Hi, I'm Megan Segura. And I'm Eric Day-Mac. And this is The Daily Dish, Bravo's official podcast. The Below Deck Season 7 reunion has come to a close.
What a crazy reunion it was, too. In the second part, it was really focused on the girls versus the guys' behavior on deck. Ashton and Kate talk about his unwarranted kiss, Ashton not remembering he punched the window in the van, the guys questioning having Lee's bias towards Kate, which eventually leads to him walking off the set. I don't blame him.
Some of the guys' questions really seemed like they forgot Lee was their boss through the entire season. We also had a lot of talk about Riley's fiery attitude, Simone shared what it's like being a woman of color in the yachting industry and Courtney gave a final and definitive answer on her relationship expectations with Ryan and Fucho. Yeah, it's not looking too good for them. Nope.
So just in case you missed the episode or want to relive the final part of the reunion all over again, we transformed Watch What Happens Live Below Deck reunion into a special podcast just for you. Enjoy. Tonight, part two of the Below Deck reunion. We've got a fireball coming.
I have to sit and take a response to this for you. I feel like you're not that sorry. It would have been people's up. Honestly, they respected me.
I don't feel like I was coming over the way it's been shown. The way it's been shown or the way that you acted. You know damn well what I think of you the moment I think of you. Is there anything that Kate has ever done that you have an issue with?
Let's start in the beginning. What would you have done differently? Just to apologize. Give me a fucking break.
However you like it, I really don't give a shit. I'm here for a cancer. Fucking dickhead. Part two of the Below Deck reunion starts now.
We're back with the Below Deck reunion. While most Below Deck drama takes place on the high seas, this season, one of the most upsetting moments happened on land in a van. Watch. I don't accidentally make out with somebody twice.
If you think you're such a good person, get the fuck out of yourself, Kate. Okay, there was a strong viewer reaction to the apparent danger of the situation in the van. I just want to mention there was a producer in the van with you who made the call that instead of pulling over at night in the middle of nowhere in Thailand, that it would be safest to return immediately to the boat. Do you agree with that call or do you wish that you had pulled over?
No, I don't think anything that great would have happened if we pulled over. So I was like, get back to Marina and I trust that. Ashton, once you saw the episode where you exploded and you realized that Kate was not out of line, did you apologize immediately or what was your reaction when you saw it? Well, the first time I saw that was after the trailer got hit and I hadn't up to that point.
I didn't know that I hit the window and I said on the show that I immediately messaged her on Instagram and I apologized. Did your hand not hurt the next day? Not really. Really?
You punched the window pretty hard. You did not feel your hand. I must have punched something. He only remembers that.
I'm really curious about his mother. Okay, he only remembers that. No, I'm serious. Your hand not hurt the next day?
Let me ask you this. When you asked him about his mom, were you doing it to provoke him? No, this is what I mean when people assume that you were calling a psycho. I called you psycho after you crunched the window.
Let's not get it twisted up. So what I assumed from that situation was when you heard us making fun of Tanner's mom that you came to his support and said, well, what about your mom? So in my head it was we were making fun of Tanner's mom and you kind of stood in to support him and was poking fun at my mom. I'm not saying that's right.
Are you guessing that's what you're... Are you guessing that's what you're... You don't remember. You don't remember.
It was temporary amnesia. I remember you saying something about my mom and that's what I said to Katyn the next morning when I went up. You said to me what happened and I said, all I remember is something about my family So you didn't know. No, go back.
I said, all I remember is something about my family being brought up and I got very angry. Katyn, I had words last night about my family being brought up for some reason. I don't know what exactly happened but things were a bit heated between her and I and she walked off the boat. The doctor would have been fuel alcohol and things like that.
I don't think you actually remembered what happened and that's the issue that I have with you and Kevin and Brian and Tanner throughout the whole season is that you would get black out drunk and not recall anything that happened and then you would all get together in the morning and try to piece it all together as to, Jesus Christ, what the f**k happened last night and it was a s**t storm. Kevin, you were carried into your bunk that I know of twice. Twice? Five times.
Five times out of nine charters. You were physically carried and poured into your bunk. Joyce L from St. Louis said that she feels Ashton should have been fired after he punched the window.
Why didn't anyone go straight to the captain about it? Why wouldn't you say to the captain Ashton what you did? Why would you not tell him that? Well, I think you already made your point that I didn't remember so why do you not tell him that?
Oh, right, okay. Yeah, you're right. Sorry. Lee Christine C from Jersey said Lee, you said you never want to work with Ashton again.
Is that still the case and Ashton, what's your response? If Ashton's the same person that I worked with last year, no, I don't want to work with him. Honestly, like I said, I'm a proud of that person that I saw and that I was this season and that's Captain E's feeling and I respect that. Ashton, Lexi A from South Dakota said you said I watched What Happens Live that Kate reciprocated the kiss for the first time.
It looked more like you grabbed her face and because she was also intoxicated she probably didn't have much time to react or realize what was going on. She told you after the fact not to do it again but you still tried. Are you saying that just because you felt her tongue in your mouth and gave you the right to try again without asking for consent? Andy, the first time I kissed Kate I obviously had some sort of feelings towards her.
Something that wasn't aired was I actually went to Kate for advice one day during dinner and we had a really cool conversation and she gave me a few compliments and encouraged me on this person's journey and honestly, I felt like that was a really cool conversation we had and I felt there was a little bit of a vibe there which is why I went for the first kiss on the first night. The second kiss, that was completely uncalled for and was completely unprofessional from my side. My drinking this season has been a massive issue. It's something that I'm taking extremely seriously in my life.
I have quit drinking and for someone like me who is a polyanimal and loves the social environment and drinking, that is as serious as I'm taking this and that is as serious as I look at the situation with you in that van. I feel intensely regretful and intensely upset about the way I behaved towards Kate in that van. From the kiss to me losing my temper, that is not something that I am proud of at all which is why I have apologized and sitting in front of you tonight I will apologize face to face to you that I am extremely sorry that I put you in that situation and I am extremely sorry for trying to kiss you. I was drunk and we spoke about late reactions being drunk.
The minute to the second I felt you pull away, I left you alone. My intention was never to force myself on you and I had obviously got it wrong in my head the first night where I thought there was something going on between us and I went for the kiss and the second night there is no excuse for it. I was completely drunk because I was out of my mind and I am sorry for that. I hate the fact that everything has been spun the way it is but you know what?
I have to sit and take responsibility for that because I am the one that behaved the way I did. I am making serious changes in my life because I am proud of the person that I saw on camera that night and I am extremely sorry. I have amazing relationships with all the women in my life and the way everything has turned out and the way everything seems out there in the real world now and the labels I am being labeled with I am extremely ashamed of and what hurts me the most is I know I am not that person. I know that my behavior showed that and I know that I need to take responsibility for that and whatever the lesson is in this that I have to learn I am learning and I know what I need to change and I will be better for it.
Okay. Oh, yeah, I can see even coming up the table to show. What's an apology? I can't tell anymore.
I know what I need to change and I will be better for it. I appreciate you saying that now and I believe you and thank you and I don't think that's who you are but it's hard for me. I just wonder when you got to this realization because I've seen after shows on BravoTV.com where you are doubling down. You don't seem to be that sorry.
So I just wonder what made you feel sorry and when. It's a valid point. It's a valid point. You get defensive first off and yes, it has taken me time to realize the extent of what happened and how wrong I was in the situation.
So I didn't just see it and boom, say, geez, you're an idiot which I probably should have but it's natural to want to just be defensive and try and justify your behavior. Did you see his behavior as predatory? Watching it from an outsider, yes, but when you're in it it's just like, oh, there's action. There's so much going on that it's hard.
It's strange to see it from an outsider's recap view six months later. But did you realize that you're so sorry here on the stage because an hour ago you're questioning my audience experience and I just don't feel like I feel like you're not that sorry. I feel like you're still really justifying your behavior. Lee, Lexi A from South Dakota said what do you think about Ashton's unwanted sexual advances toward Kate?
Do you wish that Kate had told you what he had done immediately? Yes. I would not tolerate that behavior from anyone and had that behavior become known to me then Ashton would have been terminated on the spot. That simple.
Ashton, Katrina asked from Louisville said on Watch What Happens Live you said your mom had seen your behavior on the show and thought she raised you better. What have your conversations been like with her? My mom and I have always been pretty straight up and open and honest with each other and she expressed some of her concerns to me and I've listened to what she's had to say and she's not necessarily happy with the way I've behaved. She's not happy and she wants the best for me and she wants me to be the best version of myself that I can be.
It's part of the reason I'm changing the way I behave. When did you quit drinking? January, beginning of January. So that was a month.
Before then I've kind of been moving towards it. I really started evaluating why do I drink and that's why it was an easy decision for me to make and it's been an easy adaptation for me to make. Yeah, that's good for you. Ashton's rethinking his drinking.
Have any of you had that same conversation with yourself? Yeah, looking at the episodes and stuff and you know as Kevin Lee says getting blackout drunk. In retrospect, I need to kind of lay off it and put down that sixth drink or whatever it is and just cut it off and cut myself off. On their off time between charters when the Valor crew wasn't engaging in sexy time they were duking it out in a full-on battle of the sexes.
Let's take a look back at that rather complicated dynamic. Are you messy tonight? I gave a starter 100%. I'm ready to party.
Miss Hannah? I don't know. Join me. What the f***?
What the f***? What the f***? What the f*** are you? What do you think I am?
I'm kind of busy. Brian! Stop driving. Can't just do what you want to do.
Shut the f*** up. What size pants are you? 36. Okay, great.
That's nice. Those aren't yours. They could be Brian's. I said clothes all over the crewmates before.
There's people who stretch below me. How old are we? Are we a bunch of kingdom gardeners? I think I've done a lot of people as long.
All right. I think we won. What is that? Oh, man.
I just can't do anything right. Get in the van. Get in the van. And then why?
Get in the van. Don't. Touch me. Kate, get out of my fear.
Go that way. Oh, my God. What the f*** is going on? This hour of the night I don't need to hear slamming doors, loud voices.
I don't think you're that going to be out. You're a baker. That's all you are. Don't.
Don't do that. Reject file sand. Cheats into my eye. I'd like to go home.
I mean, it ends with you kicking sand. Yeah, super sorry about that. I can't remember what you said, but obviously there was something. No, I had to do it.
Don't talk about what you said. I was saved by myself for a while. I'm giving him advice. Just say sorry and shut up.
You've been pepping up Kate. All the f***ing show. No, we're rushing to slap him. You just said I'm way sorry.
Was this an apology? I can't tell anymore. I'm so sorry about the second. I didn't say I was like.
You're super hard to kick sand. I didn't even kick sand. No, it was good. Thank you.
It was painful. I appreciate that apology. They respected me. What did they respect about you, though?
I'm curious, Adi and Simone, did you all feel intensely that the guys were against you? I would say something. While I was there, I don't know if our personalities meshed together or what it was, but honestly, they respected me. I saw later on in the season things that I had never experienced.
I was respected and my opinion was respected and I felt like I could talk to them. We could laugh. We could joke. We really did.
I mean, we got along. I don't know. I didn't feel anything like because I was a girl. What about you?
For the most part, I mean, I had my issues with Hannah. Fine. Brian was like a brother to me who had my back continuously throughout the season who literally considered my feelings before even I considered my feelings myself and stuff, you know? And with Kevin also, it's coming up a lot and I think it's getting, the disconnect is that it's getting construed as like a deep-seated hatred for women.
It's not that. It's hostility towards women who act in a way that we're not expected to, that society doesn't expect us to. Maybe Abby didn't feel that way because she wasn't as assertive. Also, Simone.
I have to say that when like genuinely I was respected by them on the deck. What did they reflect about you? Like did you offer, like you were just, I mean, you were like a third deck. I understand.
Yeah, I was low on the totem pole to know that, but I knew that and I knew I'm not, Riley, you're physically stronger than me. We can, like you are, I knew that I couldn't do certain things. I told them I can't do certain things and I will work around it and I'll figure out a way that I can do it with my size and my abilities. They respected that.
I think what happened here is that you guys all got put in a stressful, strange situation and you guys kind of all encouraged each other in the wrong way. And I don't think separately any of you are bad people at all. I think you're all quite lovely without, you know, being public influence. You're pressured.
That's a good point to make actually because when you get on the first time to be on the show, like you don't get a manual of what to do and how to do it. And sometimes you get portrayed in a way that you didn't mean to portray yourself in. Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah.
And it's not, that's not true. It's not sometimes. They can't edit you to be anything else. What I'm saying is that I'll do something but I didn't mean it in the way that it came out to be.
Like a lot of things that caught me. Like I look at the episodes and I know you got a lot of hatred for me but I look at the episodes and I feel like, I feel sad sometimes because we didn't have such good times and I did like you a lot. And when I see the episode I can see the way I acted wasn't the right way to act but when I was doing it I didn't feel like I was coming across the way it's been shown in the episode. The way that you acted.
The way that acted. Because it's being shown how you acted. I didn't mean it like that. That's what I'm trying to say.
Lee, Sarah N wants to know if you were aware of the toxic culture the guys on the boat created. Was there anything the girls could have told you that would have made you take it seriously and change the dynamic? There was a lot of things that they could have told me but they didn't. There were some things that I think Kate should have brought to my attention that would have changed the whole dichotomy of everything that happened on the boat.
Were you aware that it was happening? No, not at all. Why do you think that was you know what's kind of happening with her and girls don't get wrong i know it sucks because it's like it's me saying it as a male and all the rest of it but i feel like it wasn't that bad honestly i didn't know what you guys had in the van i agree i didn't realize i didn't know you said just slap her with her anyway you asked why i didn't know yeah what would you have done differently to make yourself aware of what i didn't know how would you have behaved no i'm not saying no you say i didn't know and you think i should have known that's how i honestly felt the the end of the season you are so volatile and how you speak about me and you don't even know me from day one excuse me at the end of the season we were pretty cool but then i get to watch how you actually speak about me and that you and that's what i think of you the moment i think of you i don't like i'm not coming here or putting things on twitter or social media i'm just like that's you because i felt like i know the real right like i know you and that you're i don't think you do i react i am i am very reactionary i'm so much no i am very reactionary but do you think that i was treated in a way that i i overreacted to how i was treated do you think that right i'm seriously not saying that you guys reacted badly or anything and the way that it's all being shown and stuff i can understand your guys point of view but i'm just saying i didn't feel boys and girls up next i really don't give a you done putting over these dickheads abby surprised everyone on the deck crew when she quit to answer her text message engagement which led to some face time with a controversial deckhand from last season by the name of riley watch good to see you excited about being the bosun yeah i think abigail she's probably your greenish sailing's like my passion but i've never worked on a motorboat who currently does not have a radio i hope this is the last time i have this conversation about radios i'm really so sorry oh my god i'm so sorry i don't know if i'm cut out for this job abby come give me a hug bye i have a new deckhand coming for you today that's right you have to be kidding me hi how are you doing i'm definitely not ready for this you annoy me like the rest of the that's fine i'm not your chef all right yeah i expected this you guys are surprised you lost in two days two days got it god you're so lost i feel so sorry for you you can't stand up to me relax relax relax relax calm down dude i am calm she's very annoying for your issues same issues everybody had with riley also and i've really tried to address those i'd like to go into the next two charters a man down riley's a hard worker there's no way i'm letting her go whatever i don't care who no no one moves they genuinely just don't like me you're pathetic you're a misogynist pig i trust in myself to hold myself accountable for my actions there's nothing left for ashton and i talk about that's definitive action i think that you predispose the other three members of the crew the male members of the crew towards riley before she got on board because of your previous experience which wasn't a pleasant one i get that it's like brace yourself guys we got a fireball coming and here it comes and just get ready for it and so they were prepared for the worst i don't think you gave her a fair second chance the opinion was not only formed from what i said i said i know she can be hot today but we're gonna make this work she's a hard worker and she can be an asset to the team okay that was my intention on what i told guys why would i sabotage the rest of my season by already putting them against right when i understood what challenge i was going to have in right coming to the season it would have been counterproductive guys decided to bring the new deck in once we drop the hook all right that is somebody that worked with me last season she likes to stay informed to make her feel a part of the team someone there's a lot of history with from last season okay i can see how what i said to them might have been taken the wrong way and yes maybe it did create that that first impression and if that's the way it happened i apologize there was a bad move on my mind who do you apologize to i watching the season i also take full responsibility that when i started seeing a divide happening in the team i should have been more professional and taking care of it in saying that though i do want to bring up a point definitely you got very upset now with kevin about the situation where he said to he overheard something and then he went to brian and told okay so when i was in the wheelhouse and i brought the fishing exertion to your attention and kate's overheard it do you think it was professional kate's part and do you think it helps at all okay what do you think about that ashton what i really think that you have no remorse for decision whatsoever or your behavior if he didn't want to say it in front of kate then he shouldn't he should have called me aside and said captain i want to talk to you about something between me and brian it has a spin-off effect the fact that she did that upset ronnie and further aggravated the situation on deck you can't deny that you don't is there anything that kate has ever done on the boat that you have an issue with oh hell yeah there's nothing that you can do that he will ever have a problem with i mean there's a lot of things that kate and i have discussed the first time that we had a problem when she lied to me about the uh the penis blanket okay you know anything anything from this season from this particular season throwing the laundry you're okay so you're at the table and yes you're sitting there throwing all the laundry on the ground okay and you didn't have a problem with this this is classic i'm sober and everybody else in the whole goddamn room is just okay they're totally drunk okay and so i'm supposed to respond to like you don't have a problem throwing clothes on the floor and then and then another instance actually calls out tanner who can't even stand up right and goes what did you think about the way that they can't behave yourself this evening and tanner just like he's standing there just like bleary eyed can't respond you were there for the penis cake too but that that wasn't unprofessional she embarrassed you and they asked for it didn't they handle better there we go are we getting somewhere oh are we really see the problem that i have with the four of you is that you behave you think that your behavior all season has been totally beyond reproach we're the ones sitting there acknowledging no you're not acknowledging you're doing it you're doing it all of us have apologised all of us have apologised i don't think that your apologies are sincere we all apologize for our parts all we're saying is that there is behavior from the other side that was not acceptable on anybody's standard in a professional yachting industry and instead of sitting and acknowledging that you're protecting kate fine i don't think that's professional i don't think he's protecting me you can you can take it however you like you blatantly said that kate is your best friend and you'll always have her back you wouldn't want to have that same that same position it doesn't make it professional that's my question you would not want to have that same position after served under me for six years and i'm not going to call the insignificant that you guys are calling ashton however you like it i really don't give a ashton christina m from west virginia said hearing your comment did you slap her with your dick was one of the most disturbing things i've ever heard a man say about a woman regardless if she's in the wrong or not i really want to hear an explanation as to why you think saying something like that is okay i 100 don't think that saying something like that is okay um and i have seen a therapist in the last week and that is something that we have identified and we've needed to identify the root cause of why those things would have come up to better my relationship with people around me up next so why do we think captain we went i think we've over it um is captain we gonna come back you guys i mean so why do we think captain we left i think we've over it i think i think i'm confused i don't know what i just think it's better questions that we're asking and it's i honestly thought that what taped it was unprofessional okay i will tell me let's go through the list i just feel like we're sitting here apologizing for like things that have happened in the season yet on this side it just feels like there's nothing okay so throwing the laundry on the ground first of all i'll say i'm sorry i'm sorry i threw the laundry on the ground we're not the troublemakers the troublemakers are the people who create the behavior that causes the reaction and the people that speak about it are the ones that become trouble because it's exhausting to listen to it it's much more exhausting you have to say it over and over and over and tell you why it's a problem sometimes you feel justified in your behavior i get what you're saying and then you act out right but it doesn't make sure have you seen me act out nothing you i'm saying in general to what's happened this season to your point that you're making is you're saying that we we um say something that will cause you to react in a certain way and then we want to judge you for it and i get that but sometimes in the situation don't create your reaction and it won't happen okay um well let me ask this brian brian h from kansas said after watching the footage do you think kate was actually paying you a compliment by calling you a yachty uh with kate i don't know i find it very difficult to find to see when she's being authentic and real and when she's not uh i still believe that she said it in a bad way because i also repeatedly not to call me it and she still called me it i didn't call you it brian i said to me a yachty is a person who's hard-working well-traveled if you watch the episode again you call me multiple times and i asked you not to and you kept doing it i said most yachties don't like what is a yachty simone they make the party animals they work hard they waste their money and like do a lot of illegal stuff he's not going to call me a yachty i'm going to be like uh i said you packed the cooler really well you're a great yachty um nikki l from california ashton she's pissed at you she said how you treated riley both personally and professionally was disgusting you encourage bullying harassment and hate of an employee and a human being do you have any regrets about your treatment of riley i struggled and i should have done better and i should have handled the situation better riley says that she is reactionary that she reacts that she doesn't fire the first shot do you see the things that she was reacting to um yeah 100 again like unless i can sit and say i 100 tried to make things right unless i can sit and say that i always see room for improvements so i got to a point where i don't know how to handle it anymore wasn't it night one that you said you're done with me and we had a chat the next day and we both spoke to each other and said we both acted appropriately we both apologized to each other i am always i am always very self-aware in that my reactions are not at all what i want the outcome to be riley karen b said it's clear you called out unfairness at every turn and don't like being misunderstood or spoken to condescendingly even though you had every right to feel righteous did this season make you see that defending yourself aggressively often makes matters worse i fight fire with fire i didn't come into the boat combative i came into the boat ready to work ready to work you were ready and i said this to you personally i said this to you and i felt this and i still feel this i think you have amazing qualities to be a leader but you have this grudge with me that leads into our working relationship and i don't think that's fair i don't condone mistreatment of myself or anyone else and captain lee since you're back i don't think before before you do that i just want to know why'd you leave i apologize i uh i just felt a bit overwhelmed and i didn't think that uh the conversation was going in a positive fashion i thought it was going very negative and i really didn't want to be a part of a negative image okay um let me we're talking about riley and ashton okay lee liz l from maryland said i heard on watch what happens live that captain lee won't work with ashton again will he work with riley again good question um unless uh some things change probably not uh for you and kate lee uh j lee l from detroit once after watching the season and seeing how riley talked to ashton who was her boss would you be okay with someone under you speaking to you in that way that's a hard no i mean i wouldn't love it before i said to check yourself i think they're both a little bit wrong would you be okay with being treated the way ashton that's why i think you're both a little bit wrong um lisa r uh from st louis facebook ashton why didn't you hold brian and tanner to the same standard as riley it seems like she wasn't allowed to make mistakes but they were i thought about that as well and you know the first the first part i had with anybody on deck was with brian actually where you know him and i got to actually live words across the table so i held him accountable to things i'm not asking for if you need to ask you guys to do dick checks but you want to tell me i'm being unfair you're going to be hectic it's fine come on man you're supposed to be a team that's exactly my point brian and it's interesting that no way in the season did it come up or was abused that i actually had about three or four stern discussions with tanner about his attitude um that he was slipping and that he needed to keep it together so i had issues with tanner and brian throughout the season which i did address ashton um did you ever think about how your buddy ross was able to eventually manage riley successfully last season ross had as difficult time as i did and um what are you shaking your head yes for yeah because i'm a good friend with ross and he's talking to me because i gave you his number to go scratch at his house are we having a discussion ross and i are friends i actually spoke last night that's great ross and i have this communication it's so ridiculous to me that actually he's asking you about you and i's relationship right so don't bring ross into his i asked why your relationship with ross was better just listen more the question is saying that ross did get ross right and i disagree with that because i had many conversations with ross where he felt frustrated to the end i just want you to take it to me thank you riley i can angry at me i'm not even yelling anytime i say anything you wanted doesn't matter what i said i'm literally doing exactly what all of you guys want which is put my head down and be a day worker he said to me that he wished he had pulled the trigger on firing right when he was considering it did you get along with ross better than ashton oh 100 you did up next i was shocked and appalled at everything that i saw unfold this season so let me ask you this the guys have talked about areas of growth that they've seen and that they need to do within themselves um have the women found anything that they have seen in themselves that they would want to improve or change i would like to be more patient um and more understanding even when it's busy or stressful of perhaps the morale of people on my team you really i am a very reactionary person very and it has never in instances like this served me well and i that something you want to change it is absolutely something i want to change and what i should have done and what i need to do is think before i react that way i understand my own points that i want to get across without it becoming explosive and not being the behavior which is remembered uh so when you're in a unique uh position as a woman of color there aren't a heck of a lot of women of color in your position is that correct um in the outing industry yeah what have you learned this season i mean it's it was a mission and a half for me to even get into the industry because a lot of the times like when i'd be put up for jobs the response would be like no the one just refers non-soil um the management company just refers like non-people so it was very difficult for me to actually get a job and when i finally got a job i made it so sure that i worked super super hard stay there you know and it's very difficult to be as a minority and people are looking at you there are people that look like me that are looking at me and seeing how i um conduct myself in certain situations where i feel like i should probably speak up more or react better to certain situations but i don't want to be labeled as maybe like an angry black woman or something like that you know that's very difficult to try to navigate and stuff you know something that i took away from the season was the fact that if you are upset about something that's happening within your department like speak directly to the person that was great you did amazing thank you lee anything you would have done differently this season god no no firing firing is not always the answer and i wish that i had been privy to you know a lot of the things that were going on because i felt that maybe perhaps had i been you know maybe you could have come to me kate could come to me whoever could have come to me and said you know we really got a toxic situation here and you know i would have intervened after i got to see it yeah i i don't know what i don't know and i was i was shocked and appalled at everything that i saw unfold this season i thought there was nothing that they could do that would shock and appall me turned out to be not true has it changed how you will interact with future crews absolutely yes i think things will change yeah kate you started a new life in new york i did it's great no i like it so much it's exciting wow this has been a really dramatic season this has been a dramatic reunion it's a dramatic evening will you all go out together tonight or will it be an integrated group courtney's shaking her head absolutely not courtney you don't think maybe you and brian won't have a nice don't be silly don't even finish that conversation i will not tolerate the way you've spoken to me through the line i told you and i'm sorry actually um well i want to thank the entire crew of the valor for a fantastic charter season i'm andy cohen good night everybody other than captain lee because we already know his answer do you think anyone else on this season would work with each other again i feel like the ladies would work with the ladies except for simone yeah i think ashton would probably end up working with the boys again yeah i think the boys might not hold a grudge as much right i guess we'll have to wait to find out because god willing there will be another season bon voyage below deck we'll be back with our regularly scheduled episode this thursday talk to you soon and remember watching bravo isn't a guilty pleasure it's self-care guys let's keep the conversation going we want to talk to you all week long not just thursdays you can find us on instagram at bravo daily dish and on twitter at bravo tv just don't forget to use the hashtag bravo daily dish or reach out to us personally i'm everywhere at megsagra and i'm everywhere at eric j mack that's e-r-i-k and if you're on facebook join the daily dish facebook group you can post about what you're watching your favorite shows who's your favorite housewife ask a question start some drama there's a lot of good stuff in there so check it out you can also learn more about the podcast at bravo tv.com bye guys bye