The Art Life
from Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... Hosted by Dean and Phil
For a few years now, good friends Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been meeting via Zoom to hold each other’s feet to the fire in their shared desires to create art that is filled with life while also endeavoring to live life more artfully. Near the end of 2025, we started making large sections of these meetings available in podcast form, and we call that podcast “The Art Life”. Welcome! On this week’s installment … *Why Dean feels “out of balance” and unable to complete canvasses or commissions *Dean’s relationship to his art in Birmingham, Michigan, vs. his previous homes in Sydney, Australia, and Downtown L.A. *The importance of good weather and the value of being surrounded by talent *Whether anything good ever came from stress and worry *Questions that might help Jon when dealing with depression and might help reframe his creativity *Liminal space since the turn of the century Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... is a listener-supported joint. To receive new shows and support our work, please become a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deanandphil.substack.com/subscribe
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