“Take the tools and ingredients you've got and see what new things you can make with them,” Ali Killaly, Founder of Workpants

The shift from being employed to self-employed is a unique experience that, quite simply, if you haven’t been through it’s almost impossible to explain the gut-wrenching, soul growing, soul destroying, exhilarating, terrifying feels it brings – but today’s guest really gets all sides of employment. Her name is Ali Killaly and she’s the founder of career counselling organisation Workpants, and her story of coming to build and now scale her incredible business will leave you feeling seen and inspired for wherever you’re at with yours. You’ll hear about: The less than linear path to finding your Ikigai in business Going full circle in your career path The experience of reframing your professional identity Developing the business you need in real time The role your ego plays in business and how to tame it Working through the uncomfortable yet exhilarating daily experience of building a business you’re passionate about The value of manufacturing a catalyst to push you to take the steps you need to What outsourcing can take away from you in the initial building phases of your business And learning to lean into your scrappy side Growing your own small-business can be one of the most gratifying, wonderful, life-changing experiences around. It’s also scary as hell. We’re here for you, the ones who have made the brave decision to employ themselves anyway. Connect with Ali and Workpants on IG @_workpants Check out the Workpants Website at workpants.com.au Listen to the Workpants Podcast wherever you pod You can find the conversation transcript at unemployedandafraid.com.au/episodes. And don’t forget to follow Unemployed & Afraid on IG , Threads and LinkedIn Join our Facebook Group And show your support for this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod You can reach your host on email [email protected] on IG on LinkedIn or via unemployedandafraid.com.auSupport the show by shouting me a cuppa (or 2): https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.