Hi, I'm Megan Sagura and I'm Eric J. Matt and this is the Daily Dish Robbo's official podcast. Okay, so we have a lot to talk about today. Primarily, I want to start with the Real Housewives of New York City trailer, which dropped last week.
Yes. What did you think? They kill me every time the people that added these trailers. Yeah.
Like I just, the music is always like some amazing like, like, like, like, like, like, like, circusy. Yeah. And I mean, all I can think about is Sonya squatting in a cornfield. Right.
Well, there are a couple moments I think like that that stand out. And I think that is Sonya letting her dog like lick the inside of her mouth, which I am not as offended by that as many people are. I don't even have an animal. And I know you would probably never let Penny do that, but.
Okay. So then let me let me in. I have a dog. You see them lick all parts of themselves.
You see them eat random things off the street. I mean, I don't think I would let the dog lick the inside of my mouth, but, you know, if they like kiss my face, kiss on the cheek is fine. Yeah. If it touches a lip, I'm not going to freak out about it.
But yeah, I mean, it's just that Sonya, you know, we've seen her like brushing her dog's hair on the bus that takes her. See, that is not weird to me. It's just hair. Who she is, very like Grey Gardens, you know, I gassed and I know you did too.
When we see Luann consciously decide to drink the vodka. It's such a moment because you see her make that choice. And from what we know now, Luann has opened up in the press about drinking responsibly again. So we know that her probation is over.
Her legal issues are behind her. And she is going to start incorporating that back into her lifestyle. Yeah. I mean, I think it kind of goes to something I think I've mentioned before that I never thought that Luann thought she had a drinking problem.
This is something that she had to do for court. Right. And I think we've had Tinsley on the show before and we've spoken to some of the other Roni ladies about the situation and a lot of them don't necessarily feel like she has an alcohol problem. But obviously we're going to see how this newly adapted lifestyle works out for Luann.
Right. We have a new housewife, Liam Exuini. I think I like her. I like her.
I kind of already, as gay as I am, kind of want to make out with her. Oh, what? I don't know. There's something about her energy that someone actually one of the fans, our listeners replied saying she has big dick energy.
And I was like, I think that's true. There's something about her that there's a conflict. There's a confidence. There's sort of this badass quality that, you know, a Bravo Connie spoke to Derinda and she was raving about her saying that, you know, Derinda thought she was the tough girl, but then she met Leah and Leah is kind of more of that vibe, even more so than Derinda.
So I don't know. There's something she's got big dick energy. Okay. Promise me that if you interview her for the podcast, you will tell her that you wanted to make out with her.
Definitely. I think we see her make out with Tinsley in the trailer. So I can also just say, you know, how was that? I'm interested to know about that experience.
What did it feel like to kiss you? Right. We also, there was some really fun activity on social media around the Roni trailer drop. So Emily, who helps to produce this podcast, her friend took a wedding photo with all of her bridesmaids holding apples and waited until the trailer dropped to post that on her social media.
So I thought that was really funny. Her friend Alison, it was really good. But also I tweeted, you know how there's this trend right now where you post a picture of somebody and you say, who is this wrong answers only? Yeah.
So I did this with the new Roni cast picture and watch what happens live retweeted me. So I got some pretty amazing replies. A couple from Miriam here, pretty little liars. Which like it kind of looks like some of their cast promo photos.
Pretty little liars also good morning Upper East Siders. This is the gossip girl cast. The Supreme Court justices of the United States. Okay.
It's one that I really liked. The cast of Little Women. Nice. Someone else replied, Andrew Lyons, I'm so happy the pussy cat dolls are back together.
He'll. So that was really fun. One last thing. Love Durenda so much.
She's giving me a little mama D vibes in the promo photo. Something about the outfit and the hair. It kind of reminds me more of Wendy and addressed up like mama D last season on Dallas, but I don't know about the promo photo. I feel like a photo I saw of her.
I think maybe it was her cast photo and I thought to myself she looks younger each year. Yeah, she looks really good. Maybe it's ageless by Ramona. No, she has her same care routine up on Bravo.
Oh, lots of moisturizer. That's the key. Hydration and moisturizer. All right.
So what else are we talking about today? Well, we need to talk about Vanderpump Rules. Real Housewives of New Jersey because they're at the Jersey Shore and below Deck Ring Union Part Two. Plus you interviewed both Stassi Schroeder from Vanderpump Rules and Kyle Cook and Amanda Petula from Summer House.
Sure did. And of course, the words and the one. Okay, let's get into Vanderpump Rules. We've got some pasta problems.
Pasta problems. Cute. Well, I was first of all very glad to see that there was so much by pride happening at the beginning of the episode when they're celebrating and it's all that. I'd love to see Ariana owning it and being so excited about it.
We've talked about it on the podcast before where there's a situation in the LGBTQA plus community where there can often be by erasure and it's sort of a sexuality that people strongly identify with. It is their identifier and it's often overlooked by the other ones. So I was glad to see that at least. Yeah.
I'm curious to see how you felt about it. Yeah. Well, what I kind of took away from the whole thing was it's sort of an example of Ciz privilege. If you remember a couple of seasons ago, was it last season or the season before when Billy Lee was a, you know, last season?
She was saying to La La, that Ciz privilege that Ciz privilege and La La was like that. I'm not listening to that. But I think this is an even better example of Ciz privilege because what Brittany and Jax keep coming back to are, you know, why is everyone so mad? It wasn't us.
Like we didn't say it. It was him. And the issue was that they knew he made those comments, didn't do anything about it. And it sort of took Lisa to say something for them to take action.
So the reason it says privilege is because his comments didn't affect them and who they are. So I don't think they took it as seriously in the beginning. And Brittany says she reached out to him and he said, I never said that, but there were receipts and we do know that Brittany and Jax are active enough on social media that they probably saw some of the additional comments that were made because of people tagging them. So I think for them to replace the pastor was the right move.
Okay. This is my thought process as watching it. On Facebook, I am friends with a lot of family members and people I've known throughout my life, you know, in Texas. A lot of people among that list have very different views of the world and often say things that I don't co-sign and I don't agree with.
And I thought to myself watching this episode, do I have a responsibility to unfriend those people because right? Like don't we all have people in our life that we're like, I'm not going to change them. They're not going to change me. Yeah.
Well, I think that's the issue that Brittany keeps bringing up. She's like, I am stuck between these two worlds. I live in LA. It is a bubble.
I have gay friends. I have my own beliefs, but I'm also from Kentucky where my family is very Christian and they're very conservative in their political views and all sorts of things. So I think you're kind of in a similar space, you know, being where you're from and the people that you grew up with and all that. And it's the same for everyone.
I mean, even where I'm from, which is not the South or whatever it may be. And you know, I think the idea of a responsibility gets tricky. I don't know if you necessarily have a responsibility to unfollow them unless you're offended by what they're saying, then you have the power to be able to do that. But I think if you were then to involve one of those people in your life in a way to put them in a situation where they'd be around gay people or whoever it is that they're against, you have the responsibility to recognize that that might affect other people.
And I think that's where Brittany and Jacks are getting caught up is they don't really understand. I think later on in the episode, Jack says something, you know, about, well, why should it matter who I have marry me? And it's just so Jacks of him to say that because it does matter, but he doesn't have to worry about that. But do you think it's because he's on the show that he should have to?
I think it's both being on the show. And it's also, you know, being friends with Ariana and they've had a whole issue this season about Ariana being bisexual and identifying bisexual as a bisexual and owning that and him calling her lesbian on what happens live, not understanding her relationship with Tom. There's all sorts of these things that, you know, he should accept that there are people who will be affected by knowing that if they go on to the wedding and they knew this pastor had said all of these things and then they're in his presence, like there's probably going to be people who are uncomfortable. Like if Lance Bass had been invited and not been the pastor, what would he and his husband think about them choosing him?
Right. Even Lisa as an LGBT, I mean, she's always been a proponent of that community of our community. So it's just kind of, you know, it's a little bit of both, I think. With a place I think that Tom went wrong is like, look, I, as I explain, I can sort of see where Brittany's coming from in a way that she's like, this is basically a family member for me.
Like, and yeah, he has said messed up things, you know, like what am I supposed to do? And then, you know, I think Lisa being like, I'm gonna tell you what you should do. Right. You know, okay.
He said really offensive remarks and I just think that you should investigate it. I did be one comment back in the day that he like, probably that he was not homophobic. I don't want him to be broke here with that. Then they tell everyone, so we got Lance Bass, he's going to marry us.
Which amazing. Amazing. So why the F is Tom Sandoval feeling the need to like twist the knife and do like a situation that is already sensitive and it's like to make Brittany and Jack look extra bad or to make himself the martyr. Exactly.
I think it was really poor timing. And when I spoke to Ariana a couple weeks ago, she often, she said that he often will act before kind of thinking and he is very emotional and a reactive person. And then he takes a step back and thinks about, okay, maybe I shouldn't have done it that way. Like his text is Tossy, for example.
I think this was just very poor timing and it was almost too little too late because they had already replaced him. Like if it had been a conversation he had had weeks ago or months ago at this point because some of the first tweets came out around December January and this is already almost into June, I think. Yeah. So there was a huge window of opportunity for him to have that conversation with Jack and Brittany and even for Ariana to be a part of it and to be able to express her feelings.
And so I think what were the intentions there and I think you kind of hit the nail on the head, it was maybe a little bit to make them look bad or at least to make him look better. I think it's maybe more so the idea like he wanted to be the one to say like, look at me, I'm being an ally here by calling this out and we're grateful for that. But it should have happened a lot sooner. Yeah.
I don't know. It just feels like in that moment I was just like, you stand up all truly friends with any of these people. You know, when I spoke to Ariana, she kind of had the same comment when she was like, my relationship with Tom and the way it is only comes up in this group of my friends. Like my other friends don't talk about us this way.
So it does feel as though there is a bit of a divide and it's only getting wider as these seasons go on. One other thing to think about, I have a recommendation for Brittany. Turn off commenting on your posts. Yeah.
She's too fragile. I just don't think you need to welcome that into your world anymore. Yeah. And knowing just the sign at her patch, Loretta party that triggered her, the comments that she must see all day long in her DMs on her, just you know what, either back away from social media or turn off the commenting.
Yeah. It's just going to be better for you in the long run. Right. What did you think of her Princess themed shower?
I think it was very Brittany. Right? Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm much more of the Stassi brand where I'd rather have like a game of Thrones themed like ice cream party like she did last season.
But I mean, what's more Brittany than having actual Disney princesses who refuse to break character, which that is so the case. Like, if you go to Disney World or Disneyland and you try to get them to like break, they won't do it. They work harder than a lot of people. I mean, sometimes you want to be like, Hey, even Stassi was like, if you guys want to get wasted, please do.
And they're like, Oh, we could never. Never. Well, the dwarves thing. Exactly.
You want to get wasted. You could be drunk in Princesses. Feel free to just like your princessy self. But I did appreciate, you know, everyone is very much catering to you.
Everything to Brittany's needs and desires and trying to make this the best moment of her life because what else are you going to do? And kind of like James Kennedy points out in this episode, everyone's a little bit walking on eggshells around Jackson Brittany right now because especially Peter who I just felt like took it way too far. Like, you know, I'm in Jack's wedding. I take that seriously.
I can't have you at my birthday. I think it might upset Jack. He's like, on a good note, I'd like to invite you to my birthday party. Oh, good.
I was like, great. Awesome. But you can't bring James. Oh, great.
Why not? Because he's a groomsman to Jack's and he doesn't want to upset Jack's by having James there. I take being a groomsman. Very serious.
Okay. Sorry. I know. Like Peter.
Oh my God. I know. I mean, to also have invited James last year and now to not inviting him and it's a whole thing with Jack, you know, it's just so stupid. Everyone's being a little delicate, but you know, I think Jackson is kind of being a grooms zilla in a sense and Brittany is very sensitive at the moment.
So and this is the one time I think that you are a bit allowed to behave like that because it is your wedding. It's like one time only. Yeah. It's like, all right, we do have to excuse it a little bit because we've all been in positions where you've been around a bride or a groom and it's coming up.
I mean, look at Danielle, Sob, last season of Jersey, you know, Margaret, like ruined their friendship. Yeah. But you got a little bit lean into it because that's just how it is. One thing to end on is I really love Dana, but I'm so not invested in her relationship with Max.
I just don't feel like we know them enough. I know, but I feel like we know enough to know that I think Dana is cool. I don't think Max is as cool as he thinks he is. Also, they went to bed without having sex.
I thought that was weird. Well, maybe they just waited till the cameras left the room. Oh, I guess that's true. But it's also, I can't even imagine when I've already seen those scenes where it's like them waking up in the morning or them going to bed.
I'm like, that has to be one of the more awkward moments of like having a crew in the room with you. You're just like, okay, okay, I'm turning right off now. Are you guys done? Are you guys done?
We're just like, we'll lock the door to our ring. So I got the chance to sit down with Vanderpump rules, Stossy Schroeder. We talk about her behind the scenes friendship with Tom Sandoval, her tip with Lala over similar wedding colors that came out of BravoCon. And if she'll repair her friendship with Kristen, plus she gives us a hint on who will be officiating her wedding.
Let's take a listen. Welcome, Stossy Schroeder. Thank you. You guys always get me in trouble.
Cool. Well, I'm going to start with a really innocent question. What's up with Sandoval? I mean, guys, I feel like I've seen this for eight years.
So when people are just like, what's going on with Sandoval? I'm like, he's always been like that to me. Yeah. This isn't really anything new.
I think with this infamous book potty, I think he's just like really doesn't, he doesn't want to apologize to me. I think the thought of saying sorry to me just hurts so bad that he'd rather just like double down on it and just continue. Yeah. It's all about that.
And I think I think I mean, I've always gotten the sense he didn't like me. Yeah. But it's like then going to the day of Brittany's bridal shower and Peter's birthday party after it just seems like he's always. Oh, yes.
I forgot all about that. Yes. Okay. It just seems like he doesn't like anyone in the group anymore.
I think a lot of us had been feeling that way about him. Like when you see like the first episode that aired of this season, Jax is trying to explain like you haven't really been there. Like you haven't like Jax is supposed to be one of his best friends. He's never been invited over to his home.
So I think we're all kind of feeling like do either of you guys ever want to hang out with us because you guys just hang out with all of these randoms 24 seven and we're never included. Yeah. And in a weird twist, Ariana is like closest to Kristin now. Yeah.
It's like what game is everyone playing? I didn't get the memo for it. It's all it's all very weird. Yeah.
I've always said this though. Tom and Ariana love an underdog I say to their faces. I say all the time, Kristin's an underdog right now. So of course let me scoop you up and help you.
It's like that it's so it's to me. It's just so obvious. Okay. So we last spoke at BravoCon and I was interviewing you and some of the others and you in law reveal that you had a little squabble because she picked your same wedding colors after she said she would never want that.
So that was the issue. No, no, that was the issue. Either way, I think it's an issue. It's no.
If she had said I want my bridesmaids and white and ivory and I have a very clear vision for that and what I want from my wedding now and I had told her that and she's like, oh my god, I would never do that. I would never let anyone wear white to my wedding. It was just a very like, of course you wouldn't. You're law lot.
Like I get it. She's like, I want like metallics or like blush color and we, you know, talked about it. It's fun to have her engaged at the same time. Like I have a partner in all this and then her stylist, then following day, convinced her that having white bridesmaids dresses is what's cool and chic.
And so then I was like, fine, I'll do that. And that is what really just enraged me. And I'm like, no, absolutely not. She was, I pay my stylist to tell me what's cool.
I'm like, cool. Well, I already knew what was cool and this is something I was passionate about. And you said you would never do that. Like, fuck your stylist.
Yeah, give me a break. I'm like, my wedding is going to be five, six months, right, like right after yours. So like, you get to go off and do this and you didn't even care. You don't care.
You don't want it. And we got, it was like, Lala and I's like, first huge bite. Like did she have to take out her hoops? She got mean.
She was like, oh, are you going to cry? Oh, no. And I'm like, first of all, like who do you think you're talking to right now? Like, of course I'm going to cry.
I'm angry. But like, now sit down, sit your ass down, but she ended up letting me win. Okay, so she's not going to use that. No, because she knows.
Yeah, it's not cool. You and witnesses that saw her say, I would never do white bridesmaid stresses. She looked like a psycho. Also forget ex-boyfriends.
Like that's girl code. Don't go after my wedding colors. If she had, but it means I swear, if she had originally wanted that as well, I'll be like, well, we both have good taste. And it is what it is.
Right. Now you know that you and her stylists both have good taste. Yeah. All right.
So I've seen you go through such an array of issues with the people on this group. Kristin comes to mind. You guys had like one of the craziest things happen in your friendship, which is you finding out that she loved with your boyfriend. Yeah.
And you guys got over that. You have to get over this current feud, right? Yeah, I think we're both hoping that we do. I think we genuinely don't understand each other's side.
Like, there have been a couple moments where we've texted each other, and I've said to her, like, I really, you know, I'm gonna watch this season as a viewer to hopefully understand you. And then she'll respond and it'll be something like, this was my side. I'm like, okay, are we really here? Again, I'm like, you're saying the same thing.
We're both just not understanding each other. And so it's like, how do you put us in a room together to like be friends and get along if we just can't even get to the basic level of understanding why each of us are upset? I think there's still a lot of love that we have for each other, and I think we're both hoping, I'd like to think that, you know, things shift and change, and we get over stuff, but it's different than just like a betrayal, like with Jax. It was a betrayal.
She made mistakes as she learned from them. This feels like we're growing apart, and that happens in friendships. We, you know, we grow, and you want different things, and you shift, and your priorities change, and that's kind of what this feels like. But I love Kristen, so I feel like, I don't know, I don't know.
Okay, if you had to buy one book, would it be Tom and Ariana's cocktail book, or would it be Kristen's forthcoming book? I bought both of them. No, you're cheating. I bought both of them.
Okay, fine. You're a good friend. I'm just telling the truth. You ordered Kristen's, and I have Katie, and I have Ariana and Tom's at home, so.
All right, cool, cool. Tell me, because I think Bo is perfect. What is he like as a fiance? Is he helping with the wedding planning?
He wants to be way more involved than one would think. Like he gets irritated when he's not c-seed on wedding emails. And he's like, why am I not being c-seed? I'm like, I'm the bride.
That's mainly how it is. They're not thinking, let me make sure the Bo gets this. It's really hard planning a wedding for being on camera, because we have to get location agreements everywhere. A lot of, it's kind of impossible.
It's been very difficult. So, because you said that you guys wanted it in the winter, but you guys usually film in the summer. And Bravo said, okay, so meaning, we'll work around you, Sassy and Bo. So, amazing.
That's, yeah. We had to go travel to Rome with our producer. Our producer came with us to go looking for wedding venues. So it was an experience.
That's amazing. Will there be any resentment or pushback from your other Vanderpump Rules cast members over the working around, Sassy? That would make for good drama, honestly. I hope so.
Of course. Princess Stossey against when she winds, and they work around her wedding. Well, I asked for it. Brittany and Jax wanted a summer wedding.
Katie and Tom, they didn't ask for a later wedding. She and I wanted a summer wedding. I don't. And it's my fucking wedding.
So I should be able to have it whenever I want to have it. Boom. Are you so excited? I mean, birthday is one thing, but a wedding is like, I mean, it's the most.
You have no idea. So excited. I can't wait. I just can't wait because I love Italy so much.
And that was my favorite trip that Bo and I ever took together. And I just can't wait to show my friends, Italy, because I don't really think maybe one of them's been there. You know what I mean? To give them this full experience and allow them to make it what they want.
It's like, extend your trip, go travel, go do things. Just like, it'll only be a few days of wedding things. And then you can just have it. I just, I cannot wait to experience all of that with everyone.
Has your mom been really part of the planning process? I am. She tries. God bless her.
She tries. She texts. She calls. Can I help?
I'm like, no, no, no. But my wedding planners are handling it. And any decision that needs to be made, you raised a very decisive person. I don't need any help.
I just, too many cooks in the kitchen just stresses me out. Like, I just want my wedding planners to come to me. And Bo, ask us questions. Yes or no?
I'll give you answers. That's it. I don't need anyone's advice. Don't need anyone else's opinion.
No. No, no, no. Now that you are officially engaged, have any exes come out of the woodwork? No.
Well, I mean, jacks will never leave. So there's that. And I have the rest of them blocked. So I wouldn't know, honestly.
That's a good answer. Mysterious. I wonder if I unblocked them. Wouldn't it be cool if, like, when you unblocked, people you saw every text that they ever sent you during that blocked period of time?
I've honestly never blocked anyone. Is that not what happened? You haven't lived. You've never blocked anyone?
Not even a telemarketer? Oh, maybe. But I've never unblocked them. There's never been a person that you've dated that you're like, leave me the fuck alone.
I'm ready to move on. And you won't stop texting me. I mean, I had to block phone calls. I had to block email.
I had to block text. I blocked everything. No, because I secretly like the attention that it gives. I won't answer it, but it's still like, all right, I still think about me.
Oh my god. No, that stresses me out. It stresses me out, especially because I guess all my exes were the type to be like, hello, hello, exclamation, exclamation, question mark, question mark. Oh, I see how it is.
And then a new line is like, really? You're going to be like that really? I thought you were better than that. And then it's like, all of a sudden, my phone dings 17 times.
And I want to blow my brains out. So no, blocking is the best. Wait, wait, check, does it? The most recent one.
You obviously have some exes still present in your life. Not just jacks, but like, you know, Peter. Shout out to Peter. Like does Bo are his ex girlfriends as?
No. I've never met any of them. And I've said, I'm like, if they're not a part of your group of friends the way that mine are, then like, there's no reason that I should ever have to be around them or come into contact with them. So I haven't had to meet any of them.
It's kind of like how Bo hasn't had to meet like Patrick. Like he was, Patrick wasn't a part of our group of friends. So once it was done, it's like, I don't even know where he lives. Like if I would even run into him, I'm just never going to see him again.
That is, I guess, how Bo is with his. They're friendly, but like they're not in a group of friends. So don't torture me. That's what I say.
Yeah, I'm so not as laid back and cool as he is. So hypothetically, if a past relationship of his have been documented, like yours and Patrick's was, would you watch it? Yeah, I would totally torture myself. Yeah.
I would totally torture myself. Come on. Like, I don't have that much willpower. No way in hell.
I would be able to just, no. Yeah. I'd watch it. What has been more stressful buying your first home together or planning the wedding?
Buying the home. Yeah. Because again, we have wedding planners to help assist. The home process is just, we haven't lived together yet.
So we haven't had to combine our styles. And both of us have such a strong sense of style that it's like, OK, now this is causing arguments because it's like, how do we melt that together? I can't just throw up Sky Blue all into this house. You know what I mean?
That's not him. And then our whole house can't just be like, wood. It just can't, and I need some glam in there. And it's just mixing our styles together that's proven to be the most difficult.
Mm. But you probably win most of the art games. I do. Yeah.
There. OK, so Schwartz and Katie got Lisa Vanderpump to officiate. Right. Brittany and Jax got Lance Bass.
Are they up to the ante a little? Who are you and Bo going to get? We have our officiants. I haven't said that yet, though.
Is it someone we know? I think, is it a backstreet point? It's not a famous person. It's not a famous person.
But we have our officiant. OK. Probably no of this person. But I don't know.
I haven't said it yet. So I right now is not the time. Goddamnit. What was the best and what was the worst thing that you filmed this season?
The best thing was either Jax and Brittany's wedding or my proposal. Their wedding was really fun. It was very, very fun. And I love wedding episodes and I love being at weddings.
But I mean, it is my own proposal. So I'll say that. The worst thing I got in a series of meltdowny fights with Bo because I thought he didn't want to marry me and wasn't going to propose. Because he had convinced me this whole summer to try and trick me into thinking that he wasn't ready.
And so I was having mental and emotional breakdowns all the time. Everything that we've said to each other lies. So there were moments that I just lost it and was just an asshole because I just couldn't figure out my own feelings. Did you have any idea what was coming the day again?
No, because he'd convinced me it's not happening this year. So interesting because I was on an email or it was like, OK, if I was told production, they have a place. It's like I knew before you knew. My publicist Emily in this room knew.
I think I texted her and called her. I was like, just watch like I know. How did everyone get away with this? That's shocking to me.
That you knew. How many episodes of Vanderpump Rules have you seen this so far? I'm probably eight. OK.
We're not even close to the point where he's swirching me. There is a scene where I thought maybe I is actually going to propose because he put his mic pack in the front of his pants and took me out on date night. And our producers were like, dress up tonight. They never tell me dress up.
I already dress up. So I'm like, why the f*** can tell me to do that? That's weird. Something special I'm going on.
Then I was looking at everything that he was doing. I was like, he's not drinking really that much. Why is he being so sweet? Why is he telling me how much he loves me?
And why is there a ring box in his pants? And I thought for sure. Oh my god. Never mind.
He is proposing. And it wasn't. And I lost my sh**. Turns out we were just supposed to be having date night.
Literally. Like you broke down on him. I was like, it was just disastrous for a little while. Yeah.
I feel like producers and you guys must have such special relationships. I asked one of them to officiate. And everyone said no. But me and Bo were like, we feel very close to this person.
And I'm like, it was important that our officiant knows both of us equally. It's not just my friend or not just his friend. And we've just spent so much time with him that we asked for that. But that was a hard no.
Yeah. I was interviewing Kyle Cook. And he was saying how being on the show, it's interesting because he'll film something. But then you're talking to your producer after.
And he said a producer was like, you're kind of rough on Amanda. And I made him like, do you get that sort of feedback? I don't, really. But I also don't really call them to worry about it.
I think that's normally because I know a lot of my cast members will call our producers. I'm like, I'm freaking out about this. I'm freaking out about that. I think I sounded like an a** blah, blah, blah, blah.
I would get in my head if my producer was like, you were like a little bitchy. And I'm like, what? It was. So I don't really, no, I just do my thing.
Thank you so much for being on the podcast. Thank you, of course. All right, Real Housewives of Jersey? Yes.
OK. We've talked a lot about Frank Catania and Dolores Catania and how we ship them. We want them to get back together. It's just all I've ever wanted.
And then they kiss in front of everybody. And it's just so cute. I know. I just want like a central, lift-a-lift slow kiss.
Hit. Hit. Shut up. Just put it up.
Shut up. Frank and I have a connection and a bond. No tongue. No tongue.
It's a platonic kiss. Yeah. But like, just the way she got his face and everything. But then, of course, Joe, Gorga jumps in and kisses Frank on the lips, too.
So it's sort of like, and evens everything out. Joe Gorga is just so like, he's someone who just needs all the attention. Yeah. But I'm kind of OK with that.
Yeah, no, it's adorable. I like want to give him the attention. You can give him some attention. I mean, we called him out from backstage at our live show at BravoCon.
And he came out. And like, the crowd was cheering. And he came out. And he was like, do you want him to come on stage?
I was like, no, we don't have to make him do a whole song and dance for us. But he came out, gave a little wave. And the crowd went nuts. Were you impressed by Jackie's beer chugging skills?
I just liked Jennifer's comment of like, you can chug a beer, but you can't suck a dick. Right. So that leads us into the whole showdown at dinner, which I was impressed by Jackie. Chugging a beer is really hard.
Chugging a beer is easy. Like that's, you know, I've seen you do it before. You just crack it open and just like the way it works. With the pressure, it just shoots down your throat and you're good.
But chugging a beer requires a lot of concentration. Stamina. I mean, I was impressed. But yes, that leads us to Jennifer's comment and Margaret's reaction.
So I love Margaret. You know, I love her. I defend her all the time. She's just super nice.
I love when we get to see her. But I do think she tends to overreact to things, particularly when it comes to Jennifer, and particularly when it comes to Danielle. Right. And I think this is one of those moments, because I really don't think that Jennifer was trying to be a bitch.
I think. I feel like that's something that I would say. Yeah. And Jackie was the one who brought that information to the girls being like, oh, you give blow jobs.
And we've asked Jackie about it in the past. And she sort of like, winks it. Yeah, well, Jewish girls don't give head. Everyone knows that.
But just the way Margaret is just like, why would you say something like that that's so inappropriate? I just think it's the way Jennifer delivers it that makes Margaret think she's being a bitch. But really, she, yeah, I know what you're saying exactly. It's just the way that Jennifer is.
And I think she was just trying to be funny, and everyone's drinking and chugging. And it's like, just let it be fun for a little while. We have drama tomorrow. But then Jennifer, who we've talked about this too, she tends to really just like she's a runaway train.
And then she brings up Margaret's mothering. I don't know what type of mother you were, but I'm a very hands-on mother. You just insulted my mothering girls. You said you don't know what kind of mother I was.
I don't. That's just a fact. It's also an insanely sensitive topic for Margaret. Well, if parents are generalists for everyone, Margaret is estranged from her stepchildren, ex-stepchildren, you know what the deal is.
Right. It just seems like Jennifer's go-to when she wants to kind of get under somebody's skin. We saw it with Jackie and talking about the kids party that she threw. And then she knows that Margaret's going to get upset about that.
So if Jennifer could just control her temper a little bit, and Margaret could just not overreact to things, I think there'd be a little bit more fun on these little adventures that the guys go on together. Right. It was having a conversation yesterday. We're talking about how fighting style, arguing styles, and how for me, I will just go to the deepest thing.
I will pull a Jennifer. But my friend was saying, I never even, those thoughts never even come into my mind. And I just could not relate to that. That's interesting.
I feel like most people are somewhere in between that. The thoughts come into their mind, but you have the filter where you're like, well, I'm not going to go there, or at least I'm not going to go there yet. There has to be a build up in the argument. Because Danny and I have had to fight like that.
It starts over something small. You take the little digs, and then all of a sudden, this whole big wave tsunami, if you will, just crashing in. You're just like, oh, God, now I said it, and the floodgates are open. Yeah.
I remember that one thing you shared with me when you were vulnerable. I'm going to use it again. Exactly. Exactly.
And we all have that little housewife in us that has to do that. But yeah, I think Jennifer and Margaret are kind of similar in some ways, where they overreact to things, and then they just say it, and they don't mean it. Or it's like, with Margaret, sometimes it's a glass of wine, or a bottle of water. And with Jennifer, sometimes it's a fork, or a plate, or a smash glass.
You know, they have a lot more in common, I think, than they think. She goes big. Yeah. So the next day, they all split up to do activities.
Would you be on the parasailing activity, or would you be mini-golfing? Parasailing. Right. I mean, look, I think mini-golf is fun and all, but not over parasailing.
I've been parasailing, have you? I've never been parasailing. It's very relaxing, I will say. And I will be an exossean, so maybe.
You should. Just maybe. I'll go parasailing. It's just, once you're up there, you're just like, there's no way I could die.
Because even if I fell, I'm just going to fall into the water. I mean, the truth is, it would kill you. But it seems peaceful. And you wear a vest, right?
Yeah. It's the impact. But we'll kill you. No, you're not that high, are you?
If somebody didn't get just completely obliterated. I just didn't see it being Jennifer's husband. No. That was crazy.
I know. I mean, he was carried in by the other guys. Yeah. I don't think Jennifer, I mean, she says it in her interview, I have never seen Bill like that.
Whereas at least, I would like to think that I've seen Danny like that. He's seen me like that. Yeah. Maybe not being carried, but to a point where you're really drunk.
Aaron always is like, really drunk. It's happened in college and happened once around vacation. Both times, he just ends up completely naked, spread eagle passed out. I think we've seen that on your Instagram.
No, yeah. It's my favorite photo. Did you create a highlights on your Instagram of just like naked pictures of Aaron? I think most of us would appreciate it.
I should. OK, well, we got to get to the big reveal at the end of this episode. But then Steven told me I should go pull her hair. Steven, the owner of the boutique?
When Steven said do it, I hesitated. And then I looked at Theresa and she said, yeah, do it. There's something Theresa told you to pull her hair. Yes.
What the fuck? I mean, I was shocked. Shocked. Yeah, my jaw dropped.
I just didn't see that coming. It's tricky here because, and this is a point that Danny has brought up a lot when we've watched Jersey together, not that he's a Danielle apologist and nor am I. But I think Danielle is often portrayed as such a villain that I think the other women almost force her into playing the part because like who else is it going to be? And knowing this additional layer of information is a little bit shocking to me that Theresa would encourage it and that Danielle would still act on it.