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EPISODE · Jun 13, 2026 · 48 MIN

The Bitcoin Strategy Rich Families Are Quietly Using

from The Mark Moss Show · host Mark Moss and Jake Roque

Meanwhile founder Zac Townsend joins Jake Roque to explain why he believes Bitcoin is becoming the foundation of a new financial system and why life insurance may be one of Bitcoin's most powerful use cases. They discuss Bitcoin-backed life insurance, tax advantages, estate planning, institutional adoption, the future of the dollar, Sam Altman's investment in Meanwhile, and why Bitcoin companies must solve real customer problems to succeed. TIMESTAMPS:0:00 - Episode Preview0:58 - Introducing Zac Townsend1:30 - Iran Conflict and Bitcoin3:39 - Bitcoin Life Insurance6:02 - Tax Benefits of Life Insurance8:10 - Where Does the Yield Come From?10:23 - An Unlikely Crossover15:11 - Fiat Always Goes to Zero17:46 - Bitcoin-Based Alternatives to Legacy Systems20:00 - Chief Data Officer of California23:59 - Waste, Fraud, and California Government27:58 - What Is Y Combinator?31:56 - Why Did Sam Altman Invest in Meanwhile?36:53 - Proof of Reserves?38:56 - Advice for Bitcoin Founders42:28 - What's Next for Bitcoin?46:29 - How to Connect with Zac FOLLOW Zac:Meanwhile Website: https://meanwhile.bm/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zactownsendPersonal X: https://x.com/ztownsendMeanwhile X: https://x.com/meanwhile FOLLOW Jake:X: https://x.com/jakeroque_IG: https://www.instagram.com/jakeroque/ FOLLOW Market Disruptors:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marketdisruptorspodcast/X: https://x.com/MDisruptors SIGN UP FOR THE FREE MARKET DISRUPTORS WEEKLY NEWSLETTER:https://link.1markmoss.com/FGLRv BOOK A CALL TO WORK WITH OUR TEAM TO MAKE A PERSONALIZED WEALTH PLAN:https://link.1markmoss.com/249zZ 🔴(BEWARE OF SCAMMERS)🔴They are impersonating me in the comments. My comments have a "checkmark" so look for that. Please beware, I will never message you asking you to give me money or to talk to me on WhatsApp. Disclaimer: I am NOT a financial advisor, and nothing I say is meant to be a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instrument. I will NEVER ask you to send me money to trade or invest for you. Please report any suspicious emails or fake social media profiles claiming to be me. Don't invest money you can't afford to lose. There are no guarantees or certainties in trading or investing. My videos may contain affiliate links or sponsorship to products I believe will add value to your life and help you. In some cases, I may receive payment or other consideration from the companies mentioned in the videos. No matter what I or anyone else says, it’s important to do your own research before making a financial decision. SEE FULL DISCLAIMER HERE: https://go.1markmoss.com/disclaimerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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