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EPISODE · Jun 11, 2026 · 47 MIN

The AI sales agent that is helping Indonesians get mortgages, with Ilya Kravtsov (Pillar Lab)

from How to Lend Money to Strangers

Pillar is a vertical AI platform built for financial institutions, deploying product-aware AI sales agents that qualify leads, recommend the right financial products, and drive applications at scale - helping banks, lenders, and fintechs get more Indonesians into homes.We recorded this episode just as they were about to rebrand, so while we spoke about Ringkas, you'll now find everything you need to know over at https://pillarlab.ai/Ilya is on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilya-kravtsov-/As is Pillar at https://www.linkedin.com/company/pillarlab/I'm on LinkedIn, too, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/And if you want to get a sneak peek at some of what I'm working on, my website is currently being refreshed (even as some of the projects it mentions lag behind): https://www.brendanlegrange.com/Other friends of the show include:https://www.ogmara.com/ (customised risk management and analytic consulting)https://www.ontap.co.za/pages/hoedspruit-store-details (for all your Hoedspruit-based bathroom needs)https://flatwhiteorfoff.com/ (ask for anything other than a flat white, the answer is in the name)https://www.joinhumoni.com/ (helping international students find accommodation, work, and financial services on day one)https://www.haboomoney.com/ (making collections personalised, flexible and intelligent)https://beetlesense.ai (AI-powered day one pest detection for forestry)And since you like podcasts, I also co-create HAIghtened Senses with Christo van Zyl, which looks at the intersection between human senses and technology (and this week, flying cars)Keep well, BrendanThis is an interview I set up while at Money20/20 Asia, but they have shows around the world. If you want to make similar connections, you can get tickets at https://www.money2020.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Pillar is a vertical AI platform built for financial institutions, deploying product-aware AI sales agents that qualify leads, recommend the right financial products, and drive applications at scale - helping banks, lenders, and fintechs get more Indonesians into homes.We recorded this episode just as they were about to rebrand, so while we spoke about Ringkas, you'll now find everything you need to know over at https://pillarlab.ai/Ilya is on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilya-kravtsov-/As is Pillar at https://www.linkedin.com/company/pillarlab/I'm on LinkedIn, too, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/And if you want to get a sneak peek at some of what I'm working on, my website is currently being refreshed (even as some of the projects it mentions lag behind): https://www.brendanlegrange.com/Other friends of the show include:https://www.ogmara.com/ (customised risk management and analytic consulting)https://www.ontap.co.za/pages/hoedspruit-store-details (for all your Hoedspruit-based bathroom needs)https://flatwhiteorfoff.com/ (ask for anything other than a flat white, the answer is in the name)https://www.joinhumoni.com/ (helping international students find accommodation, work, and financial services on day one)https://www.haboomoney.com/ (making collections personalised, flexible and intelligent)https://beetlesense.ai (AI-powered day one pest detection for forestry)And since you like podcasts, I also co-create HAIghtened Senses with Christo van Zyl, which looks at the intersection between human senses and technology (and this week, flying cars)Keep well, BrendanThis is an interview I set up while at Money20/20 Asia, but they have shows around the world. If you want to make similar connections, you can get tickets at https://www.money2020.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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