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Jan 9, 2026 1 hr 13 min

The Art Life

from Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... Hosted by Dean and Phil and Jon Lawlor

For the past several years, Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been getting together almost weekly to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while also learning how to live more artfully. Now, Chillpak Hollywood Presents “The Art Life” as a regular podcast! This week, Jon discusses getting waylaid by computer problems AND sewer line problems before more artistic subjects get discussed, namely: resonant themes in Richard Linklater’s Nouvelle Vague, the series of art works Dean is currently undertaking, the importance of deadlines, and how the way Phil builds itineraries for his travels mirrors exactly how he plans each day of shooting on set. All that plus Picasso, Kubrick, “Pluribus” and more! Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... is a listener-supported publication. To receive new shows and support our work, please become a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deanandphil.substack.com/subscribe

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