EPISODE · Sep 16, 2025 · 52 MIN
TFS#238 - Dr. Nadine Macaluso on How To Spot Pathological People, Wolf of Wall Street, Parenting
from THE FLIP SIDE with Andy Mai · host Andy Mai
Dr. Nadine Macaluso is a licensed marriage and family therapist, trauma expert, and author. Once married to Jordan Belfort, the "Wolf of Wall Street," she now uses her personal experiences and professional expertise to help others heal from trauma, build healthier relationships, and thrive. She is also the founder of the Surthriver™ community, where she empowers women to transform their pain into purpose.Connect with Dr. Nadine!https://www.instagram.com/therealdrnadinehttps://www.tiktok.com/@drnaelmftVisit Her Website To Learn More!drnae.comCHAPTERS:0:00 – Introduction1:45 – Meet Nadine Macaluso2:50 – Nadine talks about the relationship between her children and Jordan Belfort3:24 – Has Jordan changed over the years from being a pathological husband?4:02 – How Nadine raised her kids despite Jordan’s traits5:02 – Nadine talks about her relationship with her father5:57 – Andy reflects on being raised by a single mom7:26 – Nadine’s thoughts on Andrew Tate’s view of “potent time with kids”8:36 – Should Andy avoid people with childhood trauma?9:49 – How Nadine was “used” in her past relationship with a pathological husband11:04 – Nadine shares when she decided to become a therapist12:02 – Nadine shares how therapy helped her survive chaos13:22 – Nadine talks about applying psychology to raising her children14:25 – Should parents cuddle babies every 3 hours or let them cry it out?15:28 – Nadine talks about the effects of using iPads with kids17:09 – Why families struggle to communicate feelings19:08 – Andy reflects on his experience with his dad only calling when he needed money21:01 – Are men becoming too emotional today?21:56 – Should men share financial struggles with their partners?23:10 – Did Andy’s single mom influence his siblings’ love lives?24:59 – Nadine shares how she met her husband after Jordan25:49 – Nadine talks about life inside a marriage26:59 – Nadine shares advice for finding a best-friend partner in life27:34 – Nadine shares the things she is giving the most of and needs the most in her life28:55 – How Nadine balances inbound requests vs. reaching out29:38 – Is Nadine introverted or extroverted?30:40 – Nadine talks about independence and individuality in relationships31:27 – Nadine talks about how she built her personal brand32:36 – Did Nadine finish her studies before or after the movie?33:26 – Meeting Margot Robbie before filming The Wolf of Wall Street33:43 – How actors play pathological characters in The Wolf of Wall Street34:09 – Nadine talks about the difference between narcissistic and pathological people35:43 – Nadine shares how to spot a pathological person39:11 – How Nadine’s kids handled the Belfort name and the movie40:13 – How Nadine built a safe space for her kids40:55 – Nadine shares how to have proper communication about drugs with children42:19 – Did Nadine’s kids openly share about their relationships?42:52 – Nadine shares how her kids always get along with each other44:01 – Nadine talks about how she built her $30/month Surthriver community for women46:16 – Does Nadine ever ask Jordan for business advice?46:41 – Who the Surthriver Community is for and how to join47:33 – Nadine talks about the meaning of a trauma bond48:06 – What are codependent relationships?48:59 – Nadine’s recent life discoveries50:59 – Nadine’s goals and focus for the next 6 months51:30 – Connect with Nadine52:11 – Outro
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