The between series: the 3am White House epiphany - a story about climate, burnout, and the uncomfortable truth that fear might not be what moves us after all

"Because really—why would anyone fight for a future they believe is already lost?”Welcome to The Between Series—a series where I take you into moments from my life that shaped the themes we explore in the main episodes, and share the meaning I’m still trying to make from them. These are the in-between chapters that echo through everything you hear on the show.In this episode, I share a turning point that reshaped how I think about climate strategy, public engagement, and the emotional root of action. It’s about burnout, misplaced narratives, and the question that kept following me: How do you get people to act?This one’s for anyone who’s felt like the strategy isn’t landing—or like the real work starts with something more human than persuasion.There’s more ahead. There always is. — Molly—🧠 Get the takeaways straight to your inbox. My newsletter What I Wish I Knew shares all the research + tools I use in my own life. Sign up at mollykawahata.com/join—🔗 View the full show notes at mollykawahata.com/podcast🎥 Video episodes available on YouTube—🔗 Follow for more:YouTube | Instagram | TikTok | LinkedInSend us Fan Mail