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It'll really help us out and it's free. Yo, what's up? Welcome to Kind of Funny Gamescast for Friday, November 7, 2025. I'm on your host, Blessing, at the OA Junior.
Joining me is the McCoy Poppy. Tim, Mo, Mo, Yetties. Oh my god, two PS2 episodes in one week. Come on.
What a time to be alive. What a console. I'm so fucking excited for this one. We're not going to waste any time.
Also, a good week for the PlayStation 2, because obviously, we always talk about the PlayStation 2. We always talk about that 155 million unit soul, right? Maybe 160 depending on who sources your county, right? And by next year, they're going to find a couple million more to add.
But this week, Nintendo putting out their sales numbers. And they're inching closer to take it over, man. Where do they find the extra 5 million unit sales ever? PS2, because I'm convinced I'm with the conspiracy theories out there that they're doing that.
Just a switch doesn't catch them. I love it. I love it. Well, like, come on.
What a race. What a race. What a race. Who the goals consoles?
How much does the SNES say? Not that much. Not that much. No way.
Yeah, I should put a DVD player in it. You know? Come on. Get on it, Nintendo.
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But that's Super Nintendo, 49 million. Oh. Which puts it over the N64 at 33 million. Damn.
All right. Numbers are so small back. Exactly. It's crazy.
So Super Nintendo, 49 million Xbox One above that at 58. One surprising one for me. The PlayStation Portable at 80 million. Yeah, no, that sounds about right, right?
The PlayStation Portable sold 30 more million than the Super Nintendo. Yeah. The EOA had a moment, man. I mean, well, trust me.
I was the moment. I was the moment. I was the moment. I was the moment.
I was the moment. Yeah. Yeah. It's like Super Nintendo.
It's like Game's just someone we always talk about. Like, no, no trigger. That's the million sold. What are we talking about?
Games is getting more popular over time, more people are playing them in the handhelds. Like handhelds just sell. Not all. Not all of them.
Wait, what are you talking about? Oh, yeah, you're right. I forgot about that one. We're talking about the PlayStation, too.
We're talking about the PlayStation, too. Of course, we're doing the shit list that we teased last week. We got so carried away in conversation that we decided to punt it until today because we got to talk about it. The best PS2 games of all time.
This is a shit list episode. Back to Tim Getty's and Bear Courtney's on the ones and two's. We judge it for your amusement. This best PS2 Games list is from IGN.com.
It was put together by the IGN staff without. I'm sure you're just meeting with Simon Carty. The OG list was put out October 13, 2023. However, it was updated October 26, 2025.
I'm going to read from the first blurb they have here on IGN website where they say for the PS2's, 25th, anniversary last week, we're looking back at the games that made this console truly iconic. These are the games that push the technological and cultural boundaries of the era, becoming unforgettable experiences that still hold up today from toe taping jam sessions to city crossing crime epics these are the 25 best PS2 games now Tim so the first one the toe tap and what the tapping jam session the toe you know what they're talking about guitar girl guitar hero okay or okay yeah it was but it was only but it wasn't I know it's not what people think yeah I don't think guitar hero five years yeah guitar yeah I'm sorry you're just back all right let me write yeah right right you're right unless hold on to tapping jam says I mean is DDR DDR with anything like the hero no it must be guitar right like that's the only which one though they'll probably go to because one very much was the light guitar here is a perfect example of a franchise where the first one is definitively not the best yeah and it's one where it's it definitely felt like here's the proof of concept yeah because it was a lot of covers of songs exactly I remember it wasn't some 41's fat lip it was a different Canadian band covering some 41's fat lip you know yeah guitar hero to not on PS3 and Xbox 360 no three was the first one that kind of it was cross and I said as many times I'll say bye three is the best yes three is the best we was the first never soft guitar hero before that was harmonics I'm not a rock band but but I think for the sake of this list I won't be mad at it being to so is it on top of it but like from the years oh five to oh seven I have essentially a media blackout because that's where I moved to Nigeria for a couple years I went to boarding school didn't have TV in boarding school and so like I missed out on craze is like Ben 10 in Naruto Wow but also I got back to the US and I swear to God everybody had this mother fucking guitar in their homes I got back I got back to the west and everybody was into Ben 10 and are everybody was in a Ben 10 Naruto and everybody had guitar hero and I swear to God it was like a world of changed yeah it was like everything was different it felt like I'm king of the hill where the new season it felt like there's a good shirt everywhere oh my Lord are you to hell yeah okay well question I want to lead off with though is there a definitive number one on the best you games list yes yeah I was all three Wow right like I think Wow the top 25 from IGN that means a lot that means like there is so much conversation and like they need to make sure that this is a well thought out represented list like that like they can stand behind and that the majority of people can look at be like you're right and I'm not like there are probably a couple other games I will I will counter your measure so three with GTA either vice-ideurs and Andreas I don't I think that for as amazing as those games are I think this is a classic conundrum where because there are multiple ones and I don't think any of them are the definitive best one it would be San Andreas that will make the list here but I if you compare San Andreas and Metal Gear Solid 3 I think there's too many factors that go into giving the non to Metal Gear I go to Grand Theft Auto 5 I think that that has more factors that when you put that on the list compared to like a Last of Us or something I think I use a higher chance of GTA 5 beating a Last of Us than there is GTA 3 trilogy beating though how do you factor in another solid 2 and that's what I was gonna counter with both of you I think MGS 2 might be the number one no three's the favorite three's the favorite best and that's three's my favorite but I feel like I usually on the opposite end of the conversation where people usually prefer to here's my thing right I look at these four games MGS 3 GTS San Andreas Vice City and MGS 2 and based on both popularity but then also like critical I am like trying to be the not odd man out but like I'm in here looking at this is like what is the fucking one I can see any of these games being number one yeah but that's the thing I do right like undeniable that like that there's a tarnish on that but this is made in 2025 right up in 2025 with like the knowledge of how much they need going forward you can look back and be like oh riding wasn't that big of like a deal right and also MGS 2 ages like a fine wine every day a new line for that game yes play wise yes me plays no laughs we saw three ages like a fine wine gameplay wise and story wise actually you know why I'm sure MGS 3 and 2 probably have similar problems as far as like is when I think of the story wise of MGS 3 I think about how much sexualization that's a certain character that's that's that is a fact that's true for all of them yeah but but here's the thing about GTA is that GTA is bad all around like in terms of sorry middle-time to another oh I see I see that's here but all right so obviously is are we missing one I think shot of the Colossus is the other one that's in high contention but that's not number one I think that's easily top five I could if they want to make a statement and talk about like it being the clear video games are art game for the PS2 right like it could be but I would be surprised if it was a role so I want people to chat in with what your definitive number one is and why all throughout there is there are possibility of Kingdom Hearts 2 I was on the list for sure real quick one for you bless predator badlands which I'm seeing again tonight because I enjoyed it so much in 40 X that's about the rock my fucking world when we did in review I was saying that like there were elements of shot a surprising amount of shot of the Colossus oh predator badlands and everyone was like what the fuck you talked like that can't give you shit for it and then I saw interview with Dan Traktenberg what they were being asked I think by IGN what were inspirations for the movie and he said shadow the clock no way and I feel very smart well now I got to watch this movie you're vindicated all right so let's let's throw some more games out forget number one even though I think we're forgetting things I feel like the PS2 has oh PS2 is insane yeah got a war to got a war to you write it down by the city 10 I'll see 10 and 12 and 12 and 12 turn out three oh Tony Hawk 3 I'm gonna say burn out three as well Devil May Cry 3 PMC 3 persona 4 yeah it should be 3 NBA Street volume 3 or volume 2 yeah I'll think about that again last night about how like they just turned on out of nowhere for NBA Street volume 2 specifically yeah like they made it be a street and be like oh that's fun they made NBA Street volume 2 is one of the greatest games of all time I did three and over and they just go got the song like something about to just fucking put it on another level from video games fuck it ascended for one development cycle all right let's grant us more three aspect cool three a spec um what other rock star games are there I know there's a lot of bully there's bull bully could make it I think bully makes it I think that's lower yeah it's a fair amount of games if if they're fucking real over yet I do you know warriors make a list if you're some real ones it's not gonna make a list yeah they're real one though oh that's a sex tricky well sex tricky yeah that's the point where do we stand on Resident Evil 4 it's a game cue game yeah it's a game cue game if Resident Evil 4 is on this list I'm mad they're not real ones yeah but like the Warriors is on the down and are you for some years later yeah but like you're made it's the top 25 would you put GTA Vice City on the best Xbox games list and we did a come to Xbox yes probably the same situation I don't like that and I get it sure fine but like we all understand the soul of this list yeah that's bullshit fair enough people chatting sound hill to yes yeah that's alright we got to talk about the mascot platformers because oh yeah no less than 15 of them on the console which ones make the which Ratchet and Clank euphemism Ratchet Clank just but Ratchet Clank reverse cowgirl which one are they gonna go that's fucking hilarious that's all your name in those games back there right up your arsenal I think doing commandos the fan favorite I could be wrong about that because I often get them confused as well but I think Ratchet Clanko and commandos the one on the list for PS2 going commando thinking about it just be from my naughty dog video earlier this year I have a good feeling Jack 2 will be on this list it should not be on this list is definitively a bad game especially if you're updating this list for 2025 it should be Jack 3 slide yeah I can see a slide we need somebody at this office to play slide like be that but we maybe Mike love to do that for the audience because I never slide comes up we're all like I yeah um yeah I don't know about the Jackson and slides like that's about the second that's isn't that Xbox exclusive was that on PS2 it came to PS2 but I don't know if that was well that was a weird one right where wasn't Xbox opposed to publish that but then they fell through they ended up being someone else you published it let's see so many games on this platform yeah I came to PS2 only it was only two months later okay so okay that's a tough one if you're one you put it on the list I don't care where but you get on the list I don't think it's a list no like nothing even about the exclusivity stuff all there just I don't think it makes it there we know we've written down 21 games already yeah since hit and run oh I think that's one I like almost makes a list but doesn't but that's I think about the ps2 is that there's so many of those that like it could happen because that is the one in terms of like known IP yeah yeah represent the that yeah I write down I mean I did we say I mean to yeah that's yeah it's good now yeah I'm gonna write down part of me to I would love the times what is to make it but I don't know that it does no what about me nightclub no need for speed underground yeah need for speed underground to probably be to the first one that went open world we feel any bounce already wrote out yeah I'm on there 100% I'm on already done again so calm's not making the list fighting games they just weren't really any like stand out on PS2 yeah what have comments and K2 three fighter third strike but I feel like I was a piece to was I thought it was yeah was it not I don't think so maybe not I was that was a dream guest I guess either way I don't associate with the yes yeah oh sorry front to yeah I was thinking about that I mean I just I don't know that makes it over here and run yeah I think I think that has to be on the list but he says almost Cal comms and stand out every C2 was on PlayStation 2 but I think of that I know we're thinking gave you the link but I'll talk about I got a Chi yeah I don't know if other people do but you know what I'm not that if you're going fighting in representation yeah all right all right I mean you're not gonna take any of the more comments a weird one but one that had weirdly has had this big legacy build up over the last almost decade now beyond good evil if you're talking about yeah kind of like not like super big kind of Zelda 3D platformer action fucking puzzler game right but the people who played that really fuck with it yeah so I could see someone fighting for to get on the list what's the the football game that people say is like the best one all time that no for no the 2k one 2k five yeah was that yes to get I mean is that another that's not what I associate with PS5 but I also not a sports guy that so because I could either that are mad no for mad no for I can see on the list because that is the madden of that generation and it was like PS2 specifically yeah yeah yeah 2k5 came to PS2 but I don't know what the association is either one I'm gonna write down both next to each other one of them titty mmm prints a person yeah sense of time I think so same time okay with that I'm looking at a super chat here from cozybears saying Jack one I'd say is more likely than two and three and I agree with that because I think if you're just making the top list like it does get kind of weird of like the specifics and I know you know better the reason I would bring up Jack two is when people think about the Jack series they think about the open world or like city GTA vibe of that series that was only in two and three people don't think about the 3D platformer collectathon that the first one was right I disagree I think I think the opposite of that I think you're in the minority on that one honestly I think they think about the GTA Open Timeoffs it's a negative no they think about it as a positive because that was like I think you've heard me too much talk about like maybe back on it because like people look back on that game and I was one of them for the longest time and you know Janik Garcia was one of them for the longest time of like when you think about that GTA sandbox city being able to play that kind of game as a kid who maybe you weren't allowed to play GTA like that was home for you right even city was like the coolest thing ever how many people have actually gone back to Jack two since then and just think about it as like oh that's an iconic one of the best games because it was this like QC 3D platformer or whatever but like Nickelodeon kids vibe that got edgy you know so that's all Jack one we'll see I'm putting money on Jack one running through some super chats here nor Norman writes and says Grantra's mo 3 which we got on the list remember I asked you guys writing with what your possible number one is very next says my personal number one is Kingdom Hearts one it was the game that made me fall in love with gaming and the first game to make me cry we get most looking at here do you think we get one into I don't think we will just because of 25 is a lot but not too much to represent all the things I think one and two deserve to be on the list but I also understand they're not doing that and to definitively is better than one do they sink into the same simple and clean number two no my pick is what they got the sanctuary it's like sanctuary come on get fuck out of here right yeah brings up face my fears a really good one got face my fears I love that's a lot oh commie oh 100% yeah that's not a lock yeah I walk we got 32 games written down here Jesus some more super chats for you picked joysticks or sorry pickle joysticks says it's my first console so played IP slash franchise FIFA games yeah I missed out on the best games of the time but the memories that stand out are playing times leaders with my dad and playing double seven night fire with my childhood as friend yeah I love my Jonathan media says it's gotta be so calm us and you see was the number one right remember the mic you had remember we all agree JK love y'all yeah so comes not make it a list that's funny though yelcing says you guys are fucking cowards play Sly 3 on stream and join the Sly supremacy band wagon type and both of those says let me let me on a show and give respect to Sly Cooper my boys go to slide to a door 3 are likely to be top 25 I imagine all of these are just nanobiologists like stock accounts oh yeah I honestly like Sly is just a blind spot for me same I'm not talking shit about it all just it's just not my thing I just I'm I think just because I haven't played it listen not next year but you're after 27 the year sly yeah alright 27 20-20 slide and no somebody workshopped it King tote says my personal favorites are San Andreas MGS 3 FF10 on a mousia to be mentioned on a mousia no and I'm not sure I'm gonna make the list they continue with Kingdom Hearts DMC 3 times leaders to dark chronicle dragon quest 8 the Warriors man hello the Warriors black I remember black oh well twisted metal black yeah you think that makes the list people need to remember the twisted metal black is actually a great game that was revered at the time and it's like you could joke about to a black was different very every gameplay of twisted metal black that game is this on our scene definitely before yeah you're gonna like look on the YouTube search page and maybe like halfway watch yeah like that red bar the bottom is gonna be all the way twisted metal black is is a top 25 PlayStation 2 like no jokes no bits or anything like this is like the definitive car combat game in 2028 I want to make that the year where we all go back and play through all the twisted metals alright Sony market down we don't need to do that just like you got to stop signing yourself up for this we're gonna lay all the twisted metals we're gonna call it 2028 colon the year of the twisted metal of honor twisted metal of honor years and you're also signed up to do yakuza so I don't remember saying that I don't remember I need the proof well I'm not going to remember saying this let's see here parks be right and it says Lord of the Rings return of the king okay I mean that's another one of them ones that's like games phenomenal doesn't make the list I don't know all Vero Cn says gotta have sweet and five grandi a 3% of foreign Final Fantasy 10 yeah a lot of those are big blind spots for me as well but fuck I'm just I just want to throw up the I know I already talked about first cater three but I feel like fuck represents more of the the air of the room there's too many Tony I could see multiple I mean if there is multiple one would be pro scare one would be talking it would be three and Doug one I don't think we said gotta for a chance that's got to work oh we did say got work to all right we've written down a lot of games here I think it's time that we jump into the list but before we do I think it's time that you go to patreon.com slash kind of funny and youtube.com slash kind of funny games we can go and get the kind of funny membership which allows you to get shows ad free and speaking of ads let us tell you about our sponsors 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Silent Hill 2 bully Ratchet and Clango and Commando Jack Sly 2 Simpson's hit and run Spider-Man 2 Times Blithers Need for Speed Underground 2 Burnout 3 SoCalibur 2 Star Wars Battlefront 2 Yonge and Evil Madden 04 slash 2k5 stands of time Guitar Hero and Ocami that's 32 games we have written down to the National Guitar Hero 2 Guitar Hero 2 Guitar Hero is the one of the first ones we talked about I thought oh I see Guitar Hero 2 I'm not correct myself what do you think is gonna be our success rate how many misses are you giving us here I mean let's get spicy and say five oh I don't go lower I think we're going to I think there's gonna be only three games that's great I think only three games on the list you know too many of the JRPGs and stuff that we just aren't talking about they're going to have I'm sticking to three oh I'm sticking to three oh we have also listed 32 games so yeah that's true I mean I'm going five and I don't know that we make it all right I IGN's best PS2 games of all time coming in at number 25 we got Guitar Hero 2 we're one and one so far yeah coming in at number 24 we got wow I'm into I'm having the list like I expected it higher I mean I think maybe that's that's where we were at as kids playing Spider-Man 2 because by me too felt like a revolutionary experience to me and I think that was also be playing I played Spider-Man on PS1 I played Spider-Man 1 on PS2 believe it or not I was my first two games yeah that was a game that I played at Freddy's house who lived next door yet Xbox shot at my guy Freddy and like that I think was where my obsession was part of me and really was the definition of sauceless yeah but I was my first introduction and I didn't watch the movie yet wow yeah I was just playing the Spider-Man movie video game so like I got so I got so I watch the movie I was like where's Craven we were craving the game that's so funny um I remember then moving on to get in the game playing through the game in my my sisters went to watch the movie but I didn't go with it so they came back and I was asking questions and I was like was black cat in it and they're like who's black cat I'm like asking all these things shout out to Spider-Man to the video game coming in at 23 so caliber 2 okay all right okay so far we're killing it yeah and number you're right and number 22 we got persona 3 wow you know what I appreciate on the list that tells me persona 4 is gonna be really hot oh see I was going with we're not getting persona 4 I think we get both and I hope we get both coming in and number 21 Kingdom Hearts 2 whoa see this feels low to me that's lower than I would have expected it for sure I would have thought top 15 yeah and number 20 we got Times winners I love it we're gonna be tipper right there what's up all right how are you feeling about the list so far I love it solid I think this is very solid so far it's one of those you know you have like your specific vision of what the ps2 is and so many of these games that we've listed already feel like what I grew up with so it's one of those like damn what else is this list yeah we got 19 games left and we've not missed one right no did we write down some winners no you right all right we did not write times winners and oh you said timeslitters no but we it's like and I mentioned yeah we went for so we missed okay these calories because we can all of them we could have just written everything down and we would have gotten everything right you know what they're all right we missed you and number 19 ratchet and clank up your arsenal got it wrong which one did we say going commando I knew it I was I don't know it was one of these two knowing how people talk I think even though I not play other I think I would have said up your arsenal because I hear that more often we got it in 2029 we gotta go back and play all the ratchet games cuz I would love to play up your arsenal and go in commando and just but stuff like I'll play all these games but it was the portal one coming in at number 18 we got Jack to yet ready a walking nails I was saying about doing a piece of that but goddamn it I yeah I can't believe the Jack to it was the one that made it over Jack one I also can't believe that Jack to subtitles renegade you know I don't remember this yeah it's weird there's like renegade version I don't know if this was a real I don't fucking know that way I don't know a unique entry in the series Jack to reinvent itself yeah I mean it seems like I'm just talking about Jack yeah but like a very roasted glasses version of what they think Jack to is boss says renegade is a subtitle in power regions mmm not a you know again more proof that Simon Cardi is the one that made it really funny it should be Jack three and it did all this stuff but actually good number 17 we got oh I mean I mean eco no I mean I thought I didn't think it made the list for sure you go put shot of the classes you don't put you know you put both oh man that's crazy dude we gotta just be real it goes fine no I love that crazy I love you go if that's crazy ego is fucking revolutionary eco you don't get fucking journey you don't get I don't know why the pathless is the next thing that came up but that's true you don't get that you don't even hear don't even get elven ring without eco eco info so fucking much shadow the Colossus did but you don't get shadow class okay great cool we're talking about best games oh I love eco by the way I love you go more than most people I'm just being real about the quality of the video game oh eco so good quality of you go to quality of shadow night and day okay this is what I want to do 20 30 me and you are going to go fucking shadow losses we're playing eco and we're playing last guardian and I'm sure I'm sure that's when fucking project losses or not colossus mex whatever the fuck is called the next game is coming out we're gonna play through it all all right mark your counters don't damn I didn't guess this one number 16 we got Tony Hawks bro skater 3 oh yeah also what's the count for misses is it three or four see one we got one with eco two oh up your arsenal four damn damn look at the naughty dog logo in the jack 2 screenshot that's sick as hell oh that's really they like hide it throughout the posters billboards right always fun coming in at number 15 we got burnout three takedown and I'm sorry not high enough yeah I mean Tony hot three being that low isn't saying because I don't expect dog to be higher on this list yeah like that's wild I think that's 10 from my gym sure yeah that's true yeah honestly when we're talking about like the shit list right from here on I'm only expecting 10 to put in you're putting burnout three and Tony hot pool skater 15 and 16 and eco number 17 I want 10 from now on that's where I'm at coming in number 14 we got Prince of Persia same time I respect it like that real good and number 13 we got Devil McRigh 3 Dante's awakening I could make an argument this is too low but this is like the standard for character action this is the one it took everything and elevated it and since this has happened they haven't ever reached this peak and number 12 we got catamari dawgacy yeah didn't think of this one yeah didn't think of it I mean I feel like I feel about this the way you feel like you go well my respect it I have love for kind of item odyssey I think it's lower on the list I think it's in the 20s if that I agree a superchargers came in I just I just stand up for myself here Riley saying no I come into him talking some shadow the Colossus trash I'm upset oh no no no no no no he was nothing but praise for shot of the clock yeah he wouldn't do that and number 11 we got bully wow I think that he say it's not gonna be on the list or parents said it will be on the list I wanted it to be on the list but I wasn't confident we did write it down okay what kind of yeah that's awesome I didn't think that they would be they would be real ones but they are and it being a surprise I'm surprised yeah if it was gonna be on the list I was gonna guess it would be low yeah me too but it's still the best rockstar game and number 10 we got God of War two I'm not 10 God of War two is number 10 I want bangers only from here on out I mean that's where I want bangers only to me this is like a this is top five that's fucking nuts I mean is it though because you look at the list that we have right and like fucking Milligar saw three still there the two GTA's that we were talking about I still there we even mentioned you three yes cuz it's not a list I mean is it not though no it's not GT3 changed everything I just I'm just saying though I've worked you do travel back in time to win a fight that you originally lost at the beginning of the story and it's sick as hell and you see Kratos like after he kills like this really big titty lady who's like one of the fates he like pulls down a thing and it like you see all of these big moments of his life and it's like oh man you could have gone back even further and fix your life but he's like no I gotta kill Zeus I always describe this lady you know I do it's my there's no if you saw it if I brought it up you understand okay talk about a personality you know it's the face their personality was like fuck you Kratos you know the you know what fair fair yeah coming in at number nine Oh Tommy there all right yep all right coming in I can't believe we're getting a sequel yeah that's still insane I was announced we'll see if we get it at number eight Grand Turismo 3 Ace back there you go how do we feel about this I mean it's it seems low but again why do we have a head are you saying low I see I was thinking hi dude GT this was a phenomenon like even if you don't give a fuck about racing games and if you don't give a fuck about simulator racing games yeah you played this game I am that guy this game made me play it I feel like this was really like GT before like people really mess with but I feel like this one in particular is what made it what people think about today as it being a premier PlayStation like series I don't disagree with what you're saying but I do still want to get the shot at Grand Turismo 2 oh yeah it did they already had what you just said there but this was the this to me Grand Turismo 3 is the first time we ever in the history of video games we're looking forward to a next gen game like there was that generation after but this was the first time people thought about it in that way Fair enough though my my simulation racing game for that era this is again the Freddy's house thing right he had the dual disc with a jet set radio feature and some other racing game yeah with the project awesome yeah that was the one that's when I played coming in number seven I was packing with Xbox that's crazy fall of 18 number seven incredibly low but I mean we got six game we're not gonna metal your solid or a GTA what the end we're talking about those are probably gonna be like very very hot you know what I'm saying this now this fuck it I'm feeling spicy metal yourself three number one shot of the class number two if he goes on this list they clearly get it yeah I fuck with that I'm involved in this should have been over GTA San Andreas yeah not you really yeah yeah I'm saying that it's not a very serious Sunday's top five and I understand the bottom y'all yeah I understand and number six sign Hill to hell yeah all right top five do we want to guess any orders here I mean Tim kind of just did I guess for me because you're gonna have Vice City on here all right you're not you have to you have to you have to you have to so I'm gonna say oh I don't think I would love to have a class of number one I don't think number one it's number two fuck dude I'm gonna say I'm gonna work in was at the start of this I'm gonna see Melia saw three number one shot Colossus number two yeah yeah Vice City number four just to it's like that's the vice city and just to my gut saying to not on the list I'm missing anything we've not seen them we've not seen no no we've not seen a three volume to write oh and these people are you never by five dude number five yeah I think number five would be sorry what sorry sorry if they don't put vice city if they don't put one of those like if they only get one GTA in top five and they have NBA Street volume two I'm 1000 k with it I'll put that let's have this conversation if only one game we know if we're saying three and San Andreas or another South Korean San Andreas are on list if there's only one spot or a duplicate franchise would it be MGS to or vice city I'll be an MGS to know really I lean on MGS to because my guess is number five MGS three number four persona four number three shadow the Colossus number two San Andreas number one middle-year solitude I somebody who loves San Andreas more than Vice City like easily more than Vice City Vice City I think is one of those ones where I think it's just a popular pick yeah I think it's mine I think Vice City is anonymous with the PS2 I think it's less so between like Vice Vice City versus MGS to I think I'm just doing being contentious San Andreas I think Vice City is a lock on this list I convince myself MGS two and three are here shy the Colossus San Andreas it's just one one missing for me and eight three volume two man persona four yeah the persona four is the one thing that I just don't know about like I just don't know and I associate that with Vida so much more than PS2 yeah and they put three there so I don't think person is on the list but now there's another wrinkle here that I think is gonna piss you the fuck off Resident Evil 4 yeah it would piss me the fuck off but with what this list is and like seeing with things are ranked if okay Final Fantasy 10 is that low and these things are that low because they're including Resident Evil 4 I'm not mad we are talking about which really ago coming in at number five we got a million dollars to sons of Liberty I like it yeah I get Tim Sniped it yeah and number four we got resident evil yeah four yeah that's crazy we got the list but what's the ordering of the next three is quite a little bit of a solid three shot of the Colossus San Andreas all right coming in at number three we got shadow of the Colossus ah fuck yeah the top three top three I'll take top three coming in number two we got Mel your solid wait wait wait we got you called it wait what's left it's only San Andreas it's only gonna be just a city it's gonna be Santa it's gonna be Vice City if this is San Andreas then whoever made this list come find me we're gonna make out my place and like we play some ratchet clank we can play right if you know what I mean Simon card oh if the energy is number one I made this list I blacked out I made this list unless I need to let you know this is the funniest you've ever been the narrative throughout this episode that got brought it all back together it's so good I was incorrect I'm sorry teller blud I appreciate it holy shit all right coming in I don't know if I can take this dude coming in at number one they fucking did it GTA San Andreas they got this shit right two thumbs up for me Simon cardi door a little yeah great list we're talking about a console that like I don't think that there is a definitive 25 because there's a definitive 50 yes so many great games and like I do think that there's not that many best games of all time that many mean 25 right but there clearly is a 10 that are like yeah the top 10 pretty goddamn obvious man I'm so I guess they explained it here right they have a blurby that says why only one GTA it's possible to overstate how important GTA was a ps2 the trilogy the 3d era account for a three out of six of the ps2's best-selling games and length is with the x-s3 deals met Sony was the place experience the seminal worlds see yeah yeah yeah only San Andreas owns earns a spot why simply play is the whole package we're melting solid two in three each provide unique experiences each new GTA builds directly atop the successes of its previous entries you agree with that yeah yeah yeah I guess I think I guess what I think of I say I think of the vibe and I think of my I mean you're right you're right you know what I feel like Vice City deserves like the acknowledgement by cities vibes it's fucking vibes like no like real topic I don't think a video game has ever nailed what the Genes Aquat that by city hasn't that way and so yeah it'd be unless it would make sense but it's not here and you know what I'm okay with better game like great whatever it's a lot it is and it's a little bit I don't agree with that but damn nail it this is no one the history volume to know to know fuck yeah but also give it to thumbs up like yeah for sure no I guess we volume to a little bit of greed is in my heart I'm yeah it's a crime for sure but there was a battle for a two yeah that's tough yeah that's tough you know what some card you're not invited actually but we're so cool I still like you a lot be friends thank you so much for joining on this episode of games castle yeah we have a couple super I want to get to real quick yeah percent y'all skip my birthday tax on games daily thanks for nothing Greg also got married two weeks ago got an awesome Pokemon related story from the wedding party I'll show it on kind of funny reddit Tim's gonna love it I was the wedding and happy birthday on yeah that's one I get to 666 yeah Norman also said you gave three was the second best only guest to game above Vice City is that true to be three so more than Vice City right yeah I guess yeah that was the one that everyone got obsessed with it yeah my city's got what a what a time back to back bangers back to back we also got back to back bangers because after this is an episode of game showdown you're not gonna want to miss but remember this has been kind of a games cast for each and every day we get to get the 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