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🔮 The best of my 2025 conversations: Kevin Kelly, Tyler Cowen, Steve Hsu, Dan Wang, Matthew Prince & others

from Exponential View by Azeem Azhar · host Azeem Azhar and Chantal Smith

This year, I recorded 30 conversations on AI, technology, geopolitics, and the economy.What follows is a 20-minute edit, a way in. If you only had 20 minutes to orient on key ideas that were top of mind in 2025 and will hold as we step into the new year, these are the ideas I’d start with:Listen on Apple Podcasts or SpotifyJump to the key ideasPart 1 - AI as a general purpose tech2:27: Why this matters3:06: Kevin Weil: The test for a startup’s longevity4:01: Matthew Prince: The “Socialist” pricing debate4:45: Tyler Cowen: This will stifle the AI boom7:42: Nicholas Thompson: The “NBA-ification” of journalism8:13: Kevin Kelly: From utopia to protopiaPart 2 - How work is changing10:13: An evolving labor market10:45: Steve Hsu: The future of education11:27: Thomas Dohmke: The inspectability turning point12:09: Ben Zweig: The new role for entry-level workers13:16: Ben Zweig: The eroding signal of higher educationPart 3 - The physical world, compute, and energy14:05: Setting the stakes14:51: Greg Jackson: “We’re half way across the road. We have to get across as fast as we can.”15:27: Greg Jackson: Building a “show, don’t tell” company16:12: Dan Wang: The physical reality of AIPart 4 - The changing US-China landscape16:57: A new era18:09: Dan Wang: The West’s hidden tech gap18:38: Jordan Schneider: The two types of accelerationism19:38: Jordan Schneider: What the US can learn from ChinaGo deeper into the full conversations* Kevin Weil - OpenAI CPO on what’s coming next in AI* Matthew Prince - Inside the collapse of the internet economy* Tyler Cowen - How AI will reorder economies, schools, and spirituality* Nick Thompson - AI and the future of media* Kevin Kelly - The handoff to “bots”* Steve Hsu - The difference between early and late AI adopters* Ben Zweig - Where did all the entry-level jobs go?* Thomas Dohmke - What AI means for developer salaries, SaaS, and more* Greg Jackson - The future of clean energy* Dan Wang - Why China builds while America debates* Jordan Schneider - Inside the US–China decoupling🔔 Subscribe on YouTube for every video, including the ones we don’t publish here. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.exponentialview.co/subscribe

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