"The Body Does NOT Keep The Score" with Dr. Mike Scheeringa

In recent years, a surge of work—from best-selling books like The Body Keeps the Score to documentaries, podcasts, and professional trainings— have shaped how the public and mental health profession think about trauma and the body. But what if the science isn’t as settled as we think?In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Michael Scheeringa, a leading child and adolescent trauma psychiatrist, researcher, and author of The Body Does Not Keep The Score & The Trouble with Trauma. Dr. Scheeringa challenges popular narratives around “toxic stress,” trauma-induced brain damage, and trauma-informed ideology, bringing a data-driven perspective to one of the most emotionally charged topics in mental health.We explore:The science (and limits) behind trauma and brain researchWhy the diathesis-stress model might explain PTSD better than the “toxic stress” storyThe role of predisposition vs. protective factors in trauma recoveryWhether popular trauma frameworks are shaped more by politics than by evidenceWhether you’re a clinician or curious listener, this conversation will challenge you, like it did us, to think more critically about trauma science.Guest BioDr. Michael S. Scheeringa, M.D. is a retired child and adolescent psychiatrist, former Professor and Vice Chair at Tulane University School of Medicine, and a leading researcher in the field of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Over his nearly three-decade career, he has served as principal investigator on more than 15 federally funded studies, authored over 90 peer-reviewed articles, and written several books, including The Trouble with Trauma and Treating PTSD in Preschoolers. Dr Scheeringa's research informed the DSM-5 criteria for PTSD in young children.Are you a therapist or clergy? Upgrade your toolkit and earn 3.5 CE hours with our $99 course on providing ⁠ethical faith-informed therapy with Christian couples.