The Art Life
from Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... Hosted by Dean and Phil
For a few years now, good friends Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been meeting via Zoom to hold each other’s feet to the fire in their shared desires to create art that is filled with life while also endeavoring to live life more artfully. Near the end of 2025, we started making large sections of these meetings available in podcast form, and we call that podcast “The Art Life”. Welcome! On this week’s installment … *Birmingham, Michigan, as home for popular stars and trailblazing architects *Whether Dean has lost the ability to hold “the tension of the opposites” *Why learning is fun *How to see the adage “the show must go on” in a different light *The questions that might help Jon when dealing with depression and struggling to create *The origin of the phrase “liminal space” *The casting and color closeup photography in the all-time classic Local Hero Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... is a listener-supported joint. To receive new shows and support our work, please become a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deanandphil.substack.com/subscribe
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