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Mar 27, 2026 1 hr 17 min

The Art Life

from Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... Hosted by Dean and Phil and Jon Lawlor

For the past several years, Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been getting together almost weekly to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while also learning how to live more artfully. Now, Chillpak Hollywood Presents … “The Art Life” as a regular podcast! This week’s topics include … *The new art commissions Dean has received and how painting sites he has not physically visited differs from everything he has ever done *Phil’s recent stories of travel to Washington D.C., the stress of flying for the first time since his wife’s cancer treatments began, and the celebrities he encountered along the way *The niche distribution pattern for faith-based movies, and how niche programming going all the way back to early 1990s has had some unintended consequences *A major debate surrounding the movie Field of Dreams, which naturally evolves into a discussion of … Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (“What does God need with a starship?”) *The importance of absurdism in the comedy of Monty Python *The many ways “joy is the revolution” Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... is a listener-supported joint. To receive new shows and support our work, please consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deanandphil.substack.com/subscribe

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