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The 2025 Movie Auction Returns!

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Sean and Amanda are joined by Chris Ryan to conduct Part 2 of their 2025 Movie Auction, where they draft, in auction format, some of the movies they're most excited for this year. Before diving in, they remember the wonderful career of Michael Madsen, who tragically passed away this weekend at 67 years old (2:38). Then, they review the results from their earlier selections this year and revisit the rules and scoring system going forward, before launching into this year's slate, including some mega-blockbusters like 'Superman' and ‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’, as well as some smaller but still exciting indies like 'The Ballad of a Small Player' and ‘It Was Just an Accident’ (7:40). Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Chris Ryan Producer: Jack Sanders THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY THE STARBUCKS COFFEE COMPANY. ORDER NOW | STARBUCKS.COM/MENU  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm Sean Fennese. And this is The Big Picture conversation show about auctioning. It is the midway point of the year, and so we are auctioning once again to fill out our slates, which means Chris Ryan's here. Hi, how are you?

Nice to see you guys. Nice to see you Chris. Last time I saw you, we were crying arm in arm watching a wild bunch on 70 millimeter of the Egyptian. It was a magical night.

Me, you, Tyler Parker, 300 other very normal men experiencing cinema together. I mean, takeaways from that night out. I just can't believe how alive and well the spirit of movies is in Hollywood. There was also a Trump rally, I think in Hollywood.

Yes, it was organized and you're getting it out to the movie. It was so strange. It just gave me a free pro. How are you?

How was your weekend? Did you go to the Trump rally? It was lovely. No.

I went to the beach and I had a great time and now I'm back. You're sitting between the two of you. I can't tell. Are you getting tired of us?

I was excited to see you. And then he got a little spicy about the box office. And then you guys were doing your wild bunch of, which sounds really nice. The 70 millimeter festival is one of the great things that happens in the city.

It is. It's really cool. It was opening weekend and we've all got tickets for various films throughout the month, which will be exciting. Wild bunch holds up.

It's definitely a movie about men not knowing how to be around each other and alive. And constantly making choices about the end of the world. So, you know, resonant. And these times, unfortunately, I know it's not alive.

Jesus Christ. That was a segue. You can't get in the way of a segue like that. I'll do a better segue.

A guy who wouldn't have been a stranger in a Sam Peckham movie. How about that? That's right. Michael Madison would have fit right in.

He passed away at 67 on July 3rd, tragically, you know, star of probably most member of the for us for Quentin film. I think most of us probably saw him for the first time as Mr. Blonde in Reservoir Dogs. He was also in both Kill Bill movies.

He was in the H8 late. Actually going through his filmography kind of blown away by the depth of work that he did in the 90s and 2000s. He really was in from the doors to the natural to kill me again. Donny Brasko.

Free Willy. I was going to say donny dareship. Free Willy. I mean, wider piece.

A ton of movies over the years. A lynchpin often identified as a tough guy, but I was thought more like your cool nihilist. You know, anything goes kind of character. Very strange presence.

Yes. Let's cut the road. Dance. Yeah.

He's been working mostly in independent and VOD stuff in the last 15, 20 years, but just one of my favorite people to see pop up in a movie and also one of the stars of your favorite movie species. Sure. Yes. Which is about an alien woman comes to this planet and murders her prey.

It's very to be rewatchable. So I've heard Bill sees him. I haven't been drafted yet, but you know, I always I'm waiting for the bat signal to go up. Okay.

Speaking of bat signals, you guys saluted to a dino shaped shadow in the sky. Jurassic World rebirth. It opened this weekend to $147 million domestically. How are you feeling?

I feel good. But I think the other underlying story here is Scarlett Johansson is our most successful movie star. Yeah. Well, she, the Avengers are counting towards that total, right?

Sure. So she's just racking up franchises at this point. Yeah. I think that honestly, when you look at the list of people who are the most successful actors of all time, it's usually because they've been a part of a really long running franchise.

Samuel Jackson for a while was I think the reigning box office king. Vin Diesel probably, probably kicks up. Definitely. So it's not stunning, but another savvy career move by ScarJo staying in the news.

Anything you want to say to the people or to the dinosaurs? Have you thought about whether or not you were too hard on them? No, it's terrible. Go back to Cameron again.

Gareth, you're a very talented craft person. Your scripts are terrible. I don't know what to tell you, man. This is like five movies in a row.

The box office is just been killing it for over three months. I had my little emotional break in March where I was like, God, TV, light lotus and all these other limited series. And then ever since then, I spoke it out of existence. It's just the movie time.

CR you hosted television podcast. How's that going? It's going fine today. We talked about the Eternaut, an Argentine Argentinian show about the end of the world or about a Depacolic event.

And then we also talked about Smoke, which is Dennis Lane's Apple TV show, which Andy hated. And I thought it was fine. Okay. Interesting.

I think it's on the other side of a very passionate argument that I don't have a ton of passion for. Okay. Yeah. This reminds me that I need your box password so I can watch the show about the Miffords.

There's another show about the Miffords. I don't think there's ever actually been a show about them. A man who's constantly creating content around that. Obviously, many people have been, many characters have been modeled on them throughout time, including perhaps one movie, the one of us will auction in the fall.

Or a Bennett from Jurassic World Reversus. Yeah. There was a show, there was a mercenary quality show. That's true.

Any thoughts on Jurassic World? It actually kind of like underperformed relative to the franchise? Yeah. Yeah.

Do you know what the three-day weekend box office was for this movie? $147 million. No, that was the five-day weekend. That was what your dollars from like, say, morning and a.

That's true. The three-day weekend was 91. Okay. Wow.

That's pretty low actually relative to the typical three-day weekend for Jurassic movies. And he seems to come along to bust it out. I don't know. What else did you do this weekend that has given us this mind?

What do you mean? He's just like, okay. He's okay. Okay.

Yeah. I'm just confused by you guys being like, we need more of these Jurassic World movies. You go like, I rarely do this, but I will remember you said that. Yeah.

If you're like, of course, Jurassic World, which I thought was really thoughtful. I think you count on me not checking the tape, but this one's singed. I'm going to remember this. Okay.

Fair enough. If I do that, you have the privilege to shoot me in the face. I promise I will not press charges. Great.

Should we talk about the movie auction? Absolutely. We have some updates. Well, we can go through our slate, but you know, a gentleman named Sam Bertwistle has been working on the show for us this summer.

He's been helping us build out our documents, provide research, and he made a proposition about the scoring system that we have for the movie auction. I will admit, is one of my least thought out projects in the history of the show. We kind of, I came up with it like on a Sunday at 9pm before a Monday record. I was just like, guys, can we do this?

Yeah. And you said yes. I had no parameters for success. We didn't properly track it across the year.

There were no stakes whatsoever. A year ago, I added some wrinkles to the rules, which I admit. A year ago or six months ago. I think it was, it was for 2024.

Yeah. It was the second one of 2024, I believe. The triggers were added at the beginning of 2024, which included a Metacritic score and box office and Oscar nominations as indicators of a strong slate of auctioned off movies. That's great.

Again, not some of my best work. Sam. But I think these pods are some of our best work. I do.

I do. I do. I do discussions at the state of cinema. I'll take a word for that.

We have new places. We learn new things about each other in the world. Yeah. That may be true.

I don't want to upset that. Yeah. Let me just, I don't want to spoil this action, but I am bringing an original auction energy to my personal list and prep for this podcast. That means that I looked at the letterbox list one minute ago, which that's okay.

Okay. I did read the new rules, but there are new rules. If we want to adapt this. Yeah.

I'll just read them out to you guys. I don't know if you're going to get past the freedom caucus. Yeah. Major Marjorie Taylor Greene energy this morning.

Fuck, fuck, Marjorie Taylor Greene. So this would be the new proposed scoring rather than just having triggers like we had in the past where if you crossed $100 million domestically, that indicates you're cleared and your board is valid. We could have more of a tiered system. So $150 million to be 1.

$300 million to be 1. $450 million to be 1. So on and so forth, likewise for Metacritic. 79 on Metacritic would be 1.

82 on Metacritic would be 1.85 would be 1. And then the highest in the draft. Metacritic wise would also get an additional point. Now I said an 85 Metacritic bar last year, which is pretty hot.

There's usually only roughly 10 to 12 movies that cross that threshold and nine of them are films that most people will not see. And then of course there's Oscars. So there's below the line nominations and wins. Only half a point.

Not very respectful to our cops people. Yeah. I think we can also. Anything that Sam has suggested here above the line would be one point and a best picture would also be one point.

So thoughts on this framework. I like it. I also think that there would be my revision to this would be like should we get a Tony reality-esque kind of like live scoring going to like to mix it up. You know where a guy is just like 10 points.

That's a great that's a great idea. You know, like do you want Jack Sanders to be scoring us in real time? I mean, that is something that we probably could pull off. We have a revolving cast of Tony realities.

Okay. You know, you want to have like a guest come in mid auction and determine, you know, when we first started doing the auction, we had Danny Heifetz come in and explain. That's right. I was right.

I was very nervous about auctioning. Right. And bring your fantasy football co-host and participant in many of fantasy draft over the years. This is sort of our version of the fantasy draft.

So we could do that in the future. We're not doing it today. Okay. And the results, which I acknowledge mean nothing because we weren't using these rules.

Because I'm winning. So that's of course, you've acknowledged that last year's. Well, the scores from last year because of that attitude that I would have had 38 points. Chris, you would have had 13.5 and Amanda would have had 10.

Now, obviously that's that's meaningless relative to what we're talking about here. But do you want to do this? You want to use this? Sure.

I'm rolling with it. I don't think anything will materially change for me. In terms of what you're going for. Yeah.

You know, because we introduced, I guess we had some thresholds last summer. There was some sequel stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

But we really got into it in January and I, this strategy just kind of trying to think and strategy really threw me off like my course, which is doing what's best for me. And like not giving a shit about what anybody else thinks has brought me this far. So where would you say that is? I don't really have to care about box office.

I don't really respect other people's opinions. So I don't need to care about medical. So I think it's good. There was a lot of numbers that you just said.

So I'm happy that Sam is doing the math and not me. I don't know who you just referenced is or how that would function. Tony. Tony reality.

He was the host of Around the Horn, which is like part of the interruption around the world. Yeah. Yeah. And like, you know, people would have a take and he would be like constantly giving them points or taking away points depending on like what he thought of their takes.

Oh, so it was like live in the episode. Yeah. I mean, I do think we should have like more like buttons and interactive. You know.

Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. You're doing okay.

This year. You are doing well this year, but I thought I was winning. July 7th. A lot of ball game left here.

Okay. Let's go through our sleights from last year because I don't know what I meant. Last year or last last last. Last draft, okay.

Because yeah, what did you get last year and where is this or last season and what does it stand? Well, let's see. The first one I have is Megan 2.0, which was just, you know, a disaster. I like, did I fuck up?

Did they fuck up? Who can really say you should go on the town and talk about it? I thought that Jason Wong was very, very savvy to go on the town and I listened to all of it and enjoyed it. It didn't speak to my personal complaints with the film Megan 2.0, which you and I both saw.

We did. That didn't really pin out. No, I think they overthought what they would, I think that Jason was right about the fact that Megan was not as flexible and fungible a character as they hoped and then the idea of pivoting this into a sci-fi action movie. I think they've done that though.

To me there's something else, there are a number of other factors going on. I think the movie ultimately is just not as strong as the first movie. It's not as funny, it's not as energetic and propulsive. And then on top of that.

It was a little funny though. It's the same film that you're performing in the first film. It's just doing too much and it's trying to, there is an opening set piece in some, you know, weapon system silo in an undisclosed location that has nothing to do with Megan and you're just kind of like what's going on. It's actually pre-CR coded.

Yeah, and that's a Megan Linus. There's the villain, the 2,1,000 of the movie is a kind of Linus. And I think you would be actually trying to turn it on. Or there's a lot of Linus, there's an effective story is you also get a sense of their home life.

They're not robots, you know? Right. I'm sure that's true of Linus. I think the other thing with the movie is they released in the middle of June, which just noticed, which is like a weird release date and it's 2 hours long and that movie's like that should always be 95 minutes.

That made no sense to me. I agree with all of what you said. And then as Matt sort of pointed out on the town, they did not have like the massive viral marketing moment that propelled Megan 1.0. You can't fault anyone for not having that, but that was the dancing and the TikTok of it all certainly played a part of the other people.

I think they were also obviously just competing with a lot more movies for that viral mind share engine. It's just like how to train your dragon was a massive movie that the same studio put out. There's only so much kind of interesting. It's a delivery movie.

It's like a perfect computer. The first one absolutely was. It was like it was it was water in the desert in the January release late a year and a half ago. So anyway, moving didn't work.

So that didn't help you very much. So yeah, and I was banking on that from a box office perspective. It didn't really work. But I did get out from one, which I think is going to help me with box office and also hopefully technical categories.

So once again, I do think it's disrespectful that it only gets point five. There's exceedingly high chance it will be not made at least for best sound. Yeah. Maybe best editing cinematography.

Yeah. Volume around, I believe was nominated for Talk on Network. Yeah. So I could see that.

See, so listen, we could we could set up. Okay, I got Opus, which is a sentimental favorite. So that's fine with me Venetian scheme, which is another one of my favorite movies of the year. So I feel good about that.

I think, you know, once again, the critics are not helping me with the medic critics for and I don't respect them and they don't respect me, apparently, or West Anderson. Maybe Oscars, but you know. Do you think it's the critics choice they have Amanda meeting? I'm not just respecting.

Cool. I don't really respect the critics. The Oscars that, you know, also don't really respect West Anderson. So that seems, but it's fine.

I have it because I like it. And then Marty Supreme hasn't been released yet. Yes. And to me, we pray.

At the moment, you've got one total point relative to this new scoring system because F1 is likely to cross $150 million domestically. F1 doing pretty well. Yes. Not amazingly well at the box office, but well enough, I think.

Chris, let's talk about your sleep. I sitters, which got two points for its Metacritic score and $1.478 million box office. I guess that's domestic. That's domestic.

I took Jurassic World rebirth where I got one point will certainly clear the box office threshold. Might get to two. Might get over 300. And then high is two lowest sentimental value and running man are my other three picks.

Not to be released yet. Yeah, to be released. High slow seeing it tonight. Very excited.

Are you really? Yeah. He's going with my husband. I'm very excited for you guys.

Okay. So Chris, you've got four points right now. I think you also have probably a win for all coming on centers in terms of nominations. That will turn out to be probably the pick of the year.

Yeah. I would guess. Congratulations Chris. Well done.

For me, I've got Mission Impossible Final Reckoning, which you know, I just didn't really like very much. Unfortunately for me. Yeah. Chris hated it more.

Would you like to say any more rude things? I think I'm on record on the watch podcast because I hope people carve out a little bit of time. That's your second watch. You can sell like a nonprofit.

Like, you know, we're on the basis right now. Standing on the shoulder of giants. Yeah. Shoulder.

Yeah. You are the shoulders. Yeah. You're the win beneath my rings, honestly.

That movie has gained $191 million to box office. So that's one point. Not getting past there. 67 on Metacritic.

Not ideal. But roughly. Honestly, how much were it? Yeah.

Yeah. The Venetian scheme is 70 and this movie is 67 is pretty comfy in my opinion. Yeah. 28 years later.

A movie that I think I'm going to get no points from, but I feel good about having on my sleeve. I loved 77 Metacritic score, $60 million box office domestically. Still some open question as though whether there will be a third movie in that franchise. I think that'll, that January release will be good for the bone temple.

Could be a, could be a Megan situation. Well, I just think it's a great time to be like, here's, here's an action horror movie. Totally great. Not the point of the game.

But we'll see. A big, beautiful journey is still to come in September. I've not seen it. Can't say I love the trailer to be honest though.

I really like Hogan out of the director. So hopefully that's good. One battle after another. Yeah.

Paul Thomas Anderson. You're welcome. That was very kind of you to allow that to happen. I'll view it as penance for all the times I gave you things that you wanted.

Okay. One buck. One buck for one battle. I was, I was filled with the spirit of, you know, generosity and community.

Is this for your children? Take a career. Ten weeks. That movie comes out.

Yeah. Ten weeks. Looking forward to it. Yes.

I would really be looking forward to a Venice opening night premiere. Oh, yeah. I think that will happen. No.

I don't either. But I was thinking about it literally in the shower last night. Like I wonder. What was I just reading about that?

My God of Venice. And I was like, ha ha. It was something weird. I was like, that would be funny if she has to see that.

I can't remember. But I was like, this is hilarious. It was the Putin movie. Oh, sorry.

It was like, I'll be there. Nothing would have been funnier than using a Joker folio. I know. Thank you.

Being the opening. No, here's the thing about the ovations, it's just like you're just standing around. It's a good sized theatre, but it's not like everyone's on like a balcony at the Opera removed from you. And everyone's just kind of clapping and the lights are up and you're checking your phone and clapping some more.

It's very strange. Honor Vladimir. I'll be there. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a movie about him.

I did not even know that was happening. Olivier, it's a, it's making a movie of Vladimir Putin. I think he's done. Yeah.

I think it's, I was not aware of that. That's fascinating. Okay. Um, and you had Edington.

And I had Edington. I was my last movie, which I've seen and loved and we will talk about on the show in 10 days. Um, you know what? I saw when I was watching the trailer for Edington or maybe it was a clip from it.

It reminded me of my Romulus story of the two guys holding their phones in each other. That's basically Edington. Pretty accurate. It's pretty accurate.

Okay. Uh, I don't know. It's just doing shitty place. So perfect.

Okay. Okay. Uh, the highest medical exports of the year so far, three movies. Sorry, baby.

Just had a Victor on the show last week. Talk about that familiar touch, which I recommended on our best of the year episode and caught by the tides, which Adam Neiman, uh, on that episode as well. Seven movies have broken the $150 million threshold. What was your meme of the, you versus Adam Neiman?

Oh, Michael Porter Jr. Yeah. I'm Kim Johnson. Yeah.

We think he's going to win that trade. The nuggets. Yeah, I think it's stupid. Uh, movies that have crossed $150 million threshold.

Of course, some of these movies have you seen a Minecraft movie? Nope. We lo and stitch. Nope.

An outrage. Sinners. Yes. Uh, how to train your dragon.

Nope. Captain America Brave New World. Yes. Mission Impossible.

The final wrecking. Yes. Thunderbolts. Yes.

Five of seven. Very good. Joe popcorn over here. Uh, I'm in and seeing all of them because she signed up for this life with me.

No, I actually didn't see a Minecraft movie. Oh, I thought you went inside like 10 in the morning or something like that. No, I mean, every single other movie you just listed and I went and saw it. Okay.

Um, that's okay. Cause the spirit entered my body when I saw Minecraft and that was the turning point for movies or bats when cinema came that way. That was when it all happened. True foe in Hitchcock.

Rolling around in Epidots. Thank you, Jared Hess for all that you have done. Uh, according to DraftKings, the best picture betting odds right now, sentimental value at plus 500, which CR currently has additional films, which may or may not be auctioned off today. Okay.

Sorry. Cinnamonal value is the betting favorite for best picture. Well, when you look at when you look at the best picture race this year, it's confusing. We said this last year and it turned out to be the in our year, but I remember in the first half of last year, we were like, this is a weird year.

And this is also kind of a weird year. There's not like a big. I won't stand for any hit pieces on my guy, Joe. My guy came true.

Yeah. Fuck that. We're not doing that. I'm not on the show.

We love him. I'm just saying when the Oscars starts, people are just like, Hmm, what about this? What about that? I'm like, you mean when he gets in the news cycle?

Yeah. You what if I am really oppressed? No, that won't. That's not going to happen.

Did you watch the trailer for it? Sonoma? No, I won't do it. Yeah.

Okay. Show us the movie. I was quite touched by the trailer. Yeah.

Well, sure. I'm going to be very moved by the film. I won't be watching that trailer or that trailer. The weapons trailer.

Unfortunately, I thought in a movie theater, the second one, I need that movie. I only saw the cinema confidence and it looked really messed up and good. Yeah. You guys didn't auction that last time?

We did not. It is available right now. Oh, yeah. So it can be interesting for us.

Can I auction it if I have no intention of ever seeing it? Sure. You can do it every night. Maybe maybe I'll see, but it's it's just, yeah, it seems really a matter.

Yeah. Um, additional films that are on the list for the best picture betting odds after the hunt. It'll look like what I mean, you know, movie is plus 700, but that little small player. Almost a surely advantage.

I think probably tell you right to if I had to guess. Okay. That's your business. Sorry.

Well, how is this introduced? We were these lists of films that we're doing just films that are just the best picture odds. I know. Do we think about what the slates are going to be for us after the hunt is the Luca movie, the ballot of a small player is the Edward Burger, McCow, Colin Farrell, gambling movie, which we're all very excited about.

Now that I have a bit of a riff about Netflix, if you guys are interested to hear it. Sure. No, sure. So that's loaded up.

Well, it's nothing negative really. It's just that I would argue that six of the 14 most anticipated movies are all in that. Sure. But then you're taking the box off its hit.

That's an app. That's an interesting. Yeah. So you got to want it.

You've got Jay Kelly, the No Bomb Back movie, you've got Frankenstein from GDT, Train Dreams, which premiered at Sundance and they picked up Wake Up Dead Man, the third Knives Out movie, The Ballad of a Small Player, and Catherine Bigelow's House of Dynamite. What the fuck? So that's a really exciting slate for Netflix. And that's the new guy, right?

Well, I think that most of those movies are holdovers in the Scott's doop era. OK. But they'll be pushing them out. And I want to see all those movies now.

You have to draft electric state. You can. And then behind them Hamnet, sinners, Avatar, Fire and Ash, these are other potential best picture nominees. I think probably only two or three of those movies will be nominated for this picture.

And there's going to be a bunch of stuff that we don't know about or isn't listed here that we'll get into. OK, movie auction. Now we have to determine who gets to put the first movie up, right? So Jack, can you help us with that?

Jack, you want to explain to people what you're using? Absolutely. Rest in peace, Top Gun Hat, I do not own one. In the green room, I found a large Dungeons and Dragons die, which I will be using to select today's nomination.

So it's like soccer ball size. It is literally the size of a soccer ball, which is I'm told is not what the normal die size is. I don't believe so. OK.

Shall I go? Yeah. Please. Here we go.

Great, great sound effects. I'm looking out for the audio listeners. Nominating first. CR.

Give us the chaos. Second will be Sean Tennessee, third Amanda Davis. OK. When you you had first pick the year that you did House of Gucci for like $500, right?

I'm not going to make that mistake, but I am going to keep you guys on your toes. You're going to make another mistake. So just for the listeners at home, we each have $1,000 of imaginary money to auction two. We all need five films to fill out our slate.

So we have 10 movies total. So Chris, you have the honors. Do you know what you want to do? First pick, first nomination, first movie up for auction.

Let's do it. Let's keep it. In the same track we were on. I'm going to put ballad of a small player up first.

Edward Burger on the Sydney Pollock track could be the safest pair of hands we've got right now. And this film sounds a little wistful, a little contemplative. It's about a con man on the run. Down and out in the cow, a place I have not been.

And he's confronting ghosts, pan-dets of the soul. But I'm getting like wafts top notes of Michael Clayton from this one. Yeah. Like it feels like it's going to be more than just like Colin Farrell and Sam.

And I like it's Oscar chances despite it's Netflix pedigree. Okay. I think it's going to be seen by a lot of people and it feels like a good bet. So I'm going to go with that.

Unlike all the other Netflix titles I mentioned, I haven't really heard much about this movie. I don't. Based on an novel, 2014 novel. Yeah.

It's Rowan Joffee is the screenwriter. Right. So that's a little bit of a. Yeah.

I was with you. Twenty-eight weeks later before I go to sleep, then a cool kid movie. Not like he's no Tony Gilroy. Yeah.

Okay. We'll see. We'll put on a hundred bucks. We'll put on a hundred bucks.

A hundred bucks. Yeah. I'll say 125 to play the game with you. Also, we'll say Colin Farrell racking up some awards love over the last couple of years.

I think everybody enjoys interviewing him. He's a great guy to have around on the round tables. Great speeches. Yep.

Has been in LA for the last couple of years doing sugar and I feel like he's out and about. Like people really like Colin Farrell right now. He will also be in a big old beautiful journey. I'm a ballad of a small player.

I don't think has a release date. I would assume October, maybe late September. Okay. That's pretty soon.

It's probably a movie that's in the discussion for the festivals. Netflix usually has a really strong presence of Venice. Do you have any interest in this movie? You like it, Robert?

I do. And I think I was really, really into it respectfully until you brought up Michael Clayton and I was like, this is like a B Michael Clayton. Then I'll be a little sad, but also I would watch a B Michael Clayton every day. So I'll do what you did 125.

Yeah. 140. Okay. We're playing 150.

Is Colin Farrell a few wins an Oscar? Does it feel like you've won an Oscar? Do you feel like that goes on my mental? I think that it would put a capstone on one of the great sustained comebacks in acting modern acting history.

Is that too big of a statement? I think it was really in the wilderness for a minute there. He was always working, but working and not a lot of good stuff. Yeah.

And he seemed to have some personal stuff too. But always super talented. What is it? I'll say 155.

160. I mean, a movie about a high stakes gambler and Macau is pretty pornography to me. Trust Edward Burger. Yeah.

I do kind of believe this. Let me let me, uh, proper question to you both. Would you rather have Edward Burger make the next Bond and Denis Villeneuve make whatever movie Edward Burger was going to make next? Yeah.

I think so. Yeah. I think that's probably, you know, we all agree. We all agree with the fact that we're going to be a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more.

Yeah. I think that's the, the film that you want to see Denis make next. Yeah. That's the, which one, which one is enemies, the big spider and prisoners to is Jeline Hall and Hugh Jackman.

Yeah. I mean, what prisoners? This is when J. J.

Jeline Hall goes to the guys house. He's like, why were you shopping in the kid section? But enemy is the unofficial sequel to the wild bunch about the vision between men. It's about a pregnant lady and twins.

That's cool. That's the spiders. Oh my God. What do you got to do?

You got 155? I think I said 160. You think? 165.

This is my thing. They didn't nominate him. They didn't nominate him last year. But I'm going to thank him for all quite on the Western Front, didn't they?

Yeah. Did they? They may not have, I, let's see. I find out about that.

Remember when you were like, no, they did not. Only for screenplay. He has been nominated for director. Oh, okay.

Well, I'm sticking with her guns. 165. I can't take, I can't take Colin Farrell gambling with how from you. Thank you.

I think this is a, this is going to be fun. This is a movie we should see together. Is it going to be fun or is it going to be, you know, if it's dark out of the soul, that's great for me. That's true.

I think it's going to be a little bit more pop to the Swinton swanning around. Right. I mean, concrete, you could also say is about longing and, you know, man trying to figure out what is very procedural. Exactly.

So this could be, I hope that this has some, if this has a great entry as well. You suggested that Carter was not procedural. I think it was more of like a, you know, is what the procedure is. It's not a great, yeah.

Right. Interrogation of torture. Right. Okay.

So I have to put a movie up. Congrats to you. Okay. So one 65 is what you did.

Yeah. That was value. Okay. I think this is good, good fodder for conversation.

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