding assumptions about donor behavior and instead focusing on authentic, one-to-one connections. This episode is a must-listen for non-profit leaders and frontline fundraisers who want to stay strategic, confident, and deeply connected to their donors—no matter what the current landscape throws their way. Show Highlights: In this episode, you’ll learn about… Why the best, funniest fundraising stories often come from our own experiences How to lean on proven principles when there’s no clear playbook for today’s challenges Why investing in data is essential—and how to see it as informative, not extractive Veritus Group is passionate about partnering with you and your organization throughout your fundraising journey. We believe that the key to transformative fundraising is a disciplined system and structure, trusted accountability, persistence, and a bit of fun. We specialize in mid-level fundraising, major gifts, and planned giving, helping our clients to develop compelling donor offers and to focus on strategic leadership and organizational development. You can learn more about how we can partner with you at www.VeritusGroup.com.  Additional Resources: [Blog] Donor Relationships: A Journey Not a Destination [White Paper] Building a Culture of Philanthropy [Blog] The Deeper Reason Your Donor Gives

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