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Sep 9, 2026 58 min

The Art Life

from Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... Hosted by Dean and Phil

Dean Haglund was literally about to pack for a trip to Stockholm (and a much-needed vacation) when he got together with Jon Lawlor and Phil Leirness via Zoom to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while also learning how to live more artfully. That is why we call this podcast “The Art Life”. This week’s topics include: *Phil’s ideas for his proposed Yes, And … documentary *More on the objects that the gentlemen think probably define them, including in-depth stories about watches and clocks, boots, coffee, sketchbooks and diaries *The importance of Pub Life *Embracing fear in both conversation and public speaking *Langly’s look on “The X-Files” and “The Lone Gunmen” *Wabi-sabi Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... is a listener-supported joint. To receive new shows and support our work, please become a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deanandphil.substack.com/subscribe

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