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Dec 21, 2025 56 min

The Art Life

from Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... Hosted by Dean and Phil

For the past several years, Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been getting together almost weekly to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while also learning how to live more artfully. Now, Chillpak Hollywood Presents “The Art Life” as a regular podcast! On this episode, the gentlemen discuss the big stage show Phil hosted last week, the job of a show host, the way energy varies from venue to venue and how the concepts of energy and intimacy can be taken into account while designing and constructing a venue. The concept of culture as being “downstream” from politics also gets discussed and the question of whether or not we may be at a much-needed “tipping point” gets debated. Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... is a listener-supported publication. To receive new shows and support our work, please become a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deanandphil.substack.com/subscribe

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