EPISODE · Jul 25, 2026 · 1H 13M
Taylor Swift vs. Michael Jackson & The Ethics of Art
from Rattleship: The Self Care Podcast · host Zac Shipley and Al Shipley
Welcome to Episode 3 of The Total Ship Show! This week, brothers Zac and Al Shipley sweat through the July heat wave to debate a massive pop culture question: Is Michael Jackson's peak still historically bigger than Taylor Swift's global dominance today?We dive deep into:• Summer music festival formats (and why locals always complain about changes).• Why the streaming era forces modern artists to work twice as hard for their numbers.• The unreleased 90s vaults of bands like Soul Coughing and Ben Folds Five.• The ultimate dilemma: How do we separate the art from the artist when it comes to figures like Michael Jackson, Louis C.K., and J.K. Rowling?Tell us in the comments—does anyone actually top Thriller-era Michael Jackson, or has the Eras Tour officially crowned a new queen of pop? FOLLOW US & LINKS:https://linktr.ee/totalshipshow#TheShipShow #TaylorSwift #MichaelJackson #PopMusic #MusicPodcast #Concerts #Vinyl #ErasTour #Thriller
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Welcome to Episode 3 of The Total Ship Show! This week, brothers Zac and Al Shipley sweat through the July heat wave to debate a massive pop culture question: Is Michael Jackson's peak still historically bigger than Taylor Swift's global dominance today? We dive deep into: • Summer music festival formats (and why locals always complain about changes). • Why the streaming era forces modern artists to work twice as hard for their numbers. • The unreleased 90s vaults of bands like Soul Coughing...
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