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EPISODE · Sep 25, 2025 · 51 MIN

‘Technology is the lure’: Kirk McKinzie talks FF recruitment

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“If it doesn't have a touchscreen on it, I'm not using it.” That’s the message from some digital natives unsure about whether a traditionally tactile profession like the fire service is right for them. But as tech-expert Captain Kirk McKinzie explains, with the current pace of technology, there are countless opportunities for more tech-minded individuals in the fire service, and quite frankly, we must connect with them to keep up. In this way, technology can be the carrot for the next generation. We geek out about how to make this happen, plus AI, drones, VTOL EMS aircraft, predictive analytics, zero-visibility decision-making, gamification, extended reality training, even fire suppression catapults. And don’t miss: The tech that most exceeds McKinzie’s expectations The legacy tool that’s here to stay Why “Inspector Gadget” is the ultimate job Resources we discussed: San Bernardino County Fire Protection District Technology Plan 2030 IAFC Technology Council and TechTalkTuesdays Technology Summit International 2025 This episode of the Better Every Shift Podcast is sponsored by TheFireStore. Learn more about getting the gear you need at prices you can afford by visiting TheFireStore. Enjoying the show? Please take a moment to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts. You can also follow the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen to your podcasts. And email [email protected] to share your feedback.

“If it doesn't have a touchscreen on it, I'm not using it.” That’s the message from some digital natives unsure about whether a traditionally tactile profession like the fire service is right for them. But as tech-expert Captain Kirk McKinzie explains, with the current pace of technology, there are countless opportunities for more tech-minded individuals in the fire service, and quite frankly, we must connect with them to keep up. In this way, technology can be the carrot for the next generation. We geek out about how to make this happen, plus AI, drones, VTOL EMS aircraft, predictive analytics, zero-visibility decision-making, gamification, extended reality training, even fire suppression catapults. And don’t miss: The tech that most exceeds McKinzie’s expectations The legacy tool that’s here to stay Why “Inspector Gadget” is the ultimate job Resources we discussed: San Bernardino County Fire Protection District Technology Plan 2030 IAFC Technology Council and TechTalkTuesdays Technology Summit International 2025 This episode of the Better Every Shift Podcast is sponsored by TheFireStore. Learn more about getting the gear you need at prices you can afford by visiting TheFireStore. Enjoying the show? Please take a moment to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts. You can also follow the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen to your podcasts. And email [email protected] to share your feedback.

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