EPISODE · Feb 24, 2026 · 1H 8M
The AI Tsunami is Here & Society Isn't Ready | Dario Amodei x Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF
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I sat down with Dario Amodei in Bangalore. He built Claude, but he started as a biologist looking for a tool to cure disease. Today, he's at the helm of an AI revolution that he compares to a tsunami society is actively ignoring. We got into the heavy stuff: why Anthropic secretly withheld a working model before ChatGPT existed, whether AI is on the verge of consciousness, and if outsourcing our thinking is going to make humans measurably stupider. Dario makes the case that coding is a dying skill, critical thinking is our last real edge, and the absurd concentration of power in AI right now is a massive problem—even though he’s one of the people holding it.#nikhilkamath Co founder of Zerodha and GruhasHost of “WTF is” and “People By WTF” PodcastTwitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/#DarioamodeiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dario-amodei/X: https://x.com/DarioAmodeiInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/dario.amodei/Watch “WTF is” Podcast on Spotifyhttps://tinyurl.com/4nsm4eznWatch “People By WTF” Podcast on Spotifyhttps://tinyurl.com/yme92c59Watch “WTF Online” on Spotifyhttps://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline #claude #claudeindia #podcast #anthropic #anthropicclaude #anthropicai #ai #aivideo #claudeTimestamps:00:00 Introduction06:13 Scaling laws explained simply13:27 Trust, humility, and corporate motives22:44 Using Claude personally, AI knowing you31:03 Rich people criticizing their own system37:05 India's role and IT partnerships44:15 Will AI surpass humans at everything50:17 Career advice for young Indians56:38 Open source vs closed AI models1:02:40 Biotech as the next big bet
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I sat down with Dario Amodei in Bangalore. He built Claude, but he started as a biologist looking for a tool to cure disease. Today, he's at the helm of an AI revolution that he compares to a tsunami society is actively ignoring. We got into the heavy stuff: why Anthropic secretly withheld a working model before ChatGPT existed, whether AI is on the verge of consciousness, and if outsourcing our thinking is going to make humans measurably stupider. Dario makes the case that coding is a dying skill, critical thinking is our last real edge, and the absurd concentration of power in AI right now is a massive problem—even though he’s one of the people holding it.#nikhilkamath Co founder of Zerodha and GruhasHost of “WTF is” and “People By WTF” PodcastTwitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/#DarioamodeiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dario-amodei/X: https://x.com/DarioAmodeiInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/dario.amodei/Watch “WTF is” Podcast on Spotifyhttps://tinyurl.com/4nsm4eznWatch “People By WTF” Podcast on Spotifyhttps://tinyurl.com/yme92c59Watch “WTF Online” on Spotifyhttps://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline #claude #claudeindia #podcast #anthropic #anthropicclaude #anthropicai #ai #aivideo #claudeTimestamps:00:00 Introduction06:13 Scaling laws explained simply13:27 Trust, humility, and corporate motives22:44 Using Claude personally, AI knowing you31:03 Rich people criticizing their own system37:05 India's role and IT partnerships44:15 Will AI surpass humans at everything50:17 Career advice for young Indians56:38 Open source vs closed AI models1:02:40 Biotech as the next big bet
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