The benefits side of the engagement ledger: an audit of the S&ED

This week on the Sinica Podcast, Kaiser welcomes former Acting Assistant Secretary of State for East Asia and Pacific Affairs Susan Thornton to discuss a recently-published audit of the Strategic and Economic Dialogue (S&ED), the annual set of high-level meetings with Chinese officials convened during the Obama administration by the U.S. Departments of State and Treasury. The audit’s two lead authors, representing the two organizations behind the audit, National Committee on U.S. Foreign Policy and the American Friends Service Committee, also join the conversation. Rorry Daniels is Deputy Director at National Committee on American Foreign Policy’s Asia program, where she organizes research and Track II discussions on security issues and conflict mediation in the Asia-Pacific. Daniel Jasper is Asia Advocacy Coordinator for the American Friends Service Committee, where his work focuses on China and North Korea. The three make a strong case that, contrary to an emerging bipartisan consensus in the U.S., the policy of engagement actually bore substantial fruit.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.