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EPISODE · Feb 17, 2026 · 39 MIN

The Bear vs. Residency: Are Kitchens and Hospitals the Same?

from Surgeon, Interrupted

This week on Surgeon, Interrupted, Frances sits down with her oldest friend—Executive Pastry Chef Rebecca Freeman—to talk about what happens when your childhood dream actually comes true… and it’s still hard.Becky is the Executive Pastry Chef at Coyote Café and Santacafé in Santa Fe, a National Pastry Chef of the Year, and a multi–40 Under 40 award winner. She knew at five years old she wanted to be a chef. Frances Mei? Not so much.Together, they unpack:The brutal reality behind The Bear (spoiler: it’s not exaggerated)Crying in the walk-in vs. crying in the call roomWorking 400 days in a row to outrun imposter syndromeWhy high-achieving women panic after success instead of celebratingHow toxic training environments mirror dysfunctional familiesAnd what it looks like to break the cycle when you finally become the leaderThis is a conversation about abuse in elite professions—kitchens and operating rooms alike. About ambition. About ego. About emotional regulation. And about the strange truth that sometimes the job you begged the universe for still makes you question yourself.If you’ve ever achieved the dream and still thought, What’s next? Why am I not satisfied? — this one’s for you.Host: Frances Mei Hardin, MDGuest: Chef Rebecca FreemanConnect with Rebecca:IG: @chefbckyfreemanhttps://www.newmexicomagazine.org/blog/post/rebecca-freeman-santa-fe-pastry-chef/https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/business/glaze-of-glory-club-at-las-campanas-executive-pastry-chef-wins-national-culinary-prize/article_a42250e2-517e-11ee-87d2-bbbea92e1dac.htmlPresented by: The Hippocratic CollectiveFollow Frances Mei on Instagram & Tiktok @francesmeimdAnd subscribe to ⁨@HippocraticCollective⁩ on Youtube for all of the other shows the Hippocratic Collective has to offer.

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