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EPISODE · Mar 7, 2015

TbP 18: Aesthetes

from Talking bout Practice: a podcast · host Billy Ray Stupendous & Th Mza

download on iTunes Went ahead and annotated this one, since it's a Saturday a.m. & I'm ill & industrious, and idle hands are th devil's playthings.  My initial idea was to encourage discussion bout how beauty can be this world's most powerful idea -- that, Helen aside, human people are launching 1,000 ships every hour on behalf of their versions of beauty -- that, @ core, most fights can be reduced to incompatible visions of what beautiful means and what ugly means.  That discussion never happened in an explicit way here, though it is nestled incognito under th discussion that did happen.  Billy Ray Stupendous & I could not be more pleased w/ th results.  We are joined this week by two luminaries of th el gay planet -- Jinx Malone and Mister Eden -- whose imprints on my own consciousness are deep not due to in-yr-face proselytizing, sensory bombardment, or even daily familiarity -- both remain, to my mind, foreigners who vacation in whatever country mine is -- but rather through th consistent, insistent, sneaky internal logic(s) of their worldviews ⚡⚡⚡⚡ Table of contents: 00:00:00  "Cannibal Holocaust (Main Theme)" composed & conducted by Riz Ortolani 00:02:55  Intro guests | vague outline of topic | Oscar Wilde quote re shooting piano players | personal aesthetics vs branding  00:10:21  A very horror childhood | "... goofy ... visceral excitement ..." | th devaluation of fandom 00:13:24  False memory | psychosexual childhood | th Hammer Films dynasty  00:19:00  Obsession | Blue Velvet (David Lynch 1986), dayface, & nightface 00:22:22  The Hidden Observer | neurosis or superpower | th writerly attitude | th universal fascinating inner life 00:27:33  Driven by unseen forces vs conspicuous curation | not-caring vs caring | ⚡millennials⚡, YOLO, FOMO, & Burning Man 00:34:51  Infinite, oceanic, & eternal | virtuous buzzkill | "You should feel the horror" | Cannibal Holocaust (Ruggero Deodato 1980) | "disgusting hipster irony bullshit" | Inland Empire (Lynch 2006) 00:40:08  Billy's reclusive cinemania | MZA's risk advocacy | Jason X (Jim Isaac 2002) | black audiences | movies as sports 00:44:44  Fulci vs Romero | Burial Ground: the Nights of Terror (Andrea Bianchi 1981) | Blind Dead series | The Exorcist (William Friedkin 1973) vs Rosemary's Baby (Roman Polanski 1968)  00:51:24  Cinemaphobias | :poop: | rape | Mike Kitchell shoutout  00:58:39  Th end of sex & violence | economics of inoffense | Quentin Tarantino | Jackie Brown (Tarantino 1997) | talent in bad films  01:07:11  Talking bout practice in bad films | Jess Franco & visual passion | th virtue of knowing what you're getting into | unstoppable zoom on bush | Barbed Wire Dolls (Jesús Franco 1975) | God's Gun (Gianfranco Parolini 1975) 01:15:00 Patrick McGoohan | Scanners (David Cronenberg 1981) | Jinx's shrine to the Paddy | "destructive glee"  01:18:49  Regarding television | Columbo | Peter Falk, Hollywood rebel | Twin Peaks | "exasperated by the episodic nature of TV" | Breaking Bad etc | compactness of cinema vs cultural sprawl | British TV | Lost 01:30:33  Feature-length film's incompatibility w/ th novel | talking bout adaptations | novels vs short stories | writing for no audience | Zombieland (Ruben Fleischer 2009) 01:37:42  Return to Driven by Unseen Forces | anthology of el jay writing | honesty, unself-consciousness, Jess Franco, accidents, & el jay | ello.com | "zone of sincerity"  01:45:07  On being part of no movement | kommentude & th "accidental discovery of something unplanned" | "the sister I wish I had" | song discussion | farewell adieu 01:51:08  Bonus Track: "Giu' la Testa" composed & conducted by Ennio Morricone

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download on iTunes Went ahead and annotated this one, since it's a Saturday a.m. & I'm ill & industrious, and idle hands are th devil's playthings.  My initial idea was to encourage discussion bout how beauty can be this world's most powerful idea -- that, Helen aside, human people are launching 1,000 ships every hour on behalf of their versions of beauty -- that, @ core, most fights can be reduced to incompatible visions of what beautiful means and what ugly means.  That discussion never happened in an explicit way here, though it is nestled incognito under th discussion that did happen.  Billy Ray Stupendous & I could not be more pleased w/ th results.  We are joined this week by two luminaries of th el gay planet -- Jinx Malone and Mister Eden -- whose imprints on my own consciousness are deep not due to in-yr-face proselytizing, sensory bombardment, or even daily familiarity -- both remain, to my mind, foreigners who vacation in whatever country mine is -- but rather through th consistent, insistent, sneaky internal logic(s) of their worldviews ⚡⚡⚡⚡ Table of contents: 00:00:00  "Cannibal Holocaust (Main Theme)" composed & conducted by Riz Ortolani 00:02:55  Intro guests | vague outline of topic | Oscar Wilde quote re shooting piano players | personal aesthetics vs branding  00:10:21  A very horror childhood | "... goofy ... visceral excitement ..." | th devaluation of fandom 00:13:24  False memory | psychosexual childhood | th Hammer Films dynasty  00:19:00  Obsession | Blue Velvet (David Lynch 1986), dayface, & nightface 00:22:22  The Hidden Observer | neurosis or superpower | th writerly attitude | th universal fascinating inner life 00:27:33  Driven by unseen forces vs conspicuous curation | not-caring vs caring | ⚡millennials⚡, YOLO, FOMO, & Burning Man 00:34:51  Infinite, oceanic, & eternal | virtuous buzzkill | "You should feel the horror" | Cannibal Holocaust (Ruggero Deodato 1980) | "disgusting hipster irony bullshit" | Inland Empire (Lynch 2006) 00:40:08  Billy's reclusive cinemania | MZA's risk advocacy | Jason X (Jim Isaac 2002) | black audiences | movies as sports 00:44:44  Fulci vs Romero | Burial Ground: the Nights of Terror (Andrea Bianchi 1981) | Blind Dead series | The Exorcist (William Friedkin 1973) vs Rosemary's Baby (Roman Polanski 1968)  00:51:24  Cinemaphobias | :poop: | rape | Mike Kitchell shoutout  00:58:39  Th end of sex & violence | economics of inoffense | Quentin Tarantino | Jackie Brown (Tarantino 1997) | talent in bad films  01:07:11  Talking bout practice in bad films | Jess Franco & visual passion | th virtue of knowing what you're getting into | unstoppable zoom on bush | Barbed Wire Dolls (Jesús Franco 1975) | God's Gun (Gianfranco Parolini 1975) 01:15:00 Patrick McGoohan | Scanners (David Cronenberg 1981) | Jinx's shrine to the Paddy | "destructive glee"  01:18:49  Regarding television | Columbo | Peter Falk, Hollywood rebel | Twin Peaks | "exasperated by the episodic nature of TV" | Breaking Bad etc | compactness of cinema vs cultural sprawl | British TV | Lost 01:30:33  Feature-length film's incompatibility w/ th novel | talking bout adaptations | novels vs short stories | writing for no audience | Zombieland (Ruben Fleischer 2009) 01:37:42  Return to Driven by Unseen Forces | anthology of el jay writing | honesty, unself-consciousness, Jess Franco, accidents, & el jay | ello.com | "zone of sincerity"  01:45:07  On being part of no movement | kommentude & th "accidental discovery of something unplanned" | "the sister I wish I had" | song discussion | farewell adieu 01:51:08  Bonus Track: "Giu' la Testa" composed & conducted by Ennio Morricone

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