Talking Dateline: Running Man

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Blayne Alexander talks with Andrea Canning about her episode, “Running Man.” When the remains of Ontario mother Ashley Schwalm were found inside a burned-out car in 2023, investigators narrowed in on her firefighter husband and the careful steps he took to try to get away with her murder. Andrea talks about reporting on a case in her hometown and her unexpected, yet personal, connection to the women and children’s shelter My Friend’s House. Blayne and Andrea play a podcast-exclusive clip about the Sunflower Fund established in Ashley’s honor. Plus, Dateline producer Lynn Keller joins to answer social media questions.Have a question for Talking Dateline? DM us a video to @DatelineNBC or leave a voicemail at (212) 413-5252. Your question may be featured in an upcoming episode.Listen to the full episode “Running Man” on Apple:https://apple.co/43BaM6uListen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/episode/2ngU2A0Jnu1TyjdiuUDiymGet resources on domestic violence: https://www.thehotline.org/Check out NBC’s The More You Know Campaign on domestic violence featuring the Dateline correspondents: https://www.themoreyouknow.com/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Blayne Alexander talks with Andrea Canning about her episode, “Running Man.” When the remains of Ontario mother Ashley Schwalm were found inside a burned-out car in 2023, investigators narrowed in on her firefighter husband and the careful steps he took to try to get away with her murder. Andrea talks about reporting on a case in her hometown and her unexpected, yet personal, connection to the women and children’s shelter My Friend’s House. Blayne and Andrea play a podcast-exclusive clip about the Sunflower Fund established in Ashley’s honor. Plus, Dateline producer Lynn Keller joins to answer social media questions. Have a question for Talking Dateline? DM us a video to @DatelineNBC or leave a voicemail at (212) 413-5252. Your question may be featured in an upcoming episode. Listen to the full episode “Running Man” on Apple: https://apple.co/43BaM6u Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2ngU2A0Jnu1TyjdiuUDiym Get resources on domestic violence: https://www.thehotline.org/ Check out NBC’s The More You Know Campaign on domestic violence featuring the Dateline correspondents: https://www.themoreyouknow.com/

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