The #1 Reason Church Leaders Burn Out (And How to Fix It)

In this episode of Conversations, we’re diving into a truth that many leaders miss: while the church isn’t a startup, it still demands structure, systems, and strategy. Drawing from over a decade of ministry leadership and business experience, I unpack why the Holy Spirit isn’t opposed to order—and how building healthy, sustainable churches requires more than fire and passion. You’ll learn: Why spiritual momentum dies without structure The difference between relying on superstars vs. servant teams How systems protect your people and sustain your mission What clarity and simplicity do for discipleship And how to build momentum that doesn’t burn out your team Connect with me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshnandrew TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@joshnandrew Website: https://joshandrew.org/ If you’ve ever felt torn between “being led by the Spirit” and “leading with strategy,” this one’s for you. Let’s build churches that last.