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Feb 8, 2026 1 hr

The Art Life

from Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... Hosted by Dean and Phil and Jon Lawlor

If you have yet to listen to this week’s “Celebrity Deaths”, you may want to do so, as certain topics covered on this new installment of “The Art Life” relate back to that episode’s remembrances of controversial “Dilbert” creator Scott Adams, and the Grateful Dead’s Bob Weir … For the past several years, Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been getting together almost weekly to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while also learning how to live more artfully. Now, Chillpak Hollywood Presents … “The Art Life” as a regular podcast! This week’s topics include … *The Washington Post and the bizarre strategy of trying to make the business more viable by greatly diminishing the product *Live storytelling as an act of spontaneous writing *Whether painting fulfills Dean’s creative impulse to be funny *When Jon first had the impulse to write music and how he goes about doing so now that his usual methods are not available to him *How to provide audiences, especially younger audiences, the context they need to understand and appreciate a movie (especially a movie from another country, like The Secret Agent) Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... is a listener-supported publication. To receive new shows and support our work, please consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deanandphil.substack.com/subscribe

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