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Jan 2, 2026 1 hr 6 min

The Art Life

from Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... Hosted by Dean and Phil and Jon Lawlor

For the past several years, Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been getting together almost weekly to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while also learning how to live more artfully. Now, Chillpak Hollywood Presents “The Art Life” as a regular podcast! The gentlemen get the new year underway by discussing what they are proud to have accomplished in 2025 and what they are looking forward to accomplishing in 2026. A few intentions get thrown in for good measure. There is detailed analysis of the “attention economy”, and what it means for art and artists. The concept of “exposition as the enemy of art” gets discussed, as does architecture as the conjunction of art and science. Happy New Year, everybody! Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... is a listener-supported publication. To receive new shows and support our work, please consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deanandphil.substack.com/subscribe

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