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Jul 15, 2026 1 hr 4 min

The Art Life

from Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... Hosted by Dean and Phil

For the past several years, Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been getting together almost weekly to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while also learning how to live more artfully. Now, Chillpak Hollywood Presents … “The Art Life” as a regular podcast! This week’s topics include: *An appearance a loyal listener made on the Maxim EQ podcast discussing the adage “Growth doesn’t erase difficulty, it reframes it”. *The importance of tension in comedy *The visual styles and approaches of some of the all time greatest comedy movies *Desperation as a theme common to so many great comedy movies In addition, Dean and Jon provide updates on their latest artistic endeavors. Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... is a listener-supported joint. To receive new shows and support our work, please consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deanandphil.substack.com/subscribe

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