Ladies and gentlemen, here we are four years in a row the end of year Millie awards where we get together and we recap the year we make up a bunch of categories We make up a bunch of answers and we reflect on how the years gone with our awards ceremony. So Sam. Are you ready? More often it feels like a little suit of armor.
Yeah, I already got a compliment this morning inside the house I think maybe I should start dressing well. Maybe that's gonna be my change of the year We'll see it's December 26th. You got a compliment this year probably the only compliment you got all year Yeah, the only looks compliment for sure men don't get compliments. So you should wear jackets for all right What do we want to start all right?
We're gonna start category. We have 11 11 awards to give out We're gonna start with number one best investment of the year and these are personal by the way These are our personal best investments worse investment. That's where they so Sam. What was your best investment?
What do you think I'm gonna say? The S&P 500 the S&P 500 up 28% but that was boring I don't want to just say that the best investment I have we had this year I remember Jason Cohen we had on the pod Jason Cohen started what's it called? Anyway, he made a comment I think after the pot where he talked about tipping and I was like I like to tip You know, I was like I just hang out five so he goes fives You should be handing out 20s like he goes I tip like crazy and I started doing that after the pod And so I carry around about a thousand dollars of 20s at any given point And I am just dishing that shit out like crazy and you want to know something? It's maybe so happy it's so that's been a great investment But I wonder bring that up because my investment strategies are pretty boring But man, I'll tell you what I'll go to a restaurant and it'll be like $60 because we don't drink and like it's like cheap We're cheap dates.
I'll easily leave a hundred dollars And then you stick around to wait for the reaction to you like did you do you see that? I'm trying under there listen. I thought it was tacky to do that but I say screw them. I'm doing something nice I want to I want like a compliment like it makes me feel good.
I'm doing this for selfish reasons It makes me feel good. So I don't mind it as long as I'm not filming it. It's okay. That's what I think Do you guys share these or is that all yours right there?
No, but seriously tipping has made me happier investment It's hard for me to say best investment because I am so boring although I do have one angel investment and figure that's gonna pay a lot of money So far on paper. Okay, so Sam's favorite nice here is vanilla. All right. No, what do you want me to say?
I'm gonna make something up all right. I will make up for your boring answer with I have two answers I'll give you the first one. Okay, so Sam best investment when I think of the perfect investment, right? What's my type my type would be you know some people like blondes people like brunettes Here's my type is a passive investment that is tax advantage that beats market returns That is uncorrelated to my address my portfolio tack crypto has low downside and I'm betting on a beast of an operator who has an unfair Advantage it sounds like you're trying to sell me a time share Close real estate.
You got it So I for the first time made some serious investment invested a few million dollars into real estate this year and it was Great for a long time. I thought I should probably be doing real estate I should probably take this magic internet while you put it in real estate So that I have kind of both I have real world tangible assets I pay cash flow and I have this like kind of crazy upside tech stuff And I never could figure out the way to do it I was like do I buy my own and manage it that seems like a pain Do I use one of these kind of like funds or whatever but they're all just fee monsters and The answer was sitting in my in my own wheelhouse I my brother-in-law is amazing real estate operator the guy's built like a billion dollar real estate portfolio for himself and so I just started giving him money and It's been amazing. I don't lift a finger and I'm getting like you know 30 40% returns with all the taxes and it's so that was my best investment And I'll be doubling down there, but I have a bonus answer for you The bonus answer is I made a couple of stock trades I know you don't approve not supposed to buy individual stocks But I did but I did it in a very specific way that I think you might dig which was I just I've been trading against the all-in podcast for like two years Now are you kidding me and it has been phenomenal Example and also like is this like casino gambling money or is this like like in my opinion anything above a hundred dollars is like Real bets then I just view them as as safe like they're not like they're not like obscure Like Amazon or something so what will happen is all in podcast love listening to it very entertaining guys very smart guys I just don't think they're right a lot and they're not right in one specific one specific leak Which is that they have like an agenda which is often you know either talking their own their own book or it's anti-woke anti-left anti big tech So like you know Calcanis goes out it says the most likely case is Bitcoin zero it tweets this out and on the all-in podcast They're talking about crypto and all the problems with it. I guess what I decided by Bitcoin that day And then the Google releases its new AI model and it has this problem where you say show me pictures Washington and they show you a black guy Yeah, and they're like Google show woke it's going down the drain well You're you're today on Google's 41% Yeah, exactly so easiest try easiest money to make was just to trade against the only podcast So here's an example Chem off tweets out the growing short case against Facebook and he says the regulation is a problem taxes A problem antitrust is a problem all the stuff.
I've been on Facebook I'm up 5x so I made 500% on that trade And so basically they went anti Bitcoin for a period of time and they swung back they went anti meta and they made this case why Zuck was being an idiot He was investing way too much CapEx into AR and VR more money that had ever been invested in the development of the iPhone It all sounds very very smart, but my little simpleton brain went back to like nine. I think that's exactly man I know I spent a shit like I have a e-commerce business every dollar I can spend on the Facebook ad engine I spend yeah, you know to take more money. Yeah. Oh iOS 14 is it was a problem No, no, I still spend more than I spent before that and there's no better place to spend a dollar in advertising than on Facebook The closed second was Google right so when they went anti Google for being woke I bought Google when they went anti Facebook I went I bought Facebook anti Bitcoin I bought Bitcoin and it's just been very very profitable for me to do this that's amazing That's really funny.
I think it's like the inverse Kramer or inverse Galloway indexes where they just they just literally whatever this popular Popular figurehead says they just bet the opposite I've basically been doing that for about two and a half years against the all-in podcast only now was I willing to say it dude By the way, I you get this guy on the pot who become a great friend my name Val him and I he was the main guy I was a very small investor. We bought a building in Brooklyn. I killed it on that I think I had a 28 percent annual like return and not including the tax stuff But my worst investment this year. Do you remember how I said I was remember how I bought a ranch?
Right, I sold it this year. So stupid Maybe I lost money because I could have used that money to invest in something that made a lot more But I basically like kind of broke even so it wasn't that huge of loss But it was so stressful and my learning is that I had this issue where I sold a company I made money and I thought I was on top of the world and I thought I could buy I Fully bought three different pieces of real estate intending to like turn into projects not one of them was great I'm mad one was break even and I that's been my biggest failure is like thinking like she abris it thinking that I'm amazing and also Buying real estate that you have to operate. It's like starting a small business. It's a work ten hours a week on it's hard Yeah, my rule is if it's active it has to generate more than 50 percent the bar is way different if it's passive It could be seven percent is fine, but if it's active It's got to be more than 50 percent active investment and so that's why I gave you the traits I said passive and it's beat some market like I had this list if I could ever find an investor that does that and finally found on I thought it would be cool to like you know That's like every you know like that's like one of the five things that men love is like they don't say they want to own a lot of land And I did it and I hated it like dude I was like I would drive up to I had a Tesla at the time I would be in the country and I would have these like workers come to like decide to put in a bid to pay the driveway I would get a $70,000 quote and a $3,000 quote like that was the delta and it was all because of the way I looked and they're like this guy doesn't shit, you know, like it was crazy I got taken advantage so many times it sucked so I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon and for that reason I'm at Alright, what about worst investment that was my worst investment was any fully owned real estate any real estate that I was a investor in I loved it anything that I fully owned and wanted to like make it my thing because of pride I failed miserably Alright, my worst investment, this was a little bit hard I did well this year But I would say if I had to stretch back a couple of years and say what was the first worst over the last couple of years And I would say I made a general rookie mistake Which was I would buy on the upswing and I would sell during the panic times I mean I would I would try to hedge bets to try to time market so when covid happened I thought oh my god the whole economy is gonna shut down and I was right for a month And then right after that stocks exploded and I was sitting on the sidelines where the stocks that I already owned Started soaring and I had to buy back in a high prices crypto crashed with FTX and other things and when morale was at its lowest my conviction Was as low as I behaved I behaved like a pleb I'm not I'm not proud to say it I'm ashamed to say it I behave like a pleb when things were bad my conviction went low when things were good my conviction went high This is the opposite way to make money I kind of knew this but in the moment it was a lot harder than I expected to actually master my own psychology as an investor What is the word pleb?
Are you thinking that means pleb? I say pleb really? Which one of us is wrong? I don't know which one though.
I don't have enough conviction, but you might have another L there Exactly Yeah, it sucks to be doing things that you know you would advise people not to do in the moment in a moment By the way, this is why information is not power knowledge is not power so when COVID happened I think it was February in San Francisco and you know We were all in our apartment sticking the world was literally going to end and I remember I is the only time I've ever done this The market dropped I think 30% literally the date was its lowest. I sold 100% of everything I owned I thought bodies are gonna pile up in New York I thought the world's ending and I had friends who did the opposite of me and our returns were drastically different That was the lesson that like that moment had to teach me do not do this You know when Warren Buffett he says all these smart phrases and they sound cool and you're like yeah, man I'm in when the tide goes low. I could see everyone swimming naked. I mean that's all you gotta do I'll be a billionaire, but then when it actually happens, it's hard.
It's scary. It's emotional and I fell victim to that And it sounds like you did to at least once 100% also during that time I was picking I remember between two stocks I was like okay I think the future is some version of AI but also potentially VR and AR and I plowed a bunch of money into unity instead of Nvidia I was looking at the two and I said you know you're in video You should just bet about but instead I picked unity and unity as nothing in the video became the most valuable company in the world So you know sometimes you do that too. That's also a way to lose what did unity become I've lost like 60% of my best one on unity is it's not nowhere is there like a threshold of like for your what's your lowest trade dollar Mount is it like $1,000 or always above a hundred thousand more like a hundred thousand got it so I don't have like an actual minimum But I wouldn't I'd be going to put it out $1,000. It's not really like that exciting or wait It's kind of a waste time, right?
It depends how you look at it like for example I think stock picking is stupid But I think that you're like well I spend like five grand over the couple months just going to casino like this could be an exciting thing It's like I remember for that when the AMC shit was going crazy I thought be fun if I was like I'll do the thing and I'll put like only a grand and just like just a play the game And maybe I'll talk about it on here and it was dumb. It was stupid. Yeah I'm done that with like dogecoin and stuff like that, but yeah, that's that's the true gambling budget Alright, let's do the next one. I guess Elle you took personally this year Dude, so my daughter was born 15 months ago and I gave myself four months to like just be kind of lazy and not be on top of like my time Management and that like you know like on Thanksgiving you're like yes tonight before like the cookies are being made I could just it's kind of the same day as Thanksgiving It's okay, but then like Friday happens to do like well They're leftovers.
I gotta eat them and then my Sunday. You're still kind of picking out a little bit I basically did that for like six months where I was like pretty horrible with my time And I wasted so much time this year and it really bothered me and so this year I've made some changes that I'll talk about when we get to that category of like changes for making next year But I wasted so much time on my daughter was born and it wasn't and this isn't like people listening to be like well You should have downtime to hang out with her. It's like yeah, I did that I was totally present but six months on a line when she's at her nanny and I'm still kind of like moving slow and like You know what I mean? It was kind of what do you mean by wasting time?
What are we talking about here? I'll give you an example So I would shift my schedule like my workout schedule so I could be with her in the morning But and that actually meant that she actually went and got a bed until seven then Andy would come at nine And so between seven and nine I would hang out at home and then work out from you know nine to ten thirty Which is like a pretty lazy morning for me versus working out what I used to do at seven thirty And so the nanny now comes at eight and I like dude I should have just switched to like I can start my day a little bit earlier But I didn't so I was still going to the gym later and just lounging around the house for hours things like that But like there was five things where it's like cumulated was like two four hours five hours a day. We just wasted It sounds like a bit harder to self but okay. I'll accept your L Each man's L is his own to carry.
It's a burden he carries you didn't have that were you wasted time when you had your kid? Like it's okay. I think that like I think you just described as your unproductive day was sort of my productive day So I don't know what you're talking about like I wait so you you took care of your kid and worked out in the morning That sounds great sounds like a great morning. I don't know what you're talking about It was just like I just I didn't get after it at all and I found myself to be like you and also when you have a kid I experienced this where I'm like oh nothing else matters But you should still kind of pretend it does so you could like kind of be productive and I kind of like act like nothing else mattered all right, I The biggest ally took there were so many to choose from to be honest from Forgetting our anniversary and then trying to recover and guessing the date wrong that was not great And by the way, she didn't even care which is like oh damn I've lowered expectations to that to that level Okay, got you so that was a quick L I took the whole I don't know if you guys can you solve this for me for our should anniversaries be the first time you dated or when you got married And once you get married it switches to the marriage anniversaries Official stance I have been trying to say that it should be dating the whole time because you know what I mean like sometimes a date for five years You could do nothing for the marriage Fuck that it's to be when you start when you're going to be your first date.
That's what the anniversary should be in my opinion the first time we Kissed with tongue that's it all right, so So then another ally took was I was a collateral damage to this whole I don't know if you know about the elf in the shelf fucking Insanity like a lot of it's so crazy and I went to like a window thing and they were like what I just lost her to Elph on the shelf like this has been crazy She's up every night for four hours preparing this elaborate, you know elf You know set up and then she sleeps she has to sleep during the day and I don't know what's happening I don't know what who tricked women in America into doing this but is It's like doing 75 hard except for you wake up at two in the morning to do it And you do it for 30 days. What is it? So it's like a doll that stares on the shelves and like is omnipresent and watches your children so you can scare them into not doing bad stuff So okay So I think the original theory was like you get a elf comes to your house and it sits on a shelf and in the morning It moves and you're like oh my god, it moved. What's up with that?
But women on the internet have taken this to a whole new level It doesn't just move it creates schemes and plots and tricks and treats like you know My kids wake up they come downstairs the entire living room has been turned into the floor is lava There's fire on the ground everywhere the tree is covered it looks like a volcano now The elves are hanging from the chandelier doing crazy stuff or they take all of the underwear that was in all of the drawers of all of the House and they put it all over the roof of the house and you gotta go outside I'd be like oh my god, what do they do so every night they create a whole Are we to get our toilet replaced because they turn our toilet into a cereal bowl and then somebody flushed and now we just Fruit Loops just clogged the toilet Your shit. Yeah, you just do crazy stuff every every that you come up with like a giant episode of punked by Ashton But you're a huge prank occurs and that you come up with every night you buy Thousands of dollars of materials because the elves have their own size stuff Do you have somebody had a knowing rodent in their home causing havoc? They wouldn't put it on the shelf and say hi to it They would kill it Exactly, so if you don't know about this you're just like what are you talking about this is weird strange behavior But if you're in it there's guys out there right now that are sort of like PTSD shakes are coming over their body because they've also been experiencing this And I don't know if I'm in the minority. I don't know if I'm in the slight minority of the majority I don't know how many people do this.
I just know that my wife and her friends They do this and she's in these Facebook groups with hundreds of thousands of women and every morning they post elaborate things that they set up And then that spurs all of them till go even crazier with it So I'm gonna say that elf on the shelf was one of mine Do you want to do a close moment? All right, you give me yours this year I had to go to LA for a Hampton thing where I had interviewed Rob Deardit in front of a bunch of people very randomly Someone was like hey, I'm going to back home to LA. I'm in Austin right now. I'm going tonight someone mentioned that in the morning You're going to LA.
I'm with my wealthy famous friend I'm not gonna say they actually have a jet and they're going to LA tonight and I got this text and I had committed to Putting my baby to sleep. This was like in the first handful of months And I was like I'm gonna be here every night and I was like dude I don't want to sound like a douche and I want you know That was this is I'm so grateful you offered me But I can't go because you want to leave at six and I said I'm gonna be your 30 and he was like oh We'll go at eight thirty and I was like awesome. I was like shit again I don't want to be dick, but my friend Neville is coming with me tomorrow morning Which he was and I was like I can never bail on him and he's like great We have room for him and it totally accommodated me It's so my best friend level and I flew to LA on this very wealthy famous person's private jet And I got to spend like three hours like learning from this guy It was so fun and so awesome and that was like one of my not just because we are flying private It was just awesome that like I got to do this adventure with my friend That was that was the best moment I had all year But if you flew southwest would it have been the coolest moment of the year on the way back? Because we had to change our flights we flew southwest next to the toilet It was a very ging and yang situation.
It was still fantastic That one didn't win the award though. That one didn't win the award but it was fun It's like you know, you know that meme where there's like a guy in the hoodie says like Nobody here knows but I invested in Bitcoin in 2012 But that's like I like in line. It's otherwise like you know like they should ask me So different Love that one. Okay, I'll do a quick one.
I kind of struggled with this one I guess I'll give you a quick one. So for Thanksgiving this year, we were gonna host it I decided to do a full family vacation. So kind of like, you know, how do I okay? If we've done well, we've had some success How do I make sure that that like, you know makes everybody have a great time and that I care about my little economy?
And so I rented out this this really cool house in Tahoe I brought my whole family up to Tahoe hired a personal chef who would cook us the Thanksgiving meal live And I just remember there was one morning where I woke up and it was just the best morning Like I took my dog out in the snow my dog was like mind blown at what snow is So I took my dog for a walk early in the morning was crisp I didn't have my phone even though where my phone was came inside my kids were all playing with their cousins and that was so cool to see Somebody was you know making breakfast in the other room and I could smell it me and my brother-in-law We were playing we played a game of like horse on the little nerf hoop that was in the house And I just had the best morning and I just remember being like this this was bliss Like if I just peeked yeah, it took all my boxes right like whole family living under one roof kids are having a blast I'm playing a silly game on a nerf hoop. There's not worry in the world. You know, we're not busy We're not rushing it. It's just a wonderful feeling so I'm gonna give my Tahoe morning my coolest moment of the year The takeaway by the way should I've done that for two years now.
I did the first time I think last year I when I was doing best moments I was like it was either what I just said or this thing taking family and just paying for it And it sounds like a ridiculous and it's very expensive and it's very challenging for a lot of people But if you can pull it off it is almost always one of the best moments it feels if in the second takeaways is the coolest moments I think we've had for a lot of these things. It's always doing things that benefit other people somehow Do you know what I mean? Like accommodating other people into our lives is the it's the best feeling it's usually not like some huge like traditional career Accomplishment it's always like it's always doing something cool for other people. So I agree that's a good one that you have all yours was Somebody like you private the best I know the best part was doing it with my friend Yeah, we had just like shared experience together.
That was that was great. All right I've got a quick one for life hack do you want to know my biggest life like life hack that I started doing it and this is so basic People but on Thursday. I do it on Thursday now on Friday. I print out I'll show I print out everything that I have to do for the next week and up top is my Q1 focus and goals And that's like you know tell my wife how much I appreciate her every day But also like traditional business goals and also fitness goals And then I have what I did last week and any reflections on it And then I have a category that says how my assistant can help me and my assistant every morning prints this off at my house And so it's ready for me a Monday morning and I carry this piece of paper with me around everywhere like during the work day And that's what I use to make sure I'm getting shit done I don't use notion I don't use any of that crap and just having this printed out has been so much more helpful for me than any type of Digital complicated shit totally I have one over here on the ground I guess I bought these if you go buy like sketch pads like you know artists or architects have it's really high quality paper Large pads with nice pens such easy when to go to go analog instead of digital with that stuff By the way, I think you should level it up And you need like a seal of sort of some sort of coat of arms for your family if you would like that and like either stamp wax Seal I feel like if you just made it more prestigious honestly, it would be kind of amusing and it would be fun and I I think everything I could just give it a little stamp and be like hell yeah, that's me That's how I roll and like this is us I completely official so I want you to do that That's a great idea.
I actually completely agree. What's yours? Okay life hack for me? The highs and lows channel.
Have I told you about this my highs and lows channel is that for work? Yeah, kind of I mean it's for everything but I have a slack channel for every company I have a slack channel called highs and lows and in it anytime there's a high high in the moment of that business or a low low so you know For example on Christmas Eve the Mexican government decided to ban all imports into Mexico of textiles Which effectively shut down my entire warehouse on Christmas Eve and we can no longer like Because I'm Mexico. Yeah, it's like you're like ah here. We are Business can now not our e-com business has no inventory for the foreseeable future and I've got millions of dollars of inventory sitting in a warehouse there that now is You know blockaded.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you President of Mexico for this Christmas present and so in the moment where I'm feeling a low something bad happen a lawsuit or a big Client gets lost or someone key quits or whatever it is right?
I go into that channel and I just type what happened But the beautiful thing is instead of addressing the current problem or basing in the glory of the current high What when I go to the channel? I just see the last one that I had because it's right there scrolled up And I just see oh man. I had a huge low then that feels like nothing now Right or I had a huge high before that also feels like nothing now and it is this stoic trick of the brain to basically Just write down. I'm having a high or I'm having a low right now But in the place where I'm right again I see my last higher low and the one before that and the one before that and it just like thermoregulates my brain My brain says okay, it's not as bad as it seems nor is it because it's a thing that humbles me or it keeps my morale Hide whatever I need in that moment and it's so effective just to have this little simple channel Have you ever heard of a negative visualization?
Yeah, like sort of imagining what the worst that can happen is yeah It's a tool that I think it was popular is by the stoic the famous stoics But basically you sit down for about five minutes and you've been sort of meditating you just imagine the worst things on earth Earth or true your kid is dying of cancer your wife has already died your broke like your you know hurt whatever and then if you Actually visualize that for like five or you know so minutes it kind of almost feels weird It's really strange and then you wake up and you open your eyes you go. Oh sick none of that's true How grateful I feel right now and it's like a pretty useful tool and what you're describing is very similar to that yeah Except for this is these were real moments that I remember and like I have evidence of versus trying to do this exercise I mean this is I've saved in people thousands of dollars in therapy If you just create a little highs and lows channel you'll therapy yourself because you'll go in and it'll you'll remember I've been high before I've been low before and either way I walk out It's it's that rich your killing poem I treat triumph and disaster I treat those two imposters the same and this is the fastest most effective way to do it dude that reminds you know One of my I think Conor McGregor has taken a fall from grace I really don't like him anymore But he has a lot of like amazing things that he says that I buy into and he's got this one thing Do you remember have you're seeing what he says about having the same attitude in victory or defeat? Yeah, exactly what does he say? Do you know the exact line?
He basically says I forgot what it was It was like you know humble in victory and something you know something in defeat which is by the way not what he does it all anymore But yeah, that was his original original piece. I'm gonna Yeah, like I think last time he lost he the octagon he was telling the Victory humble in defeat and actually last time he lost he was Sound of me that he like she was cheating on him your wife is in my DMS I Really want to create a compilation to just show it to him and go you'll love this guy So this is McGregor back when we both loved him. I am cocky in prediction I'm confident in preparation, but I'm always humble in victory or defeat. It's the best right there you go, right?
So we did life act Let's do now number eight only four left number eight Billy of the year who is our Billy of the year? We do this segment called Billy of the week where we profile just a big baller shock collar somebody who is either a billionaire Or just making big moves. Who do you think was making the biggest of the big moves this year? So my pick is not sexy about make a case Do you know I don't know if it's ever happening but in high school sophomore year and everybody has their place in the social hierarchy You know with the nerds are you know who the jocks are you know with the theater kids are you know Who's the glue guys I can fit in with everybody and then you all leave for the summer But then there's always that one kid who leaves for the summer and they get that little second puberty bump they get that extra You know four inches of height They start growing a little facial hair They start working out all summer because their cousin came into town and taught him how to work out You know they picked up a hobby They learned the guitar or they start you know doing MMA or something like that And then and they start dressing differently and if you're rumors that they hooked up like a college girl during the summer They had a confling and they come back and they just told you guys and there's like a conversation like is great cool now Yeah, and undeniably Greg is cool mark sucker were pulled a Greg this year So here's the case for us.
His stock is up five hundred percent in the last 24 months He's gained a hundred billion dollars of net worth He is now the third richest man in the world but more than that He's not just one of the rich guys right because that that criteria would apply to Elon and try to Jeff Bezos Bill Gates other guys were super rich he found a hobby that he loves and it got him into tremendous shape Zuck started doing MMA Jiu Jitsu striking and now Zuck is fit. He's ripped He's got a hobby that he loves that takes his mind off work He is playing the world's most competitive game which is the AI game I don't know how much you follow this but Zuck had a judo flip basically He had a differentiated way to win you know open AI was in front and Google had deep mind and Zuck came out and open sourced all of their Their models and created an open source competitor to basically compete in this market and he's doing extremely well there He went from a robot to a cool guy He's like dresses like a cool guy now and has like a cool guy haircut So he did like a personal style upgrade. He you know he's not like you know Elon's on his you know Third or fourth failed marriage, you know 11 kids and three different women's in college Zuck's got his college sweetheart got his daughters You know appears to be a really great dad by all counts and I just respect that I just respect that he's had this all-around game All right, he's just had this really strong four game where he just covered all the bases of what I consider to be a really good Life he's doing what he loves on and off the court and you know as is lame to say Mark Zuckerberg But I gotta say Mark Zuckerberg he uh, have you like you you don't know about running? But he ran a 5k time.
He ran a 5k recently and he ran it in 19 minutes. That's really fit He's like really fit. Did you see that post where he talked about his Murph? His Murph time.
Yeah, the Murph he did it insane Murph dude He's really sad like he's not like one of these like you know like Vince McMahon's like 80 years old's like weirdly like old Jack Or like you know Joe Rogan has this to where they was like really weird body cuz they're taking like TRT like crazy It's like it's like these weird ozempic bodies or TRT bodies. No, he's just like worked out a lot and it good Yeah, he like eats an apple and chicken like he looks great. You know what I mean? He looks great.
Yeah, that's a great one and he's I really like his wife She's turned into like this kind of uh, I don't know like salt leader Michelle Obama E like you know like she's kind of hip and cool and I care about her opinion a lot like she's kind of like a little bit of a I don't even know this because I love about her is that she's not out there trying to get limelight She's doing anything that's public right? She's like a foundation But I've seen her talk at Conferences and then I also just been going to UFC and they'll show her in the background At and then one of the fighters is like she'll be like hey that choke was cool And he'll be like do you want to learn it? And she'll be like yeah, and so she like puts a guy in a choke like she just kind of like it And she doesn't see you know how like people love Princess Diak She was like you know over to the people it's just kind of that vibe a little bit and I appreciate that I have not seen that But I have seen like they there was like an interview recently where somebody was like following him around for the day And she was there and she was just so down to earth and cool and was like making fun of him But you know like you know when couples are together and it's like you could tell that they have fun together But you can also tell they don't hate each other like you can make fun of somebody without being really bitter only I just thought like the vibe I got a little clip what the vibe I got was great So mine was do you remember meetup.com? Sounders Scott is it high for men the half or half or So the short of it is the story is basically this guy named Scott He started a digital ad company that he sold for like $15 million enough to get like very wealthy as a 20 year old He leaves tech and he goes and he joins McDonald's And he works at McDonald's as you know a cashier or something like that and people like actually noticed him and someone wrote I think that's probably wrote an article like what the hell you doing He's like dude, I've been around ad executives for the last 10 years or you know five years I've been around tech people I needed to get out of my bubble and so I just went and worked at McDonald's And I learned it's really hard work And I'm so thankful that I am where I am and I'm gonna go back to that You didn't just do it for like a day.
Oh, this wasn't like a field trip Like he actually worked there for like months and months Yeah, and he worked there and he left and he started meetup.com which I think eventually was worth hundreds of millions of dollars sold it And as of late if you go to his LinkedIn he has not made an ordeal out of this This is all other people like us talking about it making an ordeal out of it But now he's an Amazon warehouse worker and he's working in the Amazon warehouse And he kind of is doing the exact same thing and I think that's so baller that he's doing that and so baller that he is not doing it for PR It's like some soul searching thing and I think it's fantastic. I think it's pretty badass So he was kind of he's not actually a billionaire, but he's quite wealthy Simply mindset. He's got that he's got the energy life on your own terms. He is doing that.
Love it. Okay. That's a good one That's a good poll. All right.
What's next now? This one is frame-breaking person. We should explain this one So both you and I love one specific thing that I don't even think other people have a word for we call it frame-breaking Somebody who breaks your frame Scott is a great example of this It's somebody who lives their life for accent away that sort of defies your expectation breaks your frame on what's either normal what's acceptable What's possible? What's cool?
It's somebody who just lives differently in a way that just shatters your your your worldview norm And I wanted to make a category for this because this is one of my favorite things when I meet somebody who's like this So frame-breaking person who did you have this year? I'll say frame-breaking is this guy Brian Johnson So Brian Johnson is the guy who wants to live forever guy and he's frame-breaking not because he wants to live forever Shit, which is definitely cool But I hung out with him and so for those who don't know Brian Johnson is a guy who started a company that kind of turned into Venmo and a bunch of other things he sold it for $500 million and now he's spending a lot of money to try to live forever You see him on Instagram all the time. He said something to me I was like why are you doing this? You know, we were just talking about stuff and he goes, you know I read this book on Magellan and Magellan was a sailor and the exporter in the 1500s or 1400s And he basically sailed around the globe and he proved all this amazing stuff And I just thought it was so amazing and I was starting and I made a list of like the top 10 top 15 people to ever live and what their Contributions were you know, the Wright brothers with flight the person who invented electricity or discovered electricity like people like that And he's like none of them were like rich like it Like money didn't impact people it didn't impact the world as much and I just thought that if I could solve like a really Hard problem and contribute to the world I thought that that would be a life worth living And I just decided that I'm gonna try and do everything in my day to be renowned in the year 2500 he's like in 2500 I hope to create like and contribute to society in such a way that in 2500 they talk about me and I thought that was absolutely bananas I don't know if I want to do that but I thought it was so cool that he was like I don't care about money because money and I was like he's like that He's like who was the richest person 500 years ago.
I was like, I don't know he's like yeah That's my point But you've heard of Magellan and so I thought it was such a frame-breaking moment for me to like hear his reasoning as to why he's trying to do Which is prolonged death or solve for death. He's like if I solve that would you say that well? I'll be remembered. It's like yeah, you will.
He's like that's how I want to spend my day. That's an amazing answer I love that he did that just all the things you just said making a list of the 15 most most impactful or influential people ever What a list I think I want to go do that just even see what that was he was like It was like it was like orville it was the right brothers. It was the Gutenberg press It was Magellan like there was like ten of them He was like these change the world forever and he's like you know how many of them are like rich people none They're just like inventors or something like that. I thought you're gonna say orville red and bocker and I was like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna complain if that's the he's on the list.
Okay, so my answer for frame-breaking person is Nick Gray and It's my true answer. This is my true answer. I'm gonna speak my truth. Is it not it's not Elon Musk?
It's somebody I met I hung out with I had a flight so I went and spoke at this event and they they were like hey We'll fly you private and I was like cool and Nick was going to the same place as I was he's like hey Can I come with you? I was like yeah, no problem. That'd be great. It's all Nick was the same in that situation Yeah, exactly so I was like one-on-one with him for like five hours or something Oh, you know, which is that's a long time.
It's a long conversation That's like more time than I spent talking to most people right and I walked away and I'll just gonna read you my Text to my sister after I hung out with Nick So I try to play cool and afterwards I get off the plane I go I just hang out with a guy who has such a zest for life I go I've hung out with a lot of rich people but this guy's rich in a different way He is rich in social wealth. He's got tons of friends. He is rich in amusement I feel like everything he does in a way everything he does in a day amuses him and he's doing it on his I go he is corny and totally himself in the best way possible And I'll tell you a couple of the things that just stood out to me like prolific things this guy did this year So we've talked about the Tokyo blind date where he says I want to go to Tokyo But I don't want to go alone I fill out this Google form and I want to take one person on a blind date with me to Tokyo He gets thousands of responses he picks a girl He almost falls in love on this day He does the whole thing publicly and it goes viral this guy's having fun the next thing he does he goes to India He stays in India for like a month and I'm like what are you doing in India? I'm Indian I haven't been in India for a month in like 10 years He's like oh I just love the culture I just wanted to go I know I have a couple of friends that I've met in other travels I just want to go visit their hometown So he goes to these like remote towns in India He's learning their way of life and their foods and all this stuff He's blogging about it and he knows that in India one of the ways that people like they don't have hinge or tinder in the same way Like the old school way in India is you run what's called a matrimonial ad in the newspaper So this is how my mom met my dad which was my dad runs an ad it says you know 21 years old six feet tall you know have a bachelor's degree in engineering You know good head of hair comes from a good family that sort of thing and Nick finds this so amusing He's like I got to do this so he runs a matrimonial and actually he starts a v testing different matrimonial I think showing them to me.
It's like five nine full set of teeth He was like how do I make sure that she's like fit like not like crazy or wait and I was like we were like like I have to be able to lift you on my like I want to be able to lift you on my shoulders like I'm not strong So running these ads but he's not running it like as a prank He was genuinely curious and interested to see what and he just over and over again at these little life experiments and just followed He's just I the way I took it. I go. I feel like he's just taking the bounce of the ball of life He's just going with it. So for example, I'm like, dude You should like start a YouTube channel or something.
He goes oh have one I've never seen it and he shows his YouTube channel Do you know what his YouTube channel is? I've watched the videos But what do you mean what it is? It's reviews of like cruise ships Yeah, which bedrooms he likes on cruise ships because he likes cruises And guess what all his followers are old people who retire and go and cruises and they're like thanks I'm going on its cruise next year. I'm 74 I was wondering if the bathrooms come with the vanity kit and like sure enough That's what he's so into it that he just I've always said the best product is you pushed out and that to me is And it great great He just took himself and flipped himself inside out He was pushing himself out in the world and if you love it if you hate it he really could care less It seems like and I just found it I don't know very like I opening to see somebody who is their own corny self on on full blast and I really admire that For example, I'm interested in stocks.
He's interesting stocks, but the way he's interested stocks is different He is a huge fan of one stock. You know the one Cloudflare Cloudflare he hosts his birthday party a clowns like he creates a WhatsApp group of other cloudflare believers and every earnings call He texts the group and he says like, you know, I hope the earnings gods are with us today I'm feeling lucky. I'm wearing this and I'm just I'm ready for all that in this QQ 2 call brings us I listen to what he did he what he you know I met Nick great because we were all bloggers like 10 years ago And he you know, there's like 30 of us friends who are bloggers He went to each of us and he goes I noticed your website is hosted on whatever go daddy this or that Would it be okay if my assistant transferred your account from go daddy to cloudflare? Well, do it completely for free and in fact the hosting property or the hosting thing that you have they're charging you a hundred Dollars a month cloud player was gonna charge you forty dollars a month I went and got a deal I was like why are you doing this because I'm a shareholder a cloudflare and I need you guys to start using it I think you're gonna love it even more dude.
I swear to god He switched my blog to cloudflare for free and now I'm saving $600 a year He's like a shareholder of his own life in a way that I am not he's like an activist shareholders like he He was like what are the best gyms that have swimming pools and saunas in New York and he found them They were super busy But what he realized was that the all the gyms had poor SEO and when he was googling for best gym And so I'm like nothing was really coming up And so we did was he started writing blogs about other gyms as if they had the best pool and sauna not the one that was near him That actually did so that he would go down in the rankings and be less busy so that he would have it more to himself And these are just like little life experiments You're doing and he made millions of dollars doing this too because he loved museums So he created a business about renegade the museum tours where he would take you on his own tour because museums were boring And he's not boring and he would take on his own tour Unofficially not part of the museum ended up selling that for millions of dollars He like we did the thing about his gag at the party. We're on the way out. He's a Haitian Call my phone. I've got a gag.
He's a guy. I want to do a little bit like a bit You comedian what's going on and then call his phone and he whips out this phone case That's it looks like a butcher's knife like a machete and he puts it up to his head here goes hello And he just wanted to make us laugh and I'm like this guy just goes to life trying to make himself laugh I the last text I sent my sister ago. It's like he you know the movie limitless It's like he took the limitless pill but instead of it getting he didn't give him any superpowers He just is using that pill to enjoy his life in a way that's where the rest of us are not and so he broke my frame Our friend Sahil Sahil bloom. He's got this new shtick where he shares like text like he's like in these group chats And I guess I'll say like some inspirational shit and then he'll like he'll tweet it out He's like here's what I shared with this chat.
It's like like a realization this morning first of all I am I like this enemy I have to say I love Sahil so I'm saying this with love but he'll say some like yeah like live Laugh love for dudes type of shit and like you know like you know Think about wisdom is that you only earn it through like hardship like you know whatever and then some guy retweeted he goes bro It's a dude. It said this in my group chat. He's getting kicked out right away And your sister's reply to that is like like Like She went to his blog and was like he looks funny and it moved on with life I just liked you like an essay about how this man changed my life It's like I google him in search tip. You're like dude you like Oprah cuz I'm doing some over level shit right here And she just like just missed you.
That's pretty funny. I'm crazy man. They're crazy man. Are we gonna do favorite guests now?
Yeah, let's do best guess and then we'll do best idea best business idea that we had on podcast So let's do best guess first. Yeah, this is I worked really hard not to ever see bias But I'm John from Replit. We barely even talked about like the financials of this but I'm pretty sure it's like a billion dollar company, right? Or like yeah last round was like right under a billion dollars.
So like right, you know, he built this huge company I think he's only 36 or 37 crazy smart like his blog is so good He's not just smart like you talk to him like he like is prolific He writes all this amazing stuff He he said one little small line that like I could have dismissed as like a fortune cookie thing But he was like telling how he makes the decisions based off of what will be a better movie But he gave like he examples of that and I totally bought in and I thought that he was amazing and one of the reasons was because of that Like live like to be a good movie. I thought it was fantastic Yeah, he said whenever I'm at a fork in the road on a decision of what to do in life I just asked well, we'll make the better story. Yeah, and I just do that one It was great. He was so fascinating that episode on YouTube I think it has 200,000 views it was a huge hit and it was one of those things where we were recording it And he's like he's low energy and oftentimes high energy people will do better because that's just whatever people are but and I was like I It's raw by this podcast like a lot of times if you spend an hour to happen soon you get tired I was totally excited at the end of that pod and he was a very low melod Low energy mellow guy and I was like, I don't know if this is gonna hit or not But I I love it and so it totally hit so a lot of people thought he was amazing as well There's almost half a million downloads across YouTube and audio on that one.
Oh, really? Yeah, it's at 3.30 on YouTube. All right, so mine I have two one is the highest viewed episode of the year and what is the lowest viewed episode of the year So I'll start with the obvious one the highest you know, this is the episode of Monish Pahri It's at 2.5 million on YouTube alone Wow, so it's the first first podcast episode we're doing this for four or five years now first podcast episode that crossed Like a million on YouTube so I was cool to see but in the moment I knew it was a banger Like it was I felt like it was the best best best podcast I've ever done I remember preparing for it for two weeks. I flew out there We hired a film crew we went to his house I went to his house the day before and hung out with him to like kind of warm up and prep him Like I gave it my absolute all for that interview and it paid off He told he said two things that's there's three things that's me about him He gave this story on the podcast about well, I was like, so what all right You've told me about buffet you told me about yourself You know, you're a friendship with Charlie Munger like what makes a great investor and he basically was He gave me the keys he was like, um, you know people think the money's made in the buyer buying and the selling It's made in the waiting and he basically told the story by goes You ever watched Seinfeld, you know that episode of Elaine goes on up She gets this new boyfriend and it's going great and Elaine loves this guy and he seems so perfect And then they go on vacation together and on the flight She's got like snacks and a movie and like all the stuff like entertainer And he just sits there He's just staring at the seat in front of him just raw-dogging it And she's like, are you sure you don't want like to watch this or read a book or do I stack?
And he's like, no, I'm fine And she's like by the end of the flight she's like, I gotta break up with this guy like this guy's a maniac Uh, we're just sitting there staring at the seat back at the end of him What a brilliant episode idea I know right? How do you come up with that? Like he's perfect like he stares at the seat in front of him on a flight Yeah, she's like, I can't do it, I can't do it And he's like that guy would make a great investment If you can have fun watching the paint dry you can be a great investor And my takeaway was like, I'm not gonna be a great investor, got it, it's not me But at least I knew what the formula was The other things were by the life hack of going to these people's houses for the podcast Hold on, that was a really good comment I know what the formula is, that's actually pretty cool Yes, you know the answer Same thing with I'm John, I'm John Gose I've realized my advantage is that I persist I can push the boulder up the mountain for a long time Like I'm just willing to endure And I was like, oh okay cool, I'm not gonna be with you I'm not gonna be with you Yeah, I'm happy I know what it takes I'm happy I know I don't have it Yeah, exactly The girl, oh she's really into a guy who's got these traits Alright, it's not me, good, nice to meet you later So going to these people's houses, I think it's just this life hack Where you pick up so much of their energy and their lifestyle And their way of being Like I did Monish right before I did Jollon's Dale Jollon's Dale You go to his house It's this elaborate mansion, beautiful, beautiful mansion Backyard, Olympic sized swimming pool with statues that are shooting water out of their mouth And he's got like an old gun from the Victorian age And that's like what he's into He's got full staff that's serving us breakfast and just like full staff that just operates in his house And he's like a high performance machine And right after we left Elon Musk was coming over For a lunch with the senators of the area And I was like wow this is a lifestyle that I just broke my frame Then I go to Monish's house and we're like Hey can we come over? He's like yeah sure stop by He's okay for coming to me 4 and 4, 20 He's like come whatever you want And we go over and he's hanging out He's wearing basketball shorts and his flip-flops And he just took an app which he does every day and he shows us his nap room And he's like yeah my whole job is to make a couple great decisions a year So I just read and I think and I just try to have a great calm state of mind And I meet interesting people and that's all I do I don't have to go go go go go And I don't have to meet the senators and I don't have to have And he shows me his library where we record the podcast Thousands of books he's read all of them And it was just so interesting to see these different ways to win And then you see him up close in person and that's just a very different style I was shadowing him for a day like with Jelonzi I went in the morning 8am And I did the morning workout with him and I had breakfast with him They went to the cold plunge All of that before the podcast hanging out with these people was the real win The podcast was just a cherry on top so that was that was my favorite And I'll also give a shout out to the lowest viewed episode of the year That I thought was amazing which was the episode I did with Mike Posner Also went to his house And they said a lotus because he's a rapper musician Maybe it's not a fit with our audience I think this guy was amazing he was he was an incredibly positive guy And he had all these little micro lessons that were amazing Two of them that stood out to me one was he has this phrase where he was talking about How he made this hit song his first song went like quadruple platinum And then he was always chasing that high in his 20s to do it again The next song went double platinum but it felt like a failure to comparison Next song single platinum oh my god he's on this downswing And then the next one didn't even go platinum And he's like the mistake I was making was I would go to the studio try to make a hit And I went there to try to make a hit song And I wasn't how I made my first hit song first hit song I just did what I thought was dope And then I just started trying to play the game too much trying to make hits And I like succeeded was making something I hated And I just thought this is such an applicable thing for business Especially for people out there who have not tasted their first big win And all they want is a big win or they have a big win and they feel they need to top that with their next one And they start going to the studio to try to make a hit And he said at the end of the day I figured out I'm just gonna make what's cool to me And sometimes the whole world will agree And I just thought that was such a dope philosophy as a creator To take which is I'm just gonna make what's up for me And then once in a while the whole world will agree with me Which by the way like a very meta example here The I don't know how the audio did but the YouTube on this did 13,000 That's like one of the lower in the past year I listened to it and I loved it was so good And then the comments are This is the best episode ever The second comment this was the best episode MFM episode ever Like people loved it in the comments And for some reason it didn't give views That's insane It's also good not to chase those views I think Because I thought it was fantastic It's weird why do you think it didn't hit?
To take his approach Doesn't matter I just do what's cool to me and sometimes the whole world agrees And sometimes they don't Most of the time they don't that's okay And so the two examples I gave in the Monish one Okay it gets three million plays In that case the whole world agreed But I felt the same way about the my poster one I'm proud about the same because I thought they were about dope Alright last two categories That's product What do you have? I would have picked last year but it got way better Like the same product It's the same name but it's a totally better product And I also have found new ways to use it It's almost like You got onto Hogwarts and you're learning new Like oh you're learning how to use your wand It's like oh wow I got I could do that spell with it I could do this with it That's how AI feels to me and I just wrote chat GPT as my quick way of saying it Dude I had a friend over some family friends over yesterday for Christmas And he's worked at OpenAI for four years I cornered him Strapped him down Just cornered him And he's a lot smarter than me And I had my head on his shoulder I was like here we go Have a seat Have a seat Sit down Here's a computer and here's a list of questions Obviously It was just PEP regular with questions I think that was a Chat JPT's a good one What was yours? Best product This thing It says well the focus The brick The focus is off It's the brick This is a $29 thing It has some type of I don't know what it's called the RF ID So for the audio Audio listener stands holding up a little tiny square It's like you know One inch by one inch And this is a thing that just nukes your phone It's basically it's the size of an AirPod case And it's a piece of plastic What's some type of chip in there You download the app I think this thing is $25 Every morning When I'm getting ready to go to the gym I walk by my door and I brick my phone Which means it's completely unusable Other than Making phone calls So my wife can call me for an emergency Spotify And my workout app And so I will keep it like that Until noon Usually So I can't answer texts I can't use Slack Can't use email No Wikipedia No Chrome All I can use is true coach Which is where I have my workouts Phone call for emergency And Spotify And it is awesome It makes my life a little bit better Every morning I'm a big fan of these guys Have you ever used one? I've not used it Maybe I should, that's a good case It's awesome man You can like I have a workout setting And then you could have like a Driving setting So you could just make it like YouTube And like I listen to podcast on YouTube So you have YouTube and maps Available Like that's it And so it's Right cool And I can't Unbreak my phone Unless I come home and I scan it Again And so it's pretty amazing So that's been my best product And is there like an emergency Or like oh for real For real I need Google Maps Right now Like is there a way to override it If you needed to Yeah but I think you only get Three times to do that And the third time you do it This brick that you purchased It's useless And so it's just like Oh but I bought that thing for $30 I wanted to wear it Like that type of like Resistance is just enough Yeah I don't know if I'm built For that level of self-discipline Back in the day I bought that Training for yourself so It's a wristband where You electrocute yourself You get a small electric shock Not actually that small But you get an electric shock In your arm It kind of hurt When you do something It was like how?
But I was using it for my diet And it's like okay I'm going to eat This piece of pizza And then I got to like Voluntarily push this button To like shock myself And I just Didn't And instead all I used it for Was just a conversation piece Like I'd be somewhere But what's that? I'd be like oh try this on Watch this It became like party trick To be cool And say I'm having anything to do Check it out I'm a freak I'm unique Exactly So you use it? No, no, no Does it work? I don't know yet I'm going to try Well it's The hell of a find out Yeah you should try this It's pretty awesome And then The change that you're going to make next year Mine's fast I'm getting an office I'm sick of like Working from home Yeah, like It's cool a few days a week I guess It's cool when you have to do it But yeah We're getting an office I need to be around people It's like Even when businesses going Well you're like Yeah let's get on a zoom But your company's remote So you're going to get an office And then there's local people Or whatever We have 20 employees And like 11 of them Or New York City So we have enough And so we're good We're not in New York So what do you do?
I live an hour away So I'll just go Three days a week Oh my god What a horrible decision Do I have to talk my friend Out of signing up For a voluntary Two hours of commuting a day Do I need to show him The statistics that show How much you hate your life Do you hate your life? Do you hate your new videos? The alternative is That I'm just like In my kitchen And it's like I celebrate with an emoji You know Like just like Look dude I let you break your phone I let you Care about dressing up I let you do all these things That's you know They're self-harm But I let you do it Because there's some greater good Commuting two hours a day Is a horrible idea You know what? How often do you Most of them you saw a coworker I guess you were But your wife I don't count Here's what I did Which is way more genius Diego Who's on this call right now And who helps with all my content He lived in Baltimore As of a month ago And then I called Diego And I said Hey Diego How would you like to live Within 10 minutes of me?
And he's like I'll be down And I go Cool How do we do that in the next two weeks? He's like I guess I'd have to figure Out how to transport my dog And then he quit his job Are you not that quit his job el his wife quit his job Her job He broke his lease He rented an RV And drove across the country In seven days And now he lives with In 10 minutes of me And we see each other Every day we transform My garage Into an office for ourselves And it's great And that's the way to do it Wait so Is the expectation that he's Going to live in an RV For an extended time? Is he going to rent the house? He got an apartment nearby And lives in a cool place And I told him I said Hey you're moving to California So here's a pay raise To cover the cost of your move And the higher cost of living out Here And come live in California Who wants to be Baltimore, bro?
And come hang out with me It's going to be way more fun Yeah that's going to be great To do it Well the weird part is like I realize how How distracted my schedule is Because I feel come over And we're supposed to work And then it'll be like Oh but I gotta like Go drop off my kid at school Then I gotta come back Then my trainer comes over And then I work again And then like my kid wants to play Like Jenga for a second So like be right back And I realize like Oh you know when somebody else is there You're acutely aware that like Wait hold on I'm taking a breaker here And how many of those many breaks I had to kind of rejigger that To be a little more Focus time But honestly it was like Well it's just bet It's like all the times We would be doing calls Us being in person during those Even if it's not perfect So for example sometimes he just comes And works out of the office Even before I'm there I'm dropping my kids up He's just there He just treats it like office And then we just happen to be There together But the key for me is I don't have 20 people Right so I can do this with Because I have two people on my team That's all I need Yeah I might do it in Westport Where I live But you know where I work out Most days is the library Dude I'm in the library And it's just like me And then like 16 year old girls No like type on like a computer Like it's like I forget I love the library I work out a library all the time And I'm like Libraries have a great vibe Dude it's so much better than Like a coffee shop Or we work Libraries are great Yeah There's a there You and I were in Entrepreneur magazine last year And they have a copy of it Like they have a magazine section And you know I definitely move that magazine To the front And everyone's all I'll read it I'm like But we're not on the cover Right? Oh Inside you can open it up I gotta open it up And what people want by I gotta be like Who's that guy in the magazine? Is it right there? Oh what?
It's him for Face Extinction Oh did you ask me if it Yeah it is Uh No I like the library What's yours? Okay library is a great one Um Oh change I'm making Uh this is gonna sound stupid But uh it's not for me I'm all in on music this year I decided that um I wanna be I wanna do more music stuff And so I pick a piano again Playing And I So I basically hired somebody to come teach me piano Cause I did like a seventh grade And I can play like for at least And that's it How many lessons do you have? I'm starting next week And the second one is I've always like you can now make Like most music is now made out of computer And I'm like oh yeah I know computers But I don't know how to make music on a computer And I kind of want to see What's like the latest and greatest Of that So I hired somebody who's like You know those people that know Like beats or like you're gonna like Record a cover You want to write Or you want to cover Original Sorry with covers Yeah sorry with covers always And then And then learn to make an original song That'll be really fun And so And the reason why is Um Well three so wise Cause it's fun But two I Two things are happening One AI is making it easier and easier To make art And software And things that were previously Off limits Or would take a lot of skill To be able to do something cool Now a little bit of coding skill Let you do a lot And a little bit of music skill Can do a lot using Just like I have a gym I go to for my physical body I want a creative gym And I got this idea from Tim Ferris He was talking about One of the ways he keeps his mind right And stays in like an awesome state of mind And is able to produce great content And be really creative He works out his creativity He's like it doesn't have to be in the thing I'm doing So if I'm writing a book It doesn't have to be that I have to Just practice writing He's like I might paint Or do drawing Or calligraphy Or archery Or anything that is sort of like a A creative gym session Yeah And I do that in the morning And he's like it's like When you go to the gym And suddenly you have more energy And you're performing better at work Why is that? Same thing with a creative gym session So I like that idea And I thought Oh yeah This is something I can see More people doing in the future It makes sense to me I'm going to start doing this Just the way I go to the gym in the morning I'm going to go to the creative gym Two or three times a week And start doing something that's highly creative Dude that's so good I think that's fantastic You know Sarah takes My wife she takes piano And singing classes lessons And she's on top of it You guys can vibe out But what I'm trying to encourage her to do Is sign up for some type of open mic night Or just like something Where you can have a recital Dude I got inspired by my cousin He did this So I was like Oh I'm going to do this And then So funny when you put it out there People start just giving you clues on how to win So my sister was like Oh yeah Do you know our cousin Neil?
He does that He's hired a piano coach He's doing it all the time And then he went to an old folks home And he performs there once a week As his title And it gives them so much joy And I'm like wow what a great win A low stakes way To have a performance That brings other people joy And it's just like so wholesome I was like what a great deal In my opinion When you're doing these new things You need like a capstone You need like an essay You need some type of Beginning middle and end Of like all right I have now achieved level one It's like that's kind of like Karate's kind of cool You need some type of like Break the wood board Well there's like a bell Where it's like all right I am working towards this Nice I cross the threshold Max Like that framework Is I think a very helpful You know with writing It's like I want to publish a book It is published Like you know there's some type of like Destination I think that that would be cool That would be cool for you And I think it's by the way Great like you get You and other people tease me for I like clothing It's the same shit It's just like some type of creative Like there's no money There's like it's about the journey That type of like vibe And it is exciting to like you know Beauty and Art Like that shit feels good on the soul I think it's great that you're doing this I think that it would be really fun If you had some type of capstone project thing Yeah the other thing I'm doing Is I'm taking the Jesse Etsler 2025 Like how to plan your year And I'm actually doing it So like yesterday I was doing his get light part Where I'm cleaning out I'm just getting rid of stuff I'm getting light before the end of the year And closing out the year properly I did my thanks Stuff and I started writing my thank you Notes like I'm buying in And I'm actually doing it So if you want to hear it go Listen to the Jesse Etsler episode I was pretty inspired by that I was just We have a good idea We have the counter We use the counter So like I sit in our little area Where we have the counter I totally use it I think it's fantastic It's kind of crazy how Some of these things Maybe 26 and 27 year old Sam and Sean Would have made fun of these things As wack 100% And now it's sort of like even Like you're like What is this? It's stupid It's awesome I'm like going to bed early It's so awesome I used to tell myself all kinds of stories About why I was a night owl How it was more fun How it would be lame to go to bed If a friend was going to bed at 930 I'd be like lame Now I'm like jealous If I hear about a friend that goes to bed at 930 Fuck how did he do that? I need to learn This was a great pod What do you think? I think it's great It's one of my favorite traditions Thank you everybody for listening Another great year in the books The greatest podcast ever created We did something We had to do this like ad for Spotify And when we did it Sean was like You know Spotify told us to thank you guys But in actuality You should be thanking us Because we're the ones who just sell the work To like make the content for you But I am pretty thankful Of everyone who works on the pod I'm also thankful for the people Who actually listen to this shit Like it shocks me sometimes When people come up to me still And they're like Yeah you said this thing and this thing And like it made a difference to me And I feel so much gratitude When people do those things And I'm so happy that we're able to do this Alright and on that note That's the pod I feel like I can rule the world I know I can be what I want to I put my law in it like a day's on Turn the road, let's travel never looking back