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EPISODE · Feb 2, 2023 · 58 MIN

Tailwind Twitter Wars and the State of JS

from Whiskey Web and Whatnot

The developer community can be highly opinionated. We find our favorite tools and fiercely support them because they help us meet our goals. Tailwind has been polarizing since it launched in 2017. Some developers swear by it, claiming it makes their code cleaner while others think it’s a waste of time. The State of JS results are in and they reveal that Ember is still lagging behind in retention, interest, usage, and awareness compared to other frameworks. Chuck and Robbie agree that it doesn't really matter what framework you use, as long as you are productive and have a reusable, understandable way of working. In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the polarizing debates in the developer community surrounding Tailwind CSS on Twitter, the results of the 2023 State of JS survey, and their favorite shows. Key Takeaways [01:33] - A whiskey review - Wolves X Undeated Signature Blend. [11:17] - Recent Tailwind wars on Twitter. [20:03] - Chuck and Robbie review the State of JS survey. [44:50] - How Chuck and Robbie enjoyed their holiday. Quotes [14:29] - “I started back in the day, and you did inline styles with tables to make your Photoshop slices work out, you know what I mean? Couldn't get any uglier than that.” ~ Chuck Carpenter [19:44] - “Sometimes you just don't get to win all the battles. That's just part of software engineering.” ~ Chuck Carpenter [27:10] - “I think in general, everything is becoming there's less resistance on all fronts. Like you don't have to have a CS degree, whereas they might have looked at that before.” Robbie Wagner Links Warner Bros. Looney Tunes Sour Patch Kids State of JS Tailwind Twitter Wolves X Undeated Signature Blend Undefeated Willett Distillery Sam Selikoff Wes Bos Vim Craftsman DeWalt React Nuxt PWA The Hacker News Crayon Ember Vue Next.js Vite Vitest ESBuild Playwright PNPM Svelte Facebook NPM Cypress Webpack Hipster Ponto Tech Dev.To Soft Skills Engineering Angular Plus Show The Walking Dead Gone With the Wind Law and Order: SVU The Vow White Lotus HBO Max The Witcher Nintendo Switch Gwent Zelda Harry Potter: Hogwarts Legacy Universal Studios EPL Fan Fest FIFA: World Cup Qatar 2022 Connect with our hosts Robbie Wagner Chuck Carpenter Ship Shape Subscribe and stay in touch Apple Podcasts Spotify Google Podcasts Whiskey Web and Whatnot Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

The developer community can be highly opinionated. We find our favorite tools and fiercely support them because they help us meet our goals. Tailwind has been polarizing since it launched in 2017. Some developers swear by it, claiming it makes their code cleaner while others think it’s a waste of time. The State of JS results are in and they reveal that Ember is still lagging behind in retention, interest, usage, and awareness compared to other frameworks. Chuck and Robbie agree that it doesn't really matter what framework you use, as long as you are productive and have a reusable, understandable way of working. In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the polarizing debates in the developer community surrounding Tailwind CSS on Twitter, the results of the 2023 State of JS survey, and their favorite shows. Key Takeaways [01:33] - A whiskey review - Wolves X Undeated Signature Blend. [11:17] - Recent Tailwind wars on Twitter. [20:03] - Chuck and Robbie review the State of JS survey. [44:50] - How Chuck and Robbie enjoyed their holiday. Quotes [14:29] - “I started back in the day, and you did inline styles with tables to make your Photoshop slices work out, you know what I mean? Couldn't get any uglier than that.” ~ Chuck Carpenter [19:44] - “Sometimes you just don't get to win all the battles. That's just part of software engineering.” ~ Chuck Carpenter [27:10] - “I think in general, everything is becoming there's less resistance on all fronts. Like you don't have to have a CS degree, whereas they might have looked at that before.” Robbie Wagner Links Warner Bros. Looney Tunes Sour Patch Kids State of JS Tailwind Twitter Wolves X Undeated Signature Blend Undefeated Willett Distillery Sam Selikoff Wes Bos Vim Craftsman DeWalt React Nuxt PWA The Hacker News Crayon Ember Vue Next.js Vite Vitest ESBuild Playwright PNPM Svelte Facebook NPM Cypress Webpack Hipster Ponto Tech Dev.To Soft Skills Engineering Angular Plus Show The Walking Dead Gone With the Wind Law and Order: SVU The Vow White Lotus HBO Max The Witcher Nintendo Switch Gwent Zelda Harry Potter: Hogwarts Legacy Universal Studios EPL Fan Fest FIFA: World Cup Qatar 2022 Connect with our hosts Robbie Wagner Chuck Carpenter Ship Shape Subscribe and stay in touch Apple Podcasts Spotify Google Podcasts Whiskey Web and Whatnot Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

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