I think the death of like that they presented in Toy Story 3, like that some toys go to the dump and are just there for eternity, just consciously staring at like a rotting banana peel for all of eternity is like too dark. Yeah. And like, so they have to. I genuinely just don't remember what happened. It's got Brave Little Toaster vibes, which I think is.
a movie that is a reason I have a hard time throwing things away because I will amplify more of those things very quickly. And I blame that movie. It's like maybe buy orders for orders to create new orders. Exactly, kind of. Right. And the Pixar proposition is buy the fucked up version of the new one that we had in the movie. The fork thing. Yes. It is wild. I mean, I assume the fork thing, the whole message was anything could be a toy. You have to spend money on this. There's a $20 version. There's an interesting theory because Steve Jobs was involved in the development of the first Toy Story movie.
And there's a way that you, because his whole philosophy on the world is like, objects are beautiful. They have an inner life that like you have to like design them to more. And so there's a way to like view Toy Story and like the whole Pixar universe where like inanimate objects have inner lives as like part of a Steve Jobs philosophical universe. Yeah, yeah. Just capitalism as religion. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Your stuff is a person. Your stuff is a person. You should feel bad for not loving your stuff. Otherwise get preventable cancer at the end. Oh yeah, one more thing. What if your stuff is person?
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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 452, Episode 3 of The Daily Zeitgeist! Yeah, yeah. This is a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where you take a deep dive into American shared consciousness through the day's news. We also have a new non-news history version of TDZ dropping each Monday morning called The Iconograph, where we do a deep dive into the Zeitgeist through the lens of a different icon. Today we have a...
guest co-host and a guest who are all-stars of the Iconograph. They've been on for Sherlock. Yes. For the Easter Bunny. Two of our most popular episodes, actually. Sherlock and the Easter Bunny. The Easter Bunny was really fun. It was fascinating. Yeah, that was interesting. Our soft pitch on the Easter Bunny episode is bring the Easter Bunny's femininity back. The Easter Bunny is our May Queen. Oh, sure. We keep casting the Easter Bunny as Russell Brand. Right, like a bow tie. Yeah, yeah. It's got to be like a little...
little rich kid it might heal us all yeah honestly yeah but like they've robbed her of her femininity kind of like da vinci code coded yeah you know the da vinci code is like return the femininity to christianity have you not read the da vinci no i've missed out oh man you had a divorcee in that really i just remember right paul bettany's all bald and shit in the movie yeah yeah that's it that's giving himself a flipping yeah yeah i think i might have stopped the movie at that point. I was like, you know what? I'm good. Some really interesting thoughts in there. It's actually got some interesting things to say about Catholic Church. And it's horribly written. Fair enough. One of the most poorly written books I've ever read. I haven't seen the movie. I could not get past Tom Hanks' hair. That was too much for me.
You know, the Americana has Da Vinci Code level clues built into it. Really? Masonic or what are we talking about? Masonic, yeah. On the dome, there's like a weird like acorn or something up there that like represents like whatever. And it's all, what's his name? The billionaire. Yeah, Caruso like is a big fan of all that stuff. So he has stuff built into the Americana. I love that, but also I don't find him unnerving enough yet. What's his first name? Rick Caruso. He's the type of capitalist. I was going to say David, but that's the other guy. Yeah. Rick Caruso seems like the kind of dude that would like.
Like all the clues line up to just like a QR code for like 40% off the parking at any Caruso property. Totally. The trolleys are named after his daughter. What are they named? I don't. I don't pay. You're actually not allowed to know that. But they are. I at one point knew three trolley operators. That's why I have. What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I love the trolley. His whole design aesthetic. While we really. This is live podcast. Yeah. His whole design aesthetic was he went to Caesar's Palace and was like every building. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. What if everywhere was Vegas? Right here. It's Thursday, August 20th, 2026. We're still at that part of the show. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. And this is courtesy of Blinky Heck. In reference to Pallavi wanting to fake punch me. They call me David Flincher. How the flinch stole Christmas.
Give a flinch, take a mile. I don't know. Is that give a pinch? Give an inch? Give an inch, take a mile. That makes much more sense than a pinch. And also, my favorite thing to say about anyone's dream, it's very flinchian. Yes. Those all courtesy of Blinky Heck. Yeah, I was recording here last Tuesday, emerged, and Molly Lambert and Polly Viganalan were hanging out in our waiting room because, you know, our studios are just a place that cool people hang out. I saw the Hollywood Handbook guys and Carl outside before. This is great.
LA's like this all the time. Exactly. The LA studios, the LA stooge. And I had a great conversation with Pallavi. And then at one point she was like, all right, I'm going to go into the studio. And she walked by me and she was like, God, I just had the urge to like do that and try and make you flinch to me. She's like, you just give an energy that I want to fake punch you and make you flinch. And I was like, God damn. You, if I may respectfully disagree, I don't give a flinching. I think she's a bully. Yeah. I think that's Pallavi's a bully. It's so cool though. It made me laugh. My thought also bullying you is that you strike me as the kind of guy that's like.
ready for any, like, you're the kind of guy that, like, gets into a room and is like, okay, no, we're on my exit, so all right, I've got a threat assessment. I do keep my head on the swivel. In a restaurant, are you in the corner? Oh, yeah. Actually, whenever Miles and I have a meal, we race for the seat that has the back to the door because you got to keep your head on the swivel. You got to see what's coming in. Will not get Tony Soprano'd. Will not. Although I feel like he looked up, he was ready for it. Yeah. They also say that that experience of the end of that show is what death, like, that way, you would die before you actually realized it.
Like that's how death would happen. Oh, like you mean getting shot? Getting shot. Yeah. Right. You wouldn't, you wouldn't even feel it. It would just be lights out. Right. My last thought would be like, oh, fuck, I missed it. Right.
Mama Mia. Mama Mia, that's the spicy meatball. Oh, you're doing your Tony Soprano impression. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The spiciest meatball, death. It's thrilled to be joined in our second seat. Many say it is the spiciest meatball. In our second seat, one of our very favorite guests, the hilarious and brilliant producer, TV writer, you know him from the Yozis Racist podcast, the new Starter Trek podcast. It's Andrew T. I didn't think of an AK, even though I had plenty of time to do it. I spent all that mental energy remembering how to park at the studio. Remembering to come in.
in the studio which i did not remember i was 20 minutes late that's okay i drove here screaming the whole time just going that's a good one yeah um no i was going to check the discord but then i realized i was on camera so i couldn't like discreetly check my phone. I know, yeah. This fucking sucks, man. I hate being alive. I hate being alive. I hate being alive. I hate being on, like we have these Instagram clips where I'm, where we're doing the podcast in person and I'm just like looking at my computer and I'm like, what the fuck is this? I brought my security blanket. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm not even reading anything. I'm just preferring not to make eye contact. I'm just watching TikTok on here. In the background. Andrew, wonderful to have you here. We're thrilled.
Blessed to be joined in our third seat by a stand-up comedian who's got a hilarious special called Milk Job that you should go check out. You know her from lady to lady, the Warped Tour. The founder of the comedy record label Burn This Records is Brandy Posey! Hey, hey! Good to be here. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, it's Warped Tour or Reset? Warped Tour is recent, yeah. It's back.
Fun, but difficult. I just, yeah, I just ended up on Warped Tour last year and this year and it's, it's like really fun, but it is, it's an exercise in ego death because you'll be doing a joke and 50 people will be having a great time and then Sublime will start. Yeah. And then 50 people will go, sorry. And they'll just leave and you're like, that's fine. That's fair. Also, I'd go with you too. Yeah, you should just go see what happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, because wireless mic, I would heckle Sublime from the back. But it's been really fun. Everyone's so nice and it's really cool seeing like...
Millennials are stoked to come out, but also they have alternative kids now, too. And that's giving me a lot of hope. Seeing a subculture thriving feels really good. Although, unfortunately, I do have to report Papa Roach is huge again. The kids love Papa Roach in the year 2026. It's probably fine. It was surprising. Yeah. I'll say this. I'm the age where I'm just glad I recognize a name of a band. Period. Okay, fair. I did see the work for when it was long because one of my friends was like...
We're going to Warped Tour. Do you want to come? And I looked at the lineup and I literally was like, I know less than 1% of any of the words. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you would have known? That's right. Top five Papas. Can we get to five Papas? We got John, Smurf, Roach. That's all I got. I got Beer Papa, the Japanese cream puff store. Okay, let's do it. Let's go with that. I was thinking Papa Pia. Papa Pia. Papa Don't Preach. Danny Aiello, of course. Yeah, yeah.
I think that's plenty. That's five. I think we got to five. Just like a little Italian boy saying papa. Papa, papa, papa. Don't steal at the bicycle. All right. We're going to get to know you, Brandy, a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're talking about the crumbles. Not delicious crumbled cookies.
The part of living in modern America where it seems like everything's kind of falling apart. Calling it the crumbles is very cute. It's cute, right? That's from the crumbles. That is from Cool Zone Media, which, by the way, just celebrated their fifth anniversary. It seemed like just yesterday. I was pretending to know what cool zone meant when they were like, we're going to call it cool. I was like, yeah, definitely. Google, Google. What does cool zone mean? Oh, man. But anyways, they call it the crumbles. And I think it's good because.
It reminds me of cookies and not poop, whereas in shitification kind of just makes me think about poop. Yeah, definitely. And it's also more broad and allows you to picture the entire nation. Also, shitification is like, oh, it's like uniformly bad. Yeah. It's actually crumbles is more accurate, too, because it's like, it's mostly bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the problem is some of it's not bad, actually. If it was all bad, we'd just like, okay, I'm aware of what's going on. Yeah, yeah. So we're going to talk about that in its many splendid forms, one of them being a new Google spam filter that you can get a VIP pass from.
So really no longer a spam filter. We'll talk about that. We will talk about the GOP going after DSA candidates and whether the Democrats are going to fight back. I don't know. Well, they're going to fight back against someone. Well, that remains to be seen too. Which direction that got its point it is. Not even that unclear. And NASA was recently forced to address a viral rumor that the Earth was going to lose gravity for seven seconds on August 12th. So, hell yeah. Twelve seconds, right? Seven seconds on August 12th. Oh, okay. Seven seconds. That would be fun as hell. Just like, whee! Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just give us a little taste. Just let us know. I'm not against that. There's a little taste in zero gravity. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Brandy, we do like to ask our guests. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I was reading Eartha Kitts Wikipedia the other day because I heard on a podcast. I didn't realize that she had had her career kind of derailed because she confronted Lady Bird Johnson in a luncheon about Vietnam. She was like a massive anti-war advocate.
And the CIA basically blacklisted her and made her an infomaniac in the eye of the public, and it kind of destroyed her career. And I didn't know that, and I was reading all about it, and I was like, damn, Earthquake rules. I always liked her, and I was like, I wonder what happened. And it also makes her casting in Ernest Scared Stupid even cooler. Ernest. Comrade Ernest. Comrade Ernest. Yeah. So that was a very interesting rabbit hole to go down that I had no idea about. They basically weren't cool in the 20th century unless the FBI was actively trying to fuck up your career, drive you crazy. Now they're just...
Yeah, micro-fucking up everyone's life. That's right. Yeah. Boring. I don't even know who's cool anymore. FBI hates everyone. What is something you think is underrated? Okay, so I like doing my underrated overrated together, and I think...
Parallel parking is underrated. I think pull-through parking is overrated. Parallel parking is underrated. Okay. So you like a little difficulty? I think the high of getting into a spot that you didn't know that you could get in far surpasses the high of a pull-through spot. There's no high. Like coming up to a spot, having the person in the shotgun, riding shotgun, be like, nope. I can't do that. Yeah. Or, yeah, you're in there.
Or in my case, it's making Austin Powers reference around here and then keep going. But you got in that spot. We're 30 minutes late for wherever we're going. But I told you. I think my general ability to parallel park well has been torched. It's the same way like AI crutches or whatever. Like the backup camera. Like I tried parking my friend's car without a backup camera recently and I was like.
I think I don't know how to do this. It turns out I don't know. I think I don't know. Do you have a system? Do you have like the mirror system? Yeah. Yeah. I use the mirrors for the most part. Yeah. I mean, I use a lot of rental cars on the road. So I still am used to just doing it in all sorts. I also learned to drive in Philly. So that was a real doggy dog. Throwing a deep battery at your car. That's all I know about Philly. I mean, honestly, yes. That's not all you need sometimes. But do you have the thing where you like once the front of your car gets to the mirror of the car you're backing up next to, then you cut the wheel? Is that the...
I don't know if that's universal. It's not even that... It's interesting. It's not even that conscious to me. It feels like... You can just tell you. Yeah. You must be... I'm a really good driver. I take a lot of pride in it. If I can get a big car into a tiny spot and there's like no room between me and the car front behind me, I'm just... I'll get out. I'll double beep it because I want everyone to look. Damn. All right. RDB. Yeah. Big Mack truck in that little garage. It feels good. It's a timely reference, right?
Guys, everybody, finally reference Wet Ass Pussy. We still listen to that song all the time. Yeah, it's still in the rotation. I remember the first time I saw one of those commercials for a car that parallel parked itself. I was so mad. Right. It's anti-human. Yeah, disgusting. Right. How dare you take my wins from me. Can I ask a question that maybe should disqualify me from driving a car? Is a pull-through spot just a spot you pull in or is it one that you pull...
Or is that like on the side of the road, but there's no cars on either side? Yeah, let's get into that because I also don't really know what a pull-through parking was. I'm the only dad on the show right now, apparently. It's when you pull into a parking lot and then you pull into a spot and then the spot in front of you is open. So you pull through to the second one. Oh, so that you're facing out. You're facing out. I see. So it's like you got to back in, but you didn't do the back in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So once again, it's cheating. It's cheating. It's a Stolen Valor situation. Also, it's like your trunk. Now you maybe have a car too close behind you if you have stuff in your trunk. Yeah. I don't like, people love a pull-through. And I'm always like, why? Right. It's dumb. Stolen Valor. Stolen Valor. It'd be like an easy
Finding a pull-through spot, but still going around and then backing in. And backing in. That would be your move. When I start wearing my phone on my hip. Taking photos exclusively with iPad. Yeah, exactly. It's the evolution. I don't need a phone. Just carrying like a 12 by 12. All right. Amazing. So now I know what pull-through parking is. I know not to do it when you're around. Yeah.
I mean, you can do what you want. Just don't be proud. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Avert your eyes to shame. Walk out like Charlie Brown. I'm better than that. We all know it. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some news. We'll be right back.
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And we're back. All right. All right. We're back. Great, great to have you. We're talking the crumbles. Again, a shout out to Cool Zone. Five years. Went by in a flash. But I feel like I'm just seeing this in a lot of the news stories we had for today's show. I'm seeing it in my personal life. Like I had a friend who's apartment hunting right now and was like, I am going to this apartment that I'm like 50-50 is a scam. Yeah. And that seems like it's a realer threat these days. Like, yeah. Then in like my 20s when I was apartment hunting, that wasn't like the rent.
was a scam. Yeah. But I was not worried that it was like a financial thing where the person was going to disappear. Like, sure. Yeah, and you're not playing apartment like application fees to a scam that you know you're probably not going to hear back from. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's a helplessness and like a resignation now that wasn't there the same way. Yeah, what's that all about? It's not good. It's not good. It seems bad. Yeah. Is it? Okay, here's my question.
because I feel like I've always been distrustful of shit. So I'm largely like, I don't know, but I guess I'm like, when am I? I assume because everyone does like I'm going to tip over into not being able to see what the scam is. Sure. Eventually. Yeah, that's what we all do. Yeah. So is there more of it? I guess I'm just like, there has to be more. I think there's more of it. So this is my, yeah, that is a good question. That is sort of a question underlying all this. Am I just like getting old and I'm like, God damn, the scams are getting good. Yeah. But it does feel like, so other examples that I have and then we can talk. Yeah.
Food recalls seem to be going off the charts. Now, is that the media hating on my boy RFK? Or is it that he's done a shitty job and gutted all of the regulatory departments? Yeah. We like diarrhea. There's been a spike in the amount of times we've gotten to say explosive diarrhea on this show and the number of times that mainstream media outlets, they still put it in quotes, which guys just own it. You're saying explosive diarrhea. You're getting a little pop off of saying explosive diarrhea. But the yeah. So there's that. There's also the fact that they like once I guess we had food recalls.
We didn't have this situation where, like, the food is recalled and everybody knows about it and it just, like, kind of keeps getting worse. Yeah. Which, like, there's, like, a new report that it's, like, cyclosporiasis cases are more than 15,000, according to the CDC. They're kind of keeping it quiet. They won't talk about it too much. Yeah, I feel like it used to be, like, once every once in a while, they'd be like, oh, shit, this is happening. And then it'd be a couple of years before you really heard something else. Yeah. It probably has to be, right? CDC is...
different than it used to be. And they can't deny shit like cyclospora anymore. They proudly gutted it. Whenever they took power, they were like, fuck this. There was a 12-person team who was worried about screw worms. Look at us now. There's a list of things that have been recalled. Frozen blueberries, iceberg lettuce, shell eggs, mixed berries, pistachio nut butter, green powder supplements, jalapeno, soup kits, salad dressing. It's like all the things. I can no longer keep track.
I mean, it's got to be, right, like a direct result of deregulation. Yes, I think that's right. Last time I went to the doctor, I remember specifically asking, I can't remember what it was about. I think it was like, do I need this vaccine or whatever. And I had to ask my doctor, like, is that the CDC recommendation or is that the California public health recommendation? Because I suspect they differ. And she was like, we're going by California. Okay. So it's like, I think that's like reasonable to just be like, yeah, the federal government is worse than it was. Yeah. It's just like, that's kind of the definition of the crumbles is like things that we used to take for granted as like invisibly working. Yeah, yeah. Or just like not.
You have to pay attention. They're no longer invisible. You have to pay attention and, like, kind of navigate things. Yeah, like things that you thought, okay, that is the thing I don't need to worry about. Oh, I have to worry about that. I had to worry about all this before. I didn't have to worry about that. Oh, I have to worry about this now, too. Okay, yeah. I mean, Republicans have basically switched, like, civics into a lab course rather than a lecture course. Right. You used to just learn about it. Now you have to feel it. Yeah, exactly. You got to be on that shit. Can I get in the control group, please? Yeah. I feel like, like, phone's no longer really working. Like, phone calls being mostly spam and texts being, like... Yeah.
25% spam text maybe at this point. I remember being so smug that I didn't get spam calls forever because my parents, their phone would get spam. They had a constantly landline still and I was like, no one's got this number. You must be doing something wrong. They probably were. They were probably clicking on links they shouldn't have been. Or their numbers got stolen. So it's just a matter of time. I think it is sort of like, but...
I will say phones and texts from numbers you don't know have gone so far to the other side that it is like now functionally a 0% chance they will be useful. So kind of, it's a little less, at least what I was interpreting this Crumbles thing of, it's just fully shit and fully and unambiguously shit. Like you don't have to worry about never answering a phone call. Whereas like to me, Crumbles is a little bit like, well, you still have to answer every one because one in five. Right, matters. Whatever, your pharmacy or your boss or whatever the fuck. Yeah, it's not a full collapse yet, it's a crumble. Yeah, this one is like a full collapse and it's clear. Even if your boss calls, you can just be like, I assumed it was spam and they have no choice to be like, that's reasonable. Sure. Well, the crumbles is hard too because it's like, still, when you're in the crumbles, you still have to pay your bills and your rent and stuff. When you get to collapse, then you're like, okay, I think so. We're good here? No, I think that's gone. The machete budget's the only one that's at that point. Exactly, so it's hard being in an in-between space and being like, I still gotta pay for gas, I can't just threaten. Yeah, we just pretend society might rebound. Yeah, yeah.
So a couple other examples. So Google has just announced a VIP spam filter. They didn't really announce it. They put it on their terms of service or a page that you could find if you went digging for it. But basically heading into the 2026 elections, Gmail users are going to be flooded with unwanted political spam because Google decided to create a VIP lane for campaigns where official campaigns basically can pay a certain amount of money to not be on the spam list. I'm sure it'll be the ones that I agree with. Yes. Which I had assumed was already happening on text message because of the amount of text messages they were getting through.
leading up to election day and then just like cut off after but i mean vaccine exemptions obviously like we just got we just hit 4.2 percent vaccine exemptions for u.s kindergartners which is up from 3.6 the previous year um what is the what is the the tipping point is like much low is the tipping point is like 10 percent unvaccinated or something like that where it's just like you might as well not yeah yeah yeah and that's what i'm always saying you might as well that's right that's right man so yeah i don't know there's part of me that's like also And this isn't something that I encounter on a day-to-day basis, but the story's coming out of the Navy right now. Oh, sure. Oh, man, yeah. Like the USS Lincoln. We talked about that earlier. And just as the Pentagon is being like, this is overblown and a media panic, a story comes out of a U.S. naval destroyer that they went four days without power, leaving sailors without toilets, air conditioning, galley service, and potable water for four days, which seems...
That seems like too many days to go. Famously, the Emperor does well when they antagonize the military. I feel like that's going to be fun. Well, I mean, I think that is also the other side of this is like the crumbles and shitification, etc. of it. Like...
like, the propaganda or whatever doesn't allow them to just acknowledge that it's happening. Right. Because, like, this is happening to your shit, too. Like, it's actually impeding the shit you want to get done. Like, you actually can't invade Iran. Right. Dog. Yeah, actually, that's not an option for you. Yeah, we don't have it. Yeah, we can't afford it. Well, then instead we have their own propaganda in our head of, like, no, we can do anything. Yeah. We support the troops and we can do anything. It's not. It's a child brain, guys. That seems like a system we're dealing with now where they, like...
are confused by their own lies. Yeah. So they're just constantly like, yeah, bullshit. Yeah. No one, no one's like, they've winked so much that they actually forgot what the truth is. And now it's like, yeah, well now reality, like missiles. Yeah. Like we can just count the missiles guys. They're not there. Like, do we, that is a question I have. Like sometimes I'm just like, oh, this could be like, I could see a future where this is like the.
like under Gorbachev when everything just like collapsed and like for a long time it was just like them believing their own lies and them just being like yeah but like we've gotten by on this for so long and then all at once it's just like everything falls apart. Once the first domino falls. Right. It's raining dominoes. You know? Yeah but that's the thing. One of them still has to fall. Right. Like none of them really have fallen but they will. I mean we're also at the stage of Mad King where like so many so much of the power structure is built on lies because you can only get promoted if you're buying a lie. Right. So now it's like oh yes it will just snap. Yes.
They snapped on that one. Which makes it hard as an American too, because on like a micro level, we all have some version of that going on in our head, right? Because if we truly believe that, and I feel this way, I'm just, every day I'm like, should I be buying seeds? Should I be, like how, how much should I, if it is like, that's it. Yeah. Seeds and machetes. I mean, I got a machete. I do, I got a machete already. I have a small knife. Yeah, yeah. I need to get my kids and machetes, I think. But it is like, there is some part of my American brain that's like, yeah, it'll be all right. I'm like, I gotta, it's hard not much to interrogate of that, you know? I, for what it's worth,
I feel like regardless, the thing that's more valuable than seeds is being really good friends with the hundred people that live around you. Well, yeah, of course. Because they got to protect your seeds. Well, yeah, definitely. I mean, yeah, but if I'm not going on which one of them is, you know? Yeah, yeah. I just, yeah, I feel like, yeah, I don't know. All the survivalist stuff, I'm just like, I know I ain't got it in me. So yeah, I hope people like jokes. Constantly having to apologize to my neighbors for...
keeping them up while burying gasoline in my backyard. I feel like they're, you gotta stop doing that. You're poisoning the earth. I bury gasoline loose in a container. It's where it came from and it's where it's going back. It's natural. Gasoline is natural. That's how you know it's not. I'm trying to make a dinosaur. Reverse. Reverse dinosaur. You put pressure on that shit. Thank you. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about some other bullshit. We'll be right back.
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And we're back. And a couple stories about Michigan candidate Abdul El-Sayed, who whooped the ass of Chuck Schumer's chosen candidate in the Democratic primary. Now there's a lot of stories about, well, maybe the Democrats could win without Michigan. Maybe they could win back control of the Senate without Michigan. A lot of vote blue no matter who, unless it's a left-wing candidate energy going around. In the mainstream media, I do feel like they're trying to make it seem like the party is even more divided than it already is.
One story that the right is pushing are these Islamophobic attacks on El-Sayed about how he oversaw an animal slaughterhouse and was responsible for the deaths of 4,000 puppies and kittens, which the National Republican Senatorial Committee even started selling Dogs Against Abdul merch. Seemingly just for AI-generated dogs, based on the ad, the dogs are just completely AI. It's reminiscent of that Spencer Pratt billboard we had out here that was like, dogs love Spencer. They have one move. Yeah. What do people like? Dogs. Let's use that to lie. Which is funny because how many of our candidates had dogs on the roofs of their cars, Mitt Romney? Oh, sure. Or like, Christine, no, murdered a puppy yet. That's the thing. They've chosen a thing that they're so bad on. Yeah, exactly. I mean, obviously, there was a lot of racism around dogs in the 2024 election. Yeah. This is just more mask off racism. And also...
So these headlines, they're like linked to a story that has this incendiary headline about how he oversaw the death of 4,000 puppies. And then like you read the text of the article and he actually took over, like immediately after that crisis was happening, he took over animal control. Like before it was overseen by, and you're not going to believe this, the police. You're not going to believe they weren't great with dogs. Historically great. Yeah.
A couple German shepherds did really well. That's right. Everything else, though, they love shooting them. And when they were in charge of Detroit's animal control, there were apparently thousands of dogs being put down. Al-Sayed's government took over and things improved. And it says that in the text of the article with the headline that's like, this guy's a dog killer. Watch out for Abdul the dog killer. I would say for what it's worth, and this might be cold comfort, I actually don't think this shit sways that many people. However, I do think a lot of, especially white Michigan Democrats.
we're secretly never going to vote for a brown guy anyway. So I am saying it's, you know, those things are institutionally tough, but they're just wrong. And, you know, he's still, you know, it's still just about the enthusiasm of actual voters who are not awful. If that helps. I'm just like, yeah, this racist shit is just like finds its ceiling really quickly. Yes. Yeah. It does also highlight, though, the fact that the Democrats are so bad at just doing like the very, because the reason they've made this story up is because it's like a populist thing that you can do. People love dogs. And like the Republicans are like really bad.
You could just use the truth of the situation and be like, you could point out the Kristi Noem thing, point out that with Trump's mass deportations that they were leaving a bunch of animals homeless that then had to be put down. There's so many examples. And also, the thing that really ails the country in a lot of cases is the Supreme Court ruling on things to make it so the corporations can do whatever the fuck they want. The 2024 Supreme Court ruling that shielded hedge fund manager and right-wing talk show host George Jarkessi. from SEC fines he received for allegedly defrauding investors. The Supreme Court was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That guy's very rich. You guys need to slow your roll. And that ruling makes it impossible to prosecute puppy mills, essentially. And so like, these are just like, it's just like if the Republicans had something like that to exploit, they would exploit it. But the Democratic Party sucks so bad. I will say, I mean, for what it's worth, it's like, who knows what's going to happen. But it does seem like Al-Sayed at least has the political.
chops to say like, okay, let's talk about puppy mills and then like go into Supreme Court. Whereas like your generic, you know, capital D Democrat centrist would be like, oh, actually, and then just like, yeah, fuck it up in some way. Fuck it up. So I don't think he's actually anything. We have a chance. These people have a chance. Yes. We as America and Chuck Schumer. Yeah. It's just, it hopefully lies in that, which is like.
you know, it does seem like Abdulaziz is a better campaigner than the generic Democrat has been for decades now. Yeah. And he like understands like, oh, that's the attack. Like if I, a lot of this stuff always gets, breaks down too if you can just speak like a person to it directly and go, no, that's what this is actually. Like if you do that. Yeah, you can just like hear it immediately. Yeah. Or he's like, oh, you're a person who's like saying things that have, you're not like doing a weird like math in your brain about the things that are coming out of your mouth. Yeah, there's not like a bunch of focus groups that you're like running through in your brain. Like he knows what he wants to say and he's, you know.
I mean, very good at it. So I believe in his ability to combat it and maybe turn it on him in some way. Yeah. We'll see. I do feel like we're starting to see who the math and the brain candidate is going to be for the mainstream Democratic Party for president. I feel like...
Ossoff is like their guy. He's like rising in polls while Newsom and Harris are like kind of going down. I guess ultimately, thank God. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like, if it's Ossoff versus AOC for the nomination, that's probably better than other alternatives. Any alternative we have in a long time. I just personally can't let Gavin.
I just need him to be humbled and disappointed at every turn in a personal way. I know. I really suspect that his support is going to completely evaporate the second that, like, the primaries start and people have to vote for him. Yeah, I mean, Clavicular's not going to stump for him. Yeah, I know. He's giving Clavicular. Yeah, yeah. Maybe don't have so many Nazis on your podcast if you want to be a Democrat. I'm just trying to change your voice to make it completely differently.
I have scrolled that guest feed at people so many times in public that have tried to make a case for him. I'm just like, Steve fan, Charlie Kirk just going through the list. Just like the worst. I love Rogan, man. What can I say? He loved Rogan. He loved Rogan. And you know Rogan. Yeah. So are we that different after all? Turns out we are. I have gotten shit on our show for talking shit about Joe Rogan. People are like, dude, he does good research. I mean, this is a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really wild how pervasive he is because I'll have people come up to me after a comedy show that are Lady Lady fans and they'll be like...
Yeah, I was like, oh, what else do you listen to? They're like, oh, you know, Rogan, and I'm like, how? How? I feel like if you don't think about it or understand, Rogan represents the generic idea of stand-up comedy to you. Sure. I think it's clearly what's happening. It's a horrible comic. Yeah. I'm going to have to differ with you on that one. I mean, I used to really, really enjoy MMA, and I was just like, if it was just an MMA podcast, he clearly knows what he's talking about on that front. Yeah, just in terms of who's better at fighting. Yeah. But it's just like, and as long as he doesn't have to talk about...
whether it's based on the shape of their skulls or whatever. He's fine enough, I genuinely think. There's always that bleed, though. I know. There's always that, like, God. It happens quickly. I just tried to picture a universe where Johnny Knoxville was the host of Fear Factor the whole time. Yeah. It's a better world. Yeah. See, or Johnny Knoxville turns into a right-wing goon. That's the thing that you never know. Yeah. I'm just saying, maybe it's the Fear Factor that did it. Yeah. You think Fear Factor was the cause? Well, we're going to see. We're going to see what happens. That's the thing. It's one way or the other. All right. Let's talk about what we'll...
we've all been thinking since the start of this, which is, is gravity going to turn off for seven seconds? There's a rumor spread online that intersecting gravitational waves from colliding black holes would cause gravity to shut off at exactly 4.33 UTC or 10.33 a.m. Eastern time. So mark your calendar, except it already passed and it didn't happen. But they claimed that people could be thrown into the air, which, yeah, I guess it's a fun thought experiment. That is, I think, what a lot of conspiracy theories are, is like our version of fiction. Of what would happen if...
Like that would be fucking fun. Like that's a good movie premise. Like we just found out gravity is going to turn off for seven seconds on this date in August. Right. What do we do as a similar, like how do we prepare for that? That's like fun. Like, and then like go through the science, like really take it seriously. Like that's. And it's great. It's an amount of time. It's like a doomsday cult's not going to kill themselves over it. You can maybe get a couple of like foiled heists of some kind for, I got a seven second window to launch myself and grab a diamond or something. Like that's fun. That is fun. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm just going to say this, and not just because I started doing a Star Trek podcast where I'm learning about Star Trek. This feels like the kind of shit that would be in Star Trek. Oh, yeah. A planet where, I mean, yeah, like a planet where gravity turns off for seven seconds a day. It was kind of like an Andor plot, right? Wasn't there something about that planet they were on in season one of Andor? Some shit happened. I don't remember. There's a window for something to go down. Oh, the latest Alien movie has a gravity generating thing where it suddenly will turn off. Yeah. By far the best part of that movie was when gravity would turn off and it would just be like, whoop, we threw a little. I think it was the soup in the first scene.
This is my favorite part. I remember the soup. Oh, yeah. I don't really remember. I think eating a ball of liquid is what I would do for the seven seconds. Because I always look at the coolest part on every astronaut in space movie. I'd be like, I want to chomp on those. I will just say, not to be a physics pedant, but they mean we'll be in free fall, not gravity will shut off. Because if gravity shuts off, obviously all your cells just, you know, all your molecules just float randomly. Wait, what?
Gravity is holding us together? Okay, I see. Gravity can shut off. It's the thing that's holding us together because there's fundamental forces. Gravity shutting off means lots of other shit. But they just mean local gravity is lessened. Just the version in my brain. Is that the nuclear force? I don't know. Don't let me. I think for seven seconds my body just went...
It honestly feels so good. What an amazing stretch. It's just a little down. I'm talking about the version of physics from sci-fi movies that I was raised on. When you're on a spaceship, you're going up, the sky's blue, the sky's blue. You hit a point. There's a clearly defined line where it turns into night sky. And then all of a sudden, the pen in front of you starts floating in 2001. I think I would want to be near a bird.
for the seven seconds because first of all look at fuck you look at me now yeah yeah look who can fly but also have you ever seen the footage they have like this is just something that nasa did one time is they took birds into zero gravity and they looked so stupid they're like what's going on That's amazing. Isn't that great? They just keep putting animals in zero gravity and the same thing happens every single time, which is they're just like, look stupid as hell. They just like don't know what to do. That's like the very specific kind of edge lord I want my taxes going for. Absolutely. Fuck birds. Yeah. Fuck all birds. Even without, even with this version, right? Life on Earth ends with seven seconds of zero gravity, right? Like the ocean. Whatever happens to the ocean is catastrophic to life. Is there like enough inertia keeping it there?
I don't know. I don't know, yeah. That's the question. I think if the spin of the Earth continues, the inertia, the ocean just throws the ocean into space. I believe. I'm just saying, stuff like this is the type of thing you should be able to bet against on Calci because there's no downside. You either win your bet or life on Earth ends. That's true. So who cares? Yeah, you're working those markets. Yeah. So the alleged leaked NASA document, see if you guys can poke any holes in this, called Project Anchor.
is the supposed plan costing $89 billion that involved secret bunkers for essential people and a diverse group to repopulate the Earth in case of disaster. That's where they lost me. It was the diverse group. Also, NASA would not be in charge. NASA would present this to the wrong person, and the billionaires have such class solidarity that they just immediately euthanize everyone at NASA, take over the planning, and it would be...
I think people would be shocked by the number of extremely wealthy people who are eagerly planning a Dr. Strangelove repopulation on the planet. Yeah, they're already preparing for this. I love, because it's also just like, I don't know, man, I just feel like... one hand over the oxygen vent in your little bunker. I know. I just can't wait for like 10 ounces of mud. That's why I talk about killing the pilot who flies you there. That's like the number one fun party debate in Silicon Valley is like, okay, so we all have our survivalist bunkers. When the pilot flies you there, obviously you've told the pilot they can go back and fly and pick up their family. We're not going to do that. Do you keep them there and keep them alive as a pet? Or do you just...
The thing that's so funny about these people is they've convinced themselves they're so much smarter than everyone else that they think no one else can have the same fucking like D minus level mind game. Like, yeah, man, you are going to get killed by your head of security in the first 10 minutes. That is what's going to happen. A person with a skill is going to take you out. If that doesn't happen, you will die of starvation in one month. 100% those are the two choices. You don't want to do anything.
contraption will get jammed and you'll be like, oh, I shouldn't have killed that person. Oh, you don't have access to the servers that say the number that your net worth is? Right. Looks like you're pretty fucked. Right. There's a great book called Survival of the Richest, Escape Fantasies of Tech Billionaires by Douglas Rushkoff. Yeah, we had one. Oh, yeah. He's the one who told me because he is just, you know, a really smart tech writer who, you know, at a certain point started getting invited to these tech billionaire conferences. Yeah. And he said, invariably, the conversation would just turn to them being like, all right, so.
But seriously, like, how do we game this out so that we, like, kill the right people? Like, yeah. Yeah, it's like, dog collars on my security? And I'm like, try. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you going to be the one that puts the dog collar on your head of security? It is just, like, all the way down. It's like, oh, okay, I'll just hold this person hostage. Well, then, the person that holds that person hostage, I need to hold them hostage. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. But think about it for one second. I will also say, though, because this is in Atlas Shrugged. Like, the little... Do you have any shutting off? Yeah. No, sorry. The, like, little billionaire society. But isn't it, like, the opposite?
No, they, well, the outside world, but they have their little like gulch, gulch, whatever the fuck, where all the like, like, you know, like the, I forget what they call it, makers or whatever the fuck live. And they gloss over like, oh, and everyone just cleans their toilets and like whatever so quickly that it's like, sure, dog, sure. All you fucking libertarian assholes are happy doing like communism. Like everyone takes a shot at every job. Get the fuck out of here. The premise of Atlas Shrugged is that the billionaires...
are underappreciated by society. And so they leave, and society's like, oh no! You realize how much better? Could we just try that? Could we just convince them to seed the billionaires with one class trader who's just like, we should do an Atlas Shrug to guys. Everybody's being so mean to us. Look at this. Let's go do an Atlas Shrug. Even the small version, it's like, they could all move to wherever the fuck in Texas, Starbase, Texas. They don't.
They all left Manhattan to Billionaire Ghost Town. Dami's there. It's just like, guess what? They were already not paying taxes there. Yeah. Fucking, yeah. I don't know. Like, Atlas Shrugged is like the cop strike threat fan fiction. Right. Oh, your shit really fell apart. It's like, you know what?
Call. Let's see. Let's go. Let's see what happens. Yeah. Anyways, my main takeaway from this story is Michael Bay, get to work. Yeah. Gravity eclipse. I think it's just people being like, wow, an eclipse made the light go away. Yeah, yeah. What if eclipse made gravity go away? I actually, I want to give it to Roland Emmerich because Moonfall is already kind of like dabbling in this territory. Yeah, what happens to gravity in Moonfall? Is it like a little stupid? The moon is a celestial structure. It's actually a spaceship that was built by humans to escape.
a thing a millennial ago, and we're actually all aliens. We're aliens. We're aliens, yeah. We came from a celestial structure called the moon. We're the only one to have existed. And Elon Musk is mentioned several times. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. As in, like, he's smart and he's a genius. Yeah, I mean, even in those, like, Expanse books that are mostly right, there's like a, like, oh, Elon Musk figured this thing out back in the, like, the USS Elon Musk is out there. Yeah. Which, by the way, that probably will exist, but it will be plain to Epstein Island, too. Yeah.
Yep. Yep. Watchmen fall. Look at the rules. It's so stupid. What do we think Grand Theft Auto? Like, do you think Grand Theft Auto is going to have any, like, I was talking about this on yesterday's trending episode, like rich billionaire, like take out Elon Musk type things that you think they'll like play to the populace a little bit or like have like a...
cabal of pedophile billionaires that like are you know like threaded throughout i think the reason that stuff i think works is like no billionaire has a self-awareness to be like that's me yeah they'll be like totally get them get his ass those are clearly and the other problem is that you know the attendees to like an epstein island are across the board yeah so it's like you can just do that and they'll be like that's soros and clinton or like that's musk and trump and it's like no one has any problem like putting what they want onto it yeah well that's coming it's coming um brandy Such a pleasure having you on the podcast. Be here in person. Yeah, this rules. Where can people find you, follow you, see you, hear you, all that good stuff? Yeah, I'm at Brandazzle on Instagram. Brandazzle is here on TikTok. My podcast is called Lady to Lady every Wednesday for the last 14 years. We just had our 700 episode. We have French Stuart on every 100 episodes, so we do a very silly thing with him. This time we all painted each other and then showed up to each other at the end.
Some of us have better talents than others. Big, great watch. I run a record label called Burn This Records. It's a comedy record label. It's working with leftist middle class comedians all over the country, just trying to put all of us that aren't pieces of shit under some kind of a banner together. I have a special called Milk Job that you can find on YouTube. You guys have been such a huge help in monetizing the Burn This Records YouTube channel. We're almost there. Here's an ask for you. If you watched already, I appreciate you. If you haven't...
watch it now, but maybe also watch it on mute a couple of times. I'm like, I am like 600 hours. I'm so close. Send it to people, right? Please send it to people. From their interface. Yeah, like that would mean a ton. Like I'm very proud of it and you are supporting like trying to create an independent space in comedy where it's been shrinking more and more and getting more and more corporatized. So like it would be a huge help if you guys did that. Thank you. Go check it out. Or, you know.
Yeah. Re-check it out. Re-check it out. Watch it. Send it to some people. I'm really proud of it. You know whose fans do that? Taylor Swift. Yes. And she really needs all the help she can do. Yeah. The Taylor Swift comedy is what I have been called by no one. Many people say that. Many are saying it. Thank you. Yeah. Do that for me. Also, if you are in Orlando for Warped Tour or if you're in Orlando and you want to come, I probably have passes. Hit me up. Interesting. What do you think of Orlando? We were just talking about that like four quadrant livability, affordability. Did you see that over the weekend? There was like a big thing that was like the most livable and affordable cities in the world and bottom right.
not livable, not affordable, were like New York, LA, Chicago, London. Diversity was not one of the good things. Orlando was higher than many of the great cities. As it should be. I would not want to live there full time, but they do have more building shaped oranges than we do. And that is pretty fun. That was actually one of the first things that they accounted for in the index. Like a building shaped like a thing. Amazing. Is there a work of media you've been enjoying?
Yeah, actually, I'm reading a book right now called Chesapeake by James Michener. It's really old. It's been around since the 70s. But James Michener is this guy that kind of does these, like, historical, like, take an area and then follow it from, like, its inception up until, well, until he writes the book, basically. And this one follows, like, the area of, like, Chesapeake, Maryland, which is, like, on the Bay, which is where I'm from. And it kind of starts from, like, the Chop Tank Indians all through 1978, basically, which is, like, when he published the book. And he follows, like, four or five different families and, like, the way they intersect and, like, the, just, like, it shows, like, how that part of the country was colonized, basically, and, like, how families, like, interacted and, like.
it's really interesting, I think, to look at, like, a specific area, because I think sometimes we can get so caught in, like, the not making it personal, like, how all that stuff happens, and watching away, like, four or five families, like, completely, like, change the landscape of everything forever is, like, really interesting. And he's a really good writer, so, you know, big recommend for that. He's got a ton of, a ton of books about all sorts of different parts of the country and world. Yeah. There you go. That sounds great. Very smart media recommendation. Andrew, where can people find you? There, where can media you've been enjoying? Oh, man. Starter Track. Starter Track is the main podcast now. It's on YouTube. It is fun.
It's where the old Joseph's racist feed was. So just go there. Keep looking at it. I just finished a book called The Trees by Percival Everett. It's pretty old. It's really, I did not realize it was going to be so, it's like, I think I genuinely start to finish, read it in like four or five hours. It reads like very cinematically. It's sort of like a supernatural, not murder mystery exactly, but it's very, it's very good. I'm trying to figure out. It's basically like, it seems like the potentially ghosts or something like that of victims of lynching.
have are coming back to kill people um and i guess i won't really spoil it i'll be honest i don't totally i finished it i don't totally know exactly what happened at the end it's very it's very um nor should you pretty weird yeah no it's genuinely a very very very great book but yeah it's like tv so if you're one of those people like yeah whose brain has been fried i was like oh so breezy to read i'm glad it's not the happening where it's like the trees are killing no no it's nothing like that yeah yeah amazing it's good it's it's a it's a genuinely good book that reads uh yeah i think that's what it is it's like literary fiction that reads like a page turner in a way that's like really great Thanks, mate.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore Brian, Blue Sky, Jack will be the number one. Instagram, Jack underscore O underscore Brian. Work in media I've been enjoying. You guys recommended books, so I'm going to recommend a tweet. Black Ocean tweeted, you're born, you watch pants go from baggy to skinny, back to baggy every 10 years, you die. I think that's a novel in and of itself. No, that's also a piece of literature. Absolutely. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it, and there at the bottom you will find the footnote, which is where we link off to the information.
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