The Autumn Defense's Pat Sansone is Here and Nowhere

Patrick Sansone formed The Autumn Defense with fellow Wilco bandmember John Stirratt over 20 years ago, but its been a while since their last album. But fans can rejoice as Here And Nowhere is about to drop.The 13th Floor's Marty Duda spoke to Pat about the long gestation period that finally spawned Here and Nowhere. Watch and listen as Pat explains how the two songwriters work together and apart from their other projects.

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