The Art Life

For the past several years, Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been getting together almost weekly to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while also learning how to live more artfully. Now, Chillpak Hollywood Presents … “The Art Life” as a regular podcast! This week’s show runs the gamut from the business of movie trailers to the personal as the gentlemen reveal their all-time favorite classes and Jon reveals which of his songs came from despair.Other topics explored on this episode include …*Boots Riley’s I Love Boosters *The Sheep Detectives*Why the USA always seems to be in the doldrums whenever a major anniversary of its existence comes around*Which America250 celebrations Phil is looking forward to attending in Charleston, South Carolina, and which ones Jon might attend in New Jersey*Two cocktails that might well be battling for the title of THE Cocktail of Summer 2026Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... is a listener-supported joint. To receive new shows and support our work, please consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deanandphil.substack.com/subscribe