I feel like the rain's gonna pick up. Yeah, if it does, it should happen. Say not. Welcome to Dan and Brent Live Forever.
I'm Brent. I'm Dan. I'm a son of Brent. Yeah, you're not me.
Alright, so today is an important day in history, Dan. Why is that? Well, because today we're actually getting serious about this and we're gonna actually do something. There was a medium amount of preparation.
I'll give you that. Mm-hmm. I have a giant drawing tablet next to me with notes on it because I couldn't find any note paper in my house. I love how you wrote Splash down in the corner.
Splash. Do you like how it's got like little lines out of it? Oh, so what you been up to Dan? I'd like to treat you.
Not too bad, not too bad. I don't know how comfortable you are with this, but we're both security technicians. Man, go ahead and say that. And I don't know how you feel about this, but does technician make you feel bad?
Like, kinda? Just think about this. How many technicians does it take to hear the quotes? Sound like a cool job.
It seems like they always add that on to make something sound kind of interesting, but it's not like you janitor. Oh, you're a lavatory technician? No, I don't think they do that. You're a sandwich artist.
Sandwich artist. Sandwich artist is the worst. It's pretty bad. You make something like a force you to save that.
No, I know, and that's ridiculous. I mean, I don't think it's a bad word. Yeah, but think about it. What sort of technician sounds like a cool job?
Like, even if you're a guitar tech for Led Zeppelin, I think audio tech. I think you have much respect for a guitar tech, even though they probably do some really cool shit and they work for cool people. Well, you gotta think a lot of, I mean, like an audio technician, like a band relies on a band will sound like, I mean, not all bands. Some bands sound great live, but some bands sound like complete shit without an audio technician, but then again, when it's an audio technician, it's not audio technicians, an audio engineer.
Right. Well, my point is, so like when somebody asks you what you do, what do you say? I hear you're vibrating. I told you to leave it at home.
Hey, man, can I borrow a couple of double fists? Okay. I almost said double E batteries. Isn't that what it's for?
God damn it. I mean, do you need to take that? Do I need a deposit? Yeah, I mean, if you could, it's just gonna ruin the whole thing.
No problem. I mean, when people ask me what I do, I just, I tell them I install security systems, fire systems, camera systems, alarm systems. So you go through all that? Yeah, I go through all that.
Right. Why do you do that though? Because if you say I'm a security, or can they think you're a security guard? They think you're a security guard.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I don't want to make sure they go. And then when they're like, like for a gated community and I'm like, no, I'm a security technician and then they're like, what did they give you a computer?
Like, I'm never had anyone say that. Anyway, sidetrack. I was trying to buy some toothpaste this week and I realized, I don't know if you're aware, that they have eradicated the metal toothpaste tube. Do you remember those?
Like a big fat tube of aquafresh. It was like kind of like a woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like kind of sharp on the sides.
Yeah, if you like folded it, you would think it would leak out the side. Oh, and it did. Yeah. I don't think I've ever had it leak out a bit.
Yeah, it leaks down a little bit. I don't brush my teeth. So. Am I weird?
So you know, aquafresh has got the three stripes, right? You only use one of the colors. I've thought about it because I think in the commercials they wanted to separate. You know what I'm saying?
I think they're all the same. They're just not differently. Of course. Yeah.
I think it tastes kind of weird. But you know what's even more strange as I can't buy aquafresh because even as a kid and probably as an adult, I would try to taste each of the individuals' stripes. See if they're any different. You know what I mean?
No, I don't know. I've never done that. Okay, I'm a fucking weirdo. Yeah, so I ended up with Gorgate because I don't like any mysteries.
Man, I'll tell you what, I think it's aquafresh. Aquafresh. Aquafresh. It's like the orange tube.
Is it the micro bubbles? It's a different. No, I have none. I'm not aware of this.
My wife buys all the toothpaste. It is amazing feeling in your mouth. That's why I end up with the red and white Colgate every time I buy it. Yeah, my wife likes the Listerine or Scopes-flavored ones that are really strong minty.
See, like scrubbing bubbles? That feels like mouth with that aquafresh. I say aquafresh, just aquafina. I don't know.
Whatever. That's not really exciting. But I thought it was odd that they don't have metal. Well, I mean, it knows weird.
So everything's kind of going plastic, but then plastic you have to worry about chemicals leaching into whatever is in plastic. True. So if you have metal not leach, I would assume it does. Damn good question.
It's a damn good question. But maybe aluminum's not as bad as was it BPAs? Mercury. Yeah.
I don't think they make mercury cans. But they used to make mercury fillings. Yeah, that is incredibly stupid. Right.
Let's put some poisonous metal right next to some arteries. I don't know. There's some blood in there. I mean, there has to be it because your gums bleed.
While we're putting in these poison fillings, we're going to also coat your teeth in more poison fluoride. Oh, you want to hose on? We're going to poison your whole mouth. What's all that about?
Yeah, they put in like a whole episode right there. Oh, man. It gets deep. Didn't Hitler try to use fluoride for mind control and stuff?
There's a lot of conspiracy theories about the US government using fluoride for mind control. Yeah. What the fuck is that about? Which you wouldn't think you would think seems like a lie.
You think seems like a lie until you hear that Hitler tried to use it as mind control and then you go, well, maybe. Hitler tried to do a lot of stuff. Yeah, we saw the scientists. Yeah, good point.
Yeah, because it didn't work out. I mean, it's like getting a new job. Like, you know, they see the writing on the wall and the US government's like, hey, why don't you build bombs for us instead? Yeah.
I think this is good idea. It's not going to be a job next week. I make big bomb for you. It's totally what happened.
Totally what happened. Crazy. You can't beat racist against other white people. No, you really can.
You can totally make any accident you want. That's what's so great about Nazis. Like you can make fun of Nazis or German people in general as much as you want. Nobody gives a shit.
Yeah, go ahead and try to make a Chinese voice. It's not going to happen. See what happens. Oh, lots of hate.
Lots of hate. Here we go. Hi, Chinese. Boom, done.
Hello. Hello, on Chinese. My Chinese accent. Welcome to Zen Garden.
Do you think that, I mean, it's not to happen, but like do white people run American restaurants in other countries? I say white people. Do Americans run? Yeah, that was a fuck up.
Do Americans run American restaurants in other countries like Chinese people run Chinese restaurants here? Well, it was a fuck up for good reason because it's the same sort of racism. It seems like it would be a good idea, doesn't it? If I'm running a McDonald's in Iraq and I'm in a raky and I drive by and be like, they don't have really Americans.
White people there. This is bullshit. They've been to Chinese buffet and seen the workers come out the back and they're all Mexican. Yeah.
They're not Chinese people cooking. Yeah, sometimes. Well, in like the smaller restaurants. I think sometimes those are ways for people to bring their family over like, hey, when I'm working my restaurant.
And you know, I do say Chinese when really good for that. I can't tell the difference. I'm sorry if that's racist. I mean, I couldn't tell if you were German or Norwegian, just the same I couldn't tell someone's Korean Japanese.
Yeah, in other words, we've got a great joke about that. It's not racist. It's just I'm still in a department store. So one lady come up to another lady and she was like, excuse me.
Are you Korean? She was like, no, I'm Vietnamese. And he's like, they can't tell the difference either. I'm calling everybody Chinese because you would think that they would be able to tell.
What about you, man? What's going on? Man, I've been super busy. I have one, two, three, five, six, Swiss family, Robinson.
I have seven people. Seven people. Seven people living. Rangers.
Not your family. I mean, they're technically family. Seven extra people though. No, seven total people, including myself, my wife, my daughter.
Oh, what was I said? I got about like 10 kids in your house. Yeah, I was being a little sorry. No, because two people came to babysit.
Oh. Yeah, I have five, four children. A stranger, one is yours. Yeah, one of those is mine.
A stranger, my wife and me. Stranger guy or girl? He's going to the Citadel school. Yeah.
And he worried about that? No, no. He's a good kid. That's not attractive.
Nice, tall. I'm a good looking guy. He's kind of dorky. He's kind of doing to a friend of mine out west, dude.
Yeah. Yeah. But he's helping the studio out, you know. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Hey, we're getting out of wars because that dude was my wife. Wow. Yeah, that happened. Yeah, my wife has probably been more than just my friend.
Yeah, my wife wants him out of our house. She's like, I wish I would never said he could stay here. It's a big burden on me. Oh, okay.
We definitely not blowing him. Yeah. She's like, I just want him to stay forever. I'd be like, whoa.
Sounds normal to me. Yeah. But yeah, so it's been a bit stressful, man. I have nowhere to go to be by myself.
Like nowhere. Like I go in the living room. There's three kids. My daughter's in her room.
This guy's in her spare bedroom. I go in my bedroom. There's my wife and another kid. It's like, what have you got the master bathroom?
No. No. I just, it's a small bathroom. I just go outside.
Yeah. That's really cool. I just stand in the kitchen. I just stand there and I drink.
And my wife's like, why are you drinking so much? I'm like, really? Stop talking. I'm drinking now.
It's been stressful. I mean, they're good kids and all. They have it rough down there. They're from Florida.
Yeah. Enough said. Yeah. So, but it's been good.
And I've been working a lot to stay out of the house though. That's for damn sure. Hell yeah. I went to the Walgreens recently to get some toilet paper because I threw all the toilet paper in the trash so I could get out of the house.
No, you didn't. That's a loosey kid joke. Oh. I liked it.
I told the paper. I've taken the trash out and just stayed outside before. So, for any of you that are unfamiliar with live forever, we live in Charleston, South Carolina. And we're interested in weird stuff.
We like the esoteric, the mythological, the unexplained. Things that are interesting to us. It's probably not going to be the greatest, most factual content ever. But that's what's so great about things that are unexplained is that nobody knows for sure so we can bullshit the whole time.
Yeah. So we're just talking about stuff we enjoy. And it's really just a chance for us to hang out. Yeah, pretty much.
And Chitchat, we said why not record it and wear headphones and make it work. Yeah, I mean, live forever. Just sounded cool. Yeah.
I mean, it doesn't really mean anything in particular, but I mean, well, I think it means that by the last episode you hear, we will have discovered how to live forever. Yeah. I'm with you there. I'm with you.
I'm going to get in my deep, deep coast to coast voice now. Space ghost now. George Norrie. The real shit.
I love how serious George is with everybody. Like, even when people are like, I'm flying over here, 51, they're shooting me down. What do I do? And he's like, oh my gosh.
Oh, what do we do? Well, that was an amazing car. Right? He's so serious about it.
And that's what's so great. Well, he has to do that. Otherwise, people wouldn't call in. No.
People who seriously think like, listen, Bigfoot and pregnant me last week, I'm already in the third trimester. And they, the weird thing is smart. It's smart. That's how he pulls the content out of his collars, though.
Well, I mean, you can't fend off crazy. But is that crazy is sometimes the best. You got to pull him in and like, oh, yeah, what trimester. Like, I would feel bad because it's taken advantage of people.
It really is. Like, mentally ill people. So what do we get into? What do you want to talk about?
Are you talking about? Well, um... That's... That's...
Is that what you're getting into? I'm getting into Atlantis, but before I do that, Dan. Hold on. I got some for it.
I have a question for you first. Okay. Go ahead. Hey, Dan.
What? Given the choices between these two items. Which... Would you rather...
Would I rather? Yeah. Something, something, something, something, something. Would you rather?
Theme song theme song. That was good. Theme song theme song theme song. That's the theme song for...
Why was that a Chinese one? It wasn't. Okay. Fair enough.
It's Korean. It's just the way you say it. So Dan, would you? Yep.
Being yourself. Me. As you are right now. Dan.
In the same predicament you are now. That's me. It's not a predicament. In the same life.
Everyone says it. Would you rather smoke with any artist? Music artist. Or smoke with any...
Okay. So that's right. Right. Smoke.
Me. Politician. Living our dead. Man, that's a tough one.
See, for me, it would seem obvious because I'm a huge music fan. I mean, who isn't everybody? I mean, that's like saying I like traveling. I'm like, do I see things?
Or those kind of decks that are like, what are you listening to? I listen to everything, man. That's what I say. You fucking don't listen to everything.
I literally do. No, you don't. It's impossible. I'm open to listening.
Hey, there we go. That's a better way to go. So you know what I used to ask people in college when they would say that same dumbass answer? I would force them to tell me what is currently dated in their CD player.
And they would be like, good one. Like, chronic 2000. I'm like, nobody like chronic 2000. I do.
Okay. Well, that's fine. Do you not like chronic? No, I mean, it's not the chronic.
It's totally different. It's still good, but it's not the chronic. Whatever. What is it?
But that tells me something about you. That means you're a pretty serious actor, a fan. And maybe we need to talk some more about it. I like a Dre.
I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, yeah. So, you might. Any politician. Ever.
Living our dead. I think I would want to speak with. Uh, uh, smoke with. Sorry.
Genghis Khan. That is a great choice. Yeah. Three quarters of Asia at one point.
Three quarters. Do you know how big Asia is? Three quarters. My question though.
You can just say a politician. Is he a politician? Mmm. Fair enough.
He's a leader. He's a leader, but he's not a politician. He was more of a general. I'll give you that.
Okay. I'll just adjust my English. By politician, I mean someone voted in office. Okay.
Was he? Yeah. Was he? Sinant House.
Oh, man, he got me. He had to have been a politician. I don't know, man. You think he was just a shit talker?
He was just an awesome guy. Man, he got me again. Okay. Puntition.
I mean, what sense? A leader with a party system? Well, see, uh, now you got me because I almost just set any leader, but. Yeah.
That would be Genghis Khan. I guess any leader minus dictators. Minus dictators. Okay.
And I mean, you can throw in there anyone from parliament, sinant house, but I doubt you would choose any of those. You're obviously going to go present. And again, you also can't do King of the Churchill. That's a good one.
I'll give you that one. He seems like it would be cool. He said a lot of cool stuff. He seemed like a cool guy.
There was some stuff going on. Yeah. Uh, my personal? Roosevelt.
Man, that was a, that I considered Roosevelt. You're talking about Teddy, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, Teddy.
Teddy. Dude. Dude, he's imagine even hanging out with that dude. Dude, he's the one who set up the whole like rugged son of a bitch.
The whole national park system. Oh, that's, that's the very small part of why he's cool. No, no, no, no. That's not like about his.
Hey, tell me about the parks. Tell me about that expedition to the Amazon where your son died. That's what I want to hear from. Yeah, man.
That gets deep. Yeah, the rough riders. No, no. That's regulators.
That's regulators. It's still cool though. Man, yeah. Good choice.
I, you know, I thought about it. I thought about Roosevelt. I really did. I just feel like Churchill.
I mean Churchill's got two men. Churchill's got two men. And he was involved in a lot of spy stuff. Oh, man.
No, no, no, no. There was a lot of cross pond mobster shit going on. Here's the one. JFK.
Yeah. I mean, I just want to know what you mean. Something. He knew something.
I mean, if I don't go there, I go like Nero. I was like ancient history. I was like ancient stuff. Like a very serious.
What's the guy who killed like everyone? Cornelius. That's not right. It starts with C.
Cesar? Come on. I mean, if you're going to go. No, there's the other guy.
What? I guess the Cesar? It starts with Cesar. It's not Cesar.
It's not Nero. It's not an idiot. I don't know. I want to say Cornelius.
I know that's not right. It's totally wrong. I wish there was never Cornelius. Or Cornelius.
Well, is that later? I'm going to be like, where are I? I'm going to be like, I'm not going to race on all things in my name. Who came after Cesar?
That's a good question. Well, and then which Cesar or if you? Cesar Augustus. It's a C.O.
C.O. Constantine? Yeah, that's the one. He wasn't a politician.
What? No. You mean? No, he was not a politician.
I'm bullshitting on that. He might have been a politician. Pretty sure he was like the leader of Rome at one point. He may have been the leader of the Roman Church or the leader of their army.
He may be very much involved in... Any other one who killed his own mom or fucked his mom or...? No. The fucking one.
Constantine was responsible for the Council of Nicaea where they centralized the Bible and cut out a bunch of weird esoteric stuff. I knew a tiny bit about Constantine, but that's a whole different upside. It might not have been Constantine then. Yeah.
Anyways, I wouldn't mind smoking with Constantine either. Well, now since we're serious, we both chose politicians just because why though? Because of the knowledge you'd be able to get from them. The insight.
Yeah, I mean, I feel like I dove pretty deep into music. I don't understand what it's like to play with other people. I understand certain types of music. I think what it means to me, I've traveled down a lot of those roads.
You know what I'm saying? And the broader knowledge of society and government is something that's somewhat lost on me. Like the kind of person that it takes to run a country or to run an army. That's a different kind of person.
Another... I almost said Vladimir Putin. That would have been a good one. Yeah.
Former KGB. Several times to the mob. And just a gangster. I mean, he's just a fucking gangster.
You ever heard him talk? Yeah. Dude's a beast. Love that guy.
I want to high five of them. What if we expanded into that? Just anyone in history? Anyone in history?
Anyone at all. Because she's one person. Anyone at all. Jesus Christ.
I knew you were going to say that. I was literally going to be like, and they had to be proven to be real. That's fair. I'm not saying she's one real.
Just saying. Oh man. For sure. Favorite historical figure.
That is a very excellent one. Yeah, man. He could see 3D images in his mind. He never wrote anything down.
That's just a little bit. In the Tesla. We might have to do an episode on Tesla. That dude is amazing.
Huh? We're coming up with lots of ideas. Yeah, for sure. We're definitely going to be explaining this.
What about you? Anybody. Anybody at all. I had something in the Tesla and I was like, yeah, I got nothing on that.
Nothing now. Who was it? It was someone over there. Across the pond.
I don't know, man. If anyone at all. Proved into exist. Mmm.
I had to. I know one. A Thagarist. Ooh.
Socrates. I think Socrates wouldn't be bad. I like math. The Thagarist.
He's way more interesting because he, all of his knowledge he gained from the Egyptians and most of his writings are lost. Like the only things we know about that dude are because of his followers. Well, actually, who I'd like to talk to. Who.
Because we'd be able to get down to the goddamn truth. Who. About Atlantis. Plato.
What? Good segue, bro. What are we talking about today, bro? Today, Dan.
My topic is Atlantis. Right. The sunken lost city. What about you, Dan?
What are you talking about today? Maybe a little bit of mermaids. Mermaid. It's an under the C spectacular special edition.
Aquatic. Right? Yeah, man. Are you familiar with this?
Who isn't? He's one of the most famous clips of all time. Are you familiar with the piece? I'm going to say what it is and I know I'm wrong.
Is it from the Nutcracker? No. What is it? What the fuck am I thinking that's wrong?
I know it. It's something childlike and it was required knowledge in my own entry school because my music D-shirt was pretty dope. This is from Carnival of the Animals. This is called Aquarium.
It's one of those famous pieces of all time. I don't doubt that you've heard it in about a thousand movies, TV shows, etc. I just thought it was appropriate. It was an under-warm, under-water theme.
I just thought it was appropriate. So, man. Play-doh, right? Right.
You heard of Play-doh? Yeah, once or twice. Yeah, come on down. I thought I thought I maybe did.
The Republic. Well, Play-doh is kind of... You're a terrorist-doodle. Yeah.
Did you know that when Aristotle wasn't at school, Play-doh would just go home? Really? Yeah, he was like, you guys are idiots. I don't want to talk to anybody.
Aristotle's the only one with a brain. I did not know that. Yeah. Well, Play-doh is where Atlantis, I guess, originated from, I guess you could say.
There's multiple stories. Legend of Atlantis. Yes. The one that you think of when you hear the word Atlantis.
Sure. It comes from Play-doh's writings. He wrote two writings that mention it. Right?
I think the first one is like... Okay, you're going to bear with me as far as pronouncing ancient Greek. Timeyethis. Timeyethis.
Timeyethis. You got me on that one? T-I-M-A-U-S. What was it?
You got me? Yep. Good luck. Timeyethis.
Timeyethis. Timeyethis and Kritius. Oh. So, Timeyethis is in English translation of those?
That's people's names. Oh, okay. So, Timeyethis was the first one that he wrote. He wrote it in 360 BC.
Two meals. Two meals. Two meals. Two meals.
So, basically in Timeyethis, it's a dialogue. It's basically... 30-46, we're cutting that out. That's stupid to shoot.
Right down. 30-46. 30-46? Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah. All right, Timeyethis is basically a dialogue. Four people talking to each other. Most of the whole thing is one monologue.
Spoken by Timeyethis. Timeyethis. I'm going to stutter on his name. Oh, Tim.
Oh, Tim. Tim is basically the monologue for the whole story, but there are other people in the story. Socrates. Who heard that guy before?
Tim. Yep. Herm. Herm.
Herm. Herm. Herm. Herm.
Herm. Herm. Herm. Kritius.
Which? Kritius. Man, if. Kritius.
I knew that I would let you know. Fair enough. Fair enough. So, and Timious, your phone did break today, so I mean, that's fair.
Yeah, I had to scramble to get this put back together in time. It's a shame. So basically it describes Atlantis' ideal state before it waged war on Athens. Okay.
So, the reason it failed in defeating Athens was because of its... Which is odd because according to the history, Athens was not a warring city. No, no, no. Atlantis was trying to conquer.
Right. That's my point. I'm not a warring city. Well, in Kritius, the second dialogue, they're called dialogues because it was a people talking.
Right. So, Kritius, the second dialogue. Kritius explains why Atlantis lost. Okay.