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EPISODE · May 20, 2026 · 1H 5M

The $40 Trillion Real Estate Shift

from The Pavan Perspective · host Pavan Agarwal

In this episode of The Pavan Perspective, Pavan Agarwal and Tim Harris discuss how Ai is transforming the future of real estate and mortgages. From Ai-powered mortgage approvals and automated transactions to tokenized real estate and the Clarity Act, they explore how technology could reshape ownership, investing, and wealth creation in the years ahead. They also dive into why human relationships will remain essential in an Ai-driven market, how agents can adapt to rapid industry change, and what real estate professionals should be doing today to prepare for the future. Don’t miss this insightful conversation on Ai, tokenization, and the next evolution of real estate.Speaker InformationPavan AgarwalCEO of Sun West and Creator of AngelAiPavan Agarwal is the Chief Executive Officer of Sun West, one of the largest independent, privately owned mortgage companies based in the U.S. He is also the founder of Celligence, which harnesses the best of Artificial Intelligence and Emphatic Technology to make mortgages simple and accessible to everyone. Pavan is a major proponent of Fair Lending and using technology to create homeownership opportunities for underserved markets. He loves to bring innovation into the mortgage industry and seamlessly integrate business units, products, and disparate goals into a single architecture to achieve success. Pavan's exceptional achievements have garnered recognition from prestigious media outlets, including Fox News, Yahoo!, and Bloomberg. He's also been nominated for a national philanthropy award for his work with The Autism Community in Action (TACA).Tim Harris Real Estate Coach, Author, and Industry TrainerTim Harris is a leading real estate coach and co-founder of Tim & Julie Harris Real Estate Coaching. With over two decades of experience, Tim has built a reputation as one of the industry's top coaches, helping thousands of real estate professionals achieve success. In their first year as Realtors®, Tim and his wife Julie sold over 100 homes, paving the way for their future accomplishments.Tim and Julie have authored multiple books, including the bestselling HARRIS RULES, and have been recognized by Inman News as the “Best Coaches in the Industry.” They have coached top-producing agents across the U.S. and provided training for major organizations such as RE/MAX and Keller Williams. Their practical, no-nonsense approach has made their coaching programs some of the most sought after in real estate.AngelAi®, Fox News, Yahoo!, Bloomberg, and CNBC are registered trademarks of Celligence LLC, Fox Media LLC, Yahoo Inc., Bloomberg Finance One L.P., and NBCUniversal Media, LLC, respectively.Sun West Mortgage Company, Inc. is acting as the Lender and offers financing to qualified borrowers. Sun West Mortgage Company, Inc is not affiliated with any third parties mentioned above. The names are owned by the respective third parties.

In this episode of The Pavan Perspective, Pavan Agarwal and Tim Harris discuss how Ai is transforming the future of real estate and mortgages. From Ai-powered mortgage approvals and automated transactions to tokenized real estate and the Clarity Act, they explore how technology could reshape ownership, investing, and wealth creation in the years ahead. They also dive into why human relationships will remain essential in an Ai-driven market, how agents can adapt to rapid industry change, and what real estate professionals should be doing today to prepare for the future. Don’t miss this insightful conversation on Ai, tokenization, and the next evolution of real estate.Speaker InformationPavan AgarwalCEO of Sun West and Creator of AngelAiPavan Agarwal is the Chief Executive Officer of Sun West, one of the largest independent, privately owned mortgage companies based in the U.S. He is also the founder of Celligence, which harnesses the best of Artificial Intelligence and Emphatic Technology to make mortgages simple and accessible to everyone. Pavan is a major proponent of Fair Lending and using technology to create homeownership opportunities for underserved markets. He loves to bring innovation into the mortgage industry and seamlessly integrate business units, products, and disparate goals into a single architecture to achieve success. Pavan's exceptional achievements have garnered recognition from prestigious media outlets, including Fox News, Yahoo!, and Bloomberg. He's also been nominated for a national philanthropy award for his work with The Autism Community in Action (TACA).Tim Harris Real Estate Coach, Author, and Industry TrainerTim Harris is a leading real estate coach and co-founder of Tim & Julie Harris Real Estate Coaching. With over two decades of experience, Tim has built a reputation as one of the industry's top coaches, helping thousands of real estate professionals achieve success. In their first year as Realtors®, Tim and his wife Julie sold over 100 homes, paving the way for their future accomplishments.Tim and Julie have authored multiple books, including the bestselling HARRIS RULES, and have been recognized by Inman News as the “Best Coaches in the Industry.” They have coached top-producing agents across the U.S. and provided training for major organizations such as RE/MAX and Keller Williams. Their practical, no-nonsense approach has made their coaching programs some of the most sought after in real estate.AngelAi®, Fox News, Yahoo!, Bloomberg, and CNBC are registered trademarks of Celligence LLC, Fox Media LLC, Yahoo Inc., Bloomberg Finance One L.P., and NBCUniversal Media, LLC, respectively.Sun West Mortgage Company, Inc. is acting as the Lender and offers financing to qualified borrowers. Sun West Mortgage Company, Inc is not affiliated with any third parties mentioned above. The names are owned by the respective third parties.

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