TAYLOR SWIFT TIME! Rob Sheffield, Rolling Stone writer and author of the new book Heartbreak is the National Anthem: How Taylor Swift Reinvented Pop Music joins us to talk Taylors ups, downs and what made her a LEGEND!

THURSDAY! I'm in geek heaven today! Rob Sheffield, long time contributing editor at Rolling Stone, is here to talk about his new amazing book Heartbreak is the National Anthem: How Taylor Swift Reinvented Pop Music https://a.co/d/9kdOPPW! This was the best conversation about someone who I respect so much for what she means to music and pop culture, Taylor Swift! Also, on a sidenote, I have been a fan of Mr. Sheffield's work since the early aughts and it BLOWS MY MIND that i got to talk with him and even made him laugh! Also, want to highly recommend his other books especially Love Is A Mixtape! Go read this new one and then dive into his back catalogue. YOU WILL THANK ME! Also, Thank you for being here! Also, just released a 2 hour VPR Season 2 Episode 2 Recap, a 1.5 hour mashup of songs, a 2.5 hour q&a on our patreon. Join our patreon at https://www.patreon.com/c/sobaditsgood!!) Sign up for our substack for free! https://sobaditsgoodryanbailey.substack.com Also, this show and every show is dedicated to my beautiful mom Rebecca Ann Bailey-July 18th, 1948-August 25, 2023  Timestamtamps: :37-Show Notes/Rob Sheffield/Taylor musings 17:00-Rob Sheffield -Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos -Go sign up for the patreon for over 350 episodes NOT on the main feed! https://www.patreon.com/sobaditsgood Also, So Bad It's Good has merch now! Go to www.sobaditsgoodmerch.com to order yours TODAY! If you’re enjoying the insane amount of blood, sweat and literal tears of this pod consider telling a friend or rating us 5 stars on iTunes! Special shoutout to Maritza Lopez (Insta: @maritza.gif) for all of her insanely hard work creating these beautiful pieces of art on my instagram and patreon page!!  Instagram: @sobaditsgoodwithryanbailey, @ryanbailey25 Twitter:@ryanabailey25 TIKTOK @sobaditsgoodwithryanb. Hope you enjoy it!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices