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Aug 6, 2026 1 hr 12 min

The Art Life

from Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... Hosted by Dean and Phil

Be warned, when you hear Phil Leirness say, “This is clearly the worst podcast we have ever been a part of,” you know it’s probably an unusual show. Of course, Dean Haglund responds by saying, “I can hardly wait for us to start recording.” For the past several years, Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been getting together almost weekly to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while also learning how to live more artfully. Now, Chillpak Hollywood Presents … “The Art Life” as a regular podcast! This week’s topics include: *Dean’s birthday celebrations *How AI suggested Dean and Phil commemorate the 1,000th episode of “Chillpak Hollywood Hour” *Why AI doesn’t have a favorite color, but if it did, why it would be dark blue *More on Phil’s 40th high school reunion ritual, Jon’s ritual of exploring flavor, and Dean’s exploration of earth, wind, air and fire through ritual *Dean’s exploration of “the insanity of green” through art *The role music plays in great comedy movies *The great comedy Jon must watch before his forthcoming trip to Scotland Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... is a listener-supported joint. To receive new shows and support our work, come on in for the big win and become a free or paid subscriber! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deanandphil.substack.com/subscribe

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